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Printablevainandy said: No it's not as poppish as some of her later stuff but it definately sounds like it was recorded with the intention of crossing over (which totally turns me off). Yeah, most R&B songs that become pop hits usually started out on R&B radio and become a hit on there first. However, I saw a documentary on her on one of the channels, maybe the E Channel, that her producers, record label or someone told her when she was recording her first album...."Tone it down Whitney. You're sounding too black. You want a big hit don't you?". It's very clear that she was more concerned with doing whatever it took to get a crossover hit, than having the guts to stand up to these people. If someone calls theirself making R&B music, they need to make the strongest and best R&B songs they possibly can. If the pop audience just happens to like it...fine, but if they don't...fuck 'em. Two words: Clive Davis! This man wanted to turn Whitney into his very own Diana Ross. But he ended up turning her into a black Valley Girl!!! 
Clive even made photographers redo the album covers more than once because he didn't want Whitney to end up looking "too ethnic". In other words, Whitney image needed to be safe enough to have black & white people buying her albums. I've seen this story on The E Network & VH-1 Behind The Music. After watching THAT segment, I started to lose some respect of Clive Davis as a business man.  | |
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Which one is the one where is says mamma say, I mean, Jambo, I mean... What does he say? | |
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I think that Eddie Murphy's "My Girl Likes To Party All The Time" makes "Dancing On The Ceiling" look like a masterpiece. Wow, that song was awful. Prince Rogers Nelson
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estelle81 said: I think that Eddie Murphy's "My Girl Likes To Party All The Time" makes "Dancing On The Ceiling" look like a masterpiece. Wow, that song was awful.
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FuNkeNsteiN said: estelle81 said: I think that Eddie Murphy's "My Girl Likes To Party All The Time" makes "Dancing On The Ceiling" look like a masterpiece. Wow, that song was awful.
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estelle81 said: I think that Eddie Murphy's "My Girl Likes To Party All The Time" makes "Dancing On The Ceiling" look like a masterpiece. Wow, that song was awful.
"Party All The Time" is cheesy but fun."Dancing On The Ceiling" is just cheesy | |
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TonyVanDam said: vainandy said: No it's not as poppish as some of her later stuff but it definately sounds like it was recorded with the intention of crossing over (which totally turns me off). Yeah, most R&B songs that become pop hits usually started out on R&B radio and become a hit on there first. However, I saw a documentary on her on one of the channels, maybe the E Channel, that her producers, record label or someone told her when she was recording her first album...."Tone it down Whitney. You're sounding too black. You want a big hit don't you?". It's very clear that she was more concerned with doing whatever it took to get a crossover hit, than having the guts to stand up to these people. If someone calls theirself making R&B music, they need to make the strongest and best R&B songs they possibly can. If the pop audience just happens to like it...fine, but if they don't...fuck 'em. Two words: Clive Davis! This man wanted to turn Whitney into his very own Diana Ross. But he ended up turning her into a black Valley Girl!!!
Clive even made photographers redo the album covers more than once because he didn't want Whitney to end up looking "too ethnic". In other words, Whitney image needed to be safe enough to have black & white people buying her albums. I've seen this story on The E Network & VH-1 Behind The Music. After watching THAT segment, I started to lose some respect of Clive Davis as a business man. I agree.Clive Davis really annoys me.All he cares about is selling tons of records,no matter how much the music has to be "watered down". | |
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sextonseven said: vainandy said: "Stuck On You" was a horrible one!
That was the single that the country stations began playing. No wonder you hate it. Exactly. I've always hated country. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TonyVanDam said: vainandy said: No it's not as poppish as some of her later stuff but it definately sounds like it was recorded with the intention of crossing over (which totally turns me off). Yeah, most R&B songs that become pop hits usually started out on R&B radio and become a hit on there first. However, I saw a documentary on her on one of the channels, maybe the E Channel, that her producers, record label or someone told her when she was recording her first album...."Tone it down Whitney. You're sounding too black. You want a big hit don't you?". It's very clear that she was more concerned with doing whatever it took to get a crossover hit, than having the guts to stand up to these people. If someone calls theirself making R&B music, they need to make the strongest and best R&B songs they possibly can. If the pop audience just happens to like it...fine, but if they don't...fuck 'em. Two words: Clive Davis! This man wanted to turn Whitney into his very own Diana Ross. But he ended up turning her into a black Valley Girl!!!
Clive even made photographers redo the album covers more than once because he didn't want Whitney to end up looking "too ethnic". In other words, Whitney image needed to be safe enough to have black & white people buying her albums. I've seen this story on The E Network & VH-1 Behind The Music. After watching THAT segment, I started to lose some respect of Clive Davis as a business man. I've seen pictures of him. He's an old white man that looks like he grew up in the days before the rock and roll era. He looks like one of those stuffy people that would have opposed rock and roll in it's early days. The type of person that doesn't need to be anywhere near the music business.
I didn't really see him trying to turn her into a black valley girl. The impression I got from her image at the time, was that she was a black All-American, apple pie eating, cheerleader, squeaky clean, boring, book reading, chess playing, football captain dating "girl next door" that lived in a house with a white picket fence and drove a station wagon. The kind you could not only take home to meet your mother but also your grandmother. Actually, when she first came out, I didn't call her "Shitney", I called her "Whiteny". . . [Edited 12/8/06 6:54am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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'What a feeling/when you're dancing on the Sea Link' | |
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Never liked Lionel or the Commodores.
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Actually, when she first came out, I didn't call her "Shitney", I called her "Whiteny".
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Adisa said: Never liked The Commodores
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