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Reply #30 posted 09/29/05 3:07pm

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CinisterCee said:

ooh yeah Bruce Springsteen. I tried asking my family what the big deal about him was.

I guess it depends which Springsteen you're talking about.

His early records featured sprawling songs with romanticized visions of street life and hints of folk/rock, r'n'b and even a little jazz, here and there. I'm not crazy about these. This period culminated in Born to Run.

Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River, Nebraska and Born in the U.S.A. all took a more stripped-down approach to telling tales mostly of the working class. Darkness did so with hard-edged guitar rock. The River was more eclectic, stylistically. Nebraska consisted of demos recorded at home on a 4-track cassette recorder, featuring voice, guitar, harmonica and little else. Born in the U.S.A....well you know about that one. lol As these records went along, the melodrama diminished and the lyrics became more straight-forward.

Tunnel of Love, Human Touch and Lucky Town are records with very adult lyrical concerns. Tunnel was written during his first marriage and takes a very sophisticated look at relationships; the music is very AOR. Human Touch and Lucky Town (released simultaneously)are records that delve into the grey areas of life, with Lucky Town mostly celebrating the pleasures of coming to terms with who you are and finding someone to share that with. These are my favourite Springsteen records.

The Ghost of Tom Joad is a mostly acoustic record that tells tales of the poor (especially Mexican immigrants). Not crazy about it.

Most of the songs on The Rising were inspired by 9/11 and it's a moving record.

Devils & Dust is another acoustic record of story songs focusing on the downtrodden.

Springsteen is an excellent lyricist (especially post-Born in the U.S.A.) and an amazing live performer. His concerts are really something to witness (I would suggest checking-out the Live in Barcelona DVD).



I have heard most of his albums (bar his latest couple) and "tunnel of love" is my fav. Great album.
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Reply #31 posted 09/29/05 3:07pm

Ace

intha916 said:

I'm not talking about classic artists that don't move you by their musical style. I'm talking about those you just can't understand anyone liking. For example, I'm not into the Beatles but I can understand what some people might see in them.

For me, Bob Dylan is that artist. I've heard all about the complexity and nuances of his lyrics. And how he made such a big stir when he moved away from the acoustic folk scene and went electric. I've read about and listened to a lot of Dylan over the years so it's not like I don't have any knowledge of the man. But all of that said, I don't think he's compelling as musician, singer or song-writer. I swear to god, he's like one big SNL skit to me. Dylan heads go nuts when I say this but that's just the way I feel. I'm a pretty open person when it comes to music. I like to listen to stuff that I know isn't really even my style. I like to try and listen with other ears and understand what people that like that sort of style hear in each artist. I can do this with country, rock, traditional jazz and a lot of other forms of music I'm not personally connected with. But I've just never got Dylan. Anyone else have a classic artists they just don't get?
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I find most of Dylan's early work just bullshit wordplay. Some of his later songs are quite amazing.
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Reply #32 posted 09/29/05 3:09pm

Ace

thesexofit said:

Ace said:


I guess it depends which Springsteen you're talking about.

His early records featured sprawling songs with romanticized visions of street life and hints of folk/rock, r'n'b and even a little jazz, here and there. I'm not crazy about these. This period culminated in Born to Run.

Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River, Nebraska and Born in the U.S.A. all took a more stripped-down approach to telling tales mostly of the working class. Darkness did so with hard-edged guitar rock. The River was more eclectic, stylistically. Nebraska consisted of demos recorded at home on a 4-track cassette recorder, featuring voice, guitar, harmonica and little else. Born in the U.S.A....well you know about that one. lol As these records went along, the melodrama diminished and the lyrics became more straight-forward.

Tunnel of Love, Human Touch and Lucky Town are records with very adult lyrical concerns. Tunnel was written during his first marriage and takes a very sophisticated look at relationships; the music is very AOR. Human Touch and Lucky Town (released simultaneously)are records that delve into the grey areas of life, with Lucky Town mostly celebrating the pleasures of coming to terms with who you are and finding someone to share that with. These are my favourite Springsteen records.

The Ghost of Tom Joad is a mostly acoustic record that tells tales of the poor (especially Mexican immigrants). Not crazy about it.

Most of the songs on The Rising were inspired by 9/11 and it's a moving record.

Devils & Dust is another acoustic record of story songs focusing on the downtrodden.

Springsteen is an excellent lyricist (especially post-Born in the U.S.A.) and an amazing live performer. His concerts are really something to witness (I would suggest checking-out the Live in Barcelona DVD).



I have heard most of his albums (bar his latest couple) and "tunnel of love" is my fav. Great album.

thumbs up!

