jayaredee said:

Rhythm Nation does not sample an entire song. The songs sound nothing like the originals. You want an example of a POOR sample, and one very comparable to the stuff on this record, head on over to the ALL FOR YOU album

When I first heard 'Get Together', I immediately thought of 'Falling' from Kylie's 'Kylie Minogue' album.

They sound great when played one after the other, by the way. Strange that Kylie's (PSB produced) song is eleven years older but sounds just as fresh.

Justin1972UK said:

Get Together sounds to me like she was trying to do Holiday, Pt. 2. Thankfully, I LOVE Holiday!

And Falling is a great track! Very sleek and polished; I can see the comparisons.
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umm i'm not certain the thread statement is true.

what we have is two artists who are targeting the same core audience, therefore making similar sounding albums.

who does it better? i can't really say.

Both are strong women who are geniuses in the postmodern world. Confessions is more of New Madonna trying to rip off Old Madonna. In away repeating and reinventing her first album.

Kylie's post PWL work is Kylie trying to find herself. KM94 was a great start and IP or KM98 was amazing and taught her lots of lessons. LY is great but pretty all over the board, and Fever is a gem. BL is at best an album of great singles with lots of filler. You could almost tell that Kylie's heart wasn't in it in my opinion. She probably wanted some time off, but the record label pushed for more. I'm hoping her next one will be great.

The are both great and i love them both. i do Madonna is a bit better because she is more willing to take a stand. but for mindless pop Kylie is on top too.

ehuffnsd said:

I always love your analyses

Ellie said:

I'd put Fever as the best Kylie album, and better than anything Madonna has done since Ray of Light.

I'd rank Madonna and Kylie's albums collectively this way:

1. Like a Prayer
2. Ray of Light
3. Fever
4. Madonna
5. Body Language
6. Impossible Princess
7. Confessions on a Dancefloor
8. American Life
9. Erotica
10. Light Years
11. Rhythm of Love
12. Bedtime Stories
13. True Blue
14. Kylie Minogue
15. Like a Virgin
16. Music
17. I'm Breathless
18. Evita
19. Enjoy Yourself
20. Kylie
21. Let's Get to It

VoicesCarry said:

thanks

Moonbeam said:

Ok, I'm going to do a ranking, too. But I will not include anything prior to 1994 for Kylie, since shit is nasty!

1. Like A Prayer
2. Bedtime Stories
3. Erotica
4. Madonna
5. Impossible Princess
6. Ray Of Light
7 Kylie Minogue
8. Body Language
9. Fever
10. True Blue
11. American Life
12. Music
13. Light Years
14. Like A Virgin
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infinity COAD
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Moonbeam said:

I wish I could do that!

VoicesCarry said:

Rhythm of Love is class!

Great to see you around, by the way!

Moonbeam said:

Stanks! I hear you're moving to Australia, soon Shocked is the shit! I will give you that much But BTDYK is a little too early 90's camp for me.

VoicesCarry said:

But what about "What Do I Have to Do" and "Step Back in Time"?

CinisterCee said:

It's a blessing and a curse.

Moonbeam said:

First: Yes; Second: No.

For me Kylie pretty much begins with Kylie Minogue (1994).

VoicesCarry said:

OK, she might not be inventing the wheel like the pioneers of rap (cue digital underground) did with samples but at least there is more going on than the lazy rap artists/mariah's and other bimbos of the music world who literally sing over the original track with nothing else added!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ummmm, I have to be honest: Mariah does way more with her samples than just sing over the damn song With IFL, the bassline IS the song, no ifs and or buts about it.

VoicesCarry said:

Can anyone say Fantasy? Please!!

What did she do different to that song except add herself as oohing and ahhing in the background and hire a rapper goon to completely ruin it?
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yes, FANTASY, but anything else? Not really. And I am not even a Mariah fan or defender, but she has used samples nicely in the past (ex. Dreamlover, The Roof). I will say Madonna's samples on this record are better than RAP since in rap the producer is too lazy to even add a backbeat
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VOICES!!!! That orgnote

VoicesCarry said:

Am I the only one here who thinks that "Body Language" is easily her coolest record?

GangstaFam said:

It is her coolest for sure. I just like Fever more because it popped my cherry.

Moonbeam said:

Do you think that BL could possibly be better?

GangstaFam said:

If it wasn't for "After Dark", perhaps.

Moonbeam said:

What's wrong with that?

Look at how many pop whores gathered in one place

GangstaFam said:

After Dark has to be one of the best songs on there... and the live version kics ass!!

TonyVanDam said:

AMEN!!!!!

VoicesCarry said:

I agree.I still listen to "Body Language" once a week.If anything,Madonna is chasing Kylie.Madonna will do anything so stay relevant.

I wish Chico were part of this conversation