As much as it breaks my heart to say it, I would pass on Devils & Dust.
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Reply #33 posted 09/29/05 3:13pm

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Ace said:

thesexofit said:




I have heard most of his albums (bar his latest couple) and "tunnel of love" is my fav. Great album.

thumbs up!

As much as it breaks my heart to say it, I would pass on Devils & Dust.



I gotta hear it again. Heck, iam dealing with love shit at the mo', so it might be good for me.

I got "tougher than the rest" live somewhere. Its proberly even better then the original. I love that song.
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Reply #34 posted 09/29/05 3:15pm

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It's probably in my best interest to not reply to this thread, but I can't resist:

The Beatles
AC/DC
Pink Floyd
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys

We'll start with those. biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 09/29/05 3:20pm

CinisterCee

Moonbeam said:

It's probably in my best interest to not reply to this thread, but I can't resist:

The Beatles
AC/DC
Pink Floyd
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys

We'll start with those. biggrin


The Beatles - well we all know you don't like them.
AC/DC - I'm not really into them either.
Pink Floyd - I realized a month ago I don't have anything by them.
Bob Dylan - it's the lyrics.
The Beach Boys - omfg you don't like them? Have you heard Pet Sounds (1966)? I think it's really all about Pet Sounds.
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Reply #36 posted 09/29/05 3:27pm

Ace

thesexofit said:

Ace said:


thumbs up!

As much as it breaks my heart to say it, I would pass on Devils & Dust.



I gotta hear it again. Heck, iam dealing with love shit at the mo', so it might be good for me.

I got "tougher than the rest" live somewhere. Its proberly even better then the original. I love that song.

Yeah, the live version is great!

If relationship issues are on your mind, I'd probably recommend Human Touch.
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Reply #37 posted 09/29/05 3:32pm

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CinisterCee said:

Have you heard Pet Sounds (1966)? I think it's really all about Pet Sounds.

Pet means fart in my mother language nod so imagine what comes to mind when I hear about that album.

Probably what Moonbeam feels too smile



Fart Sounds giggle
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Reply #38 posted 09/29/05 3:33pm

CinisterCee

giggle Pandurito
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Reply #39 posted 09/29/05 3:34pm

thesexofit

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Ace said:

thesexofit said:




I gotta hear it again. Heck, iam dealing with love shit at the mo', so it might be good for me.

I got "tougher than the rest" live somewhere. Its proberly even better then the original. I love that song.

Yeah, the live version is great!

If relationship issues are on your mind, I'd probably recommend Human Touch.



I think my older bro' has that album somewhere (even though its my dads)

I remember my dad saying he was expecting "born in the USA part 2" and then "tunnel of lvoe" came out (he bought it as soon as it dropped).

He also remembers Michael Jacksons "bad" putting "tunnel of love" release back a few weeks as the demand for "bad" was so high lol
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Reply #40 posted 09/29/05 3:40pm

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thesexofit said:[quote]Stevie bloody wonder.

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.



do u know anthing about soul ?????
have u ever heard innervisions ? talking book ?? or songs in the key of life ??? eek eek eek
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Reply #41 posted 09/29/05 3:41pm

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BinaryJustin said:

Jimi Hendrix.

I know it's probably technically amazing but a lot of it sounds like somebody slowly letting air out of a balloon.

eek eek eek
WHATEVER...
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Reply #42 posted 09/29/05 3:47pm

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prettymansson said:[quote]

thesexofit said:

Stevie bloody wonder.

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.



do u know anthing about soul ?????
have u ever heard innervisions ? talking book ?? or songs in the key of life ??? eek eek eek



Yeah my dad has them iam sure. Do i have to like soul lol
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Reply #43 posted 09/29/05 3:53pm

Anxiety

PANDURITO said:

CinisterCee said:

Have you heard Pet Sounds (1966)? I think it's really all about Pet Sounds.

Pet means fart in my mother language nod so imagine what comes to mind when I hear about that album.

Probably what Moonbeam feels too smile



Fart Sounds giggle


You know what? I *LIKE* Pet Sounds, but I don't *LOVE* Pet Sounds, and I really don't understand why so many musicians hold it up in such high regards...I can hear the influence in a lot of artists I like today, but it seems like such a superficial style to copy, like you're just trying to replicate the vocal harmonies and melodies which, while, yes, very nice, don't exactly get down to the root of anything substantial to my ears. I can't complain too much because, like I said, I hear a lot of influence in bands I like. I just think there are far better bands and albums to praise. I'm sure I must be missing something. I think Brian Wilson is great, but I don't think he's transcendent or epochal like a lot of folks do.
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Reply #44 posted 09/29/05 3:56pm

Anxiety

BinaryJustin said:

sinisterpentatonic said:



especially Hendrix! tease


I can't be the only one - surely?

Everybody I tell this to, looks at me like I'm mental.


if hendrix had just recorded atonal feedback noise music, i could maybe understand what you're saying. but since he recorded stuff like "crosstown traffic" and "foxey lady", i gotta suggest that you listen to some of his funkier, poppier stuff. it's great! and listen to the song "axis bold as love" if you wanna hear a rock ballad that launched some of prince's most dramatic stuff. my favorite, though, is "third stone from the sun" - that song is killer in so many ways....
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Reply #45 posted 09/29/05 4:03pm

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thesexofit said:

Ace said:


thumbs up!

As much as it breaks my heart to say it, I would pass on Devils & Dust.



I gotta hear it again. Heck, iam dealing with love shit at the mo', so it might be good for me.

I got "tougher than the rest" live somewhere. Its proberly even better then the original. I love that song.


Devils and Dust is his best in years, in my opinion. Way better, less forced than the Rising.

My list:
Biggie
MC5
The Cure
Depeche Mode
much Velvet Underground
Barbara Streisand
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Reply #46 posted 09/29/05 4:07pm

Anxiety

i don't get biggie either...i always feel like it's more about the culture that he represented than his actual talent as a rapper or a performer. shrug

i can agree about the velvets too, to some extent. there's a handful of songs by them that i really like, and a bunch of stuff that bores the stuffing outta me. i love what THEY represented - i think they had a really cool, sexy, new york hipster asthetic - but i could never get overly excited about their music. one good "best of" by them and i'm good to go.
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Reply #47 posted 09/29/05 4:14pm

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To all Grateful Dead, Phish and Dave Matthews fans...


I just wanna throw a big ass question mark at ya...WTF confuse

?????
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Reply #48 posted 09/29/05 4:18pm

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David bowie.


Is is me or does he suffer from style over substance musically? Alot of his music seems very cluttered and overproduced? Maybe iam seeing the wrong music videos.....i think people criticised prince in that way too?


He references major tom in at least 2 songs. Who is tom? confused
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Reply #49 posted 09/29/05 4:18pm

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thesexofit said:

Stevie bloody wonder. machinegun machinegun chainsaw uzi uzi uzi johnwoo johnwoo chair chair chair

Jesus, people think he walked on water on here.



madonna ain't all that.

Cant stand the beastie boys. They bring out the worst parts of rock and rap. Its in your face torture.




Take that back, don't meess with me man, I'm an Original OG like hammer. lol
Stevie Rules.
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Reply #50 posted 09/29/05 4:24pm

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I don't Springsteen fans, I guees it's like Phish, even though politically he doesn't reflect alot of their mind sets. I like Bruce, but sometimes I wonder what's the point of E Street. Clarence and the bunch annoy me.


Everybody else you guys mentioned fucking rule, btw


Pink Floyd eek They rule heaven and earth man.
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Reply #51 posted 09/29/05 4:24pm

Moonbeam

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lilgish said:

To all Grateful Dead, Phish and Dave Matthews fans...


I just wanna throw a big ass question mark at ya...WTF confuse

?????


AMEN! Big yawn-fest!
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Reply #52 posted 09/29/05 4:26pm

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Smashing Pumpkins, for the life of me I don't get what people see in them. Billy Corgan has the most annoying voice I've ever heard I give them credit for being different but there are much better alternative bands.
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Reply #53 posted 09/29/05 4:28pm

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Oh yeah, I wouldn't go as far as calling him a classic artist, but what the hell's the deal with Tom Jones?
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Reply #54 posted 09/29/05 4:32pm

Anxiety

thesexofit said:

David bowie.


Is is me or does he suffer from style over substance musically? Alot of his music seems very cluttered and overproduced? Maybe iam seeing the wrong music videos.....i think people criticised prince in that way too?


He references major tom in at least 2 songs. Who is tom? confused


for starters, don't listen to his albums from the late 80s and early 90s. lol
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Reply #55 posted 09/29/05 4:32pm

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lovedad43 said:

Smashing Pumpkins, for the life of me I don't get what people see in them. Billy Corgan has the most annoying voice I've ever heard I give them credit for being different but there are much better alternative bands.


they were average. no better than the Screaming Trees.
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Reply #56 posted 09/29/05 4:37pm

Ace

lilgish said:

I don't Springsteen fans, I guees it's like Phish, even though politically he doesn't reflect alot of their mind sets.

I always identified with this quote from an article on Springsteen by Penn Jillette:

I have many deep political, social, moral, ethical and stylistic differences with the people around me at a Springsteen concert. But Springsteen makes those differences unimportant.



lilgish said:

I like Bruce, but sometimes I wonder what's the point of E Street. Clarence and the bunch annoy me.

I don't get it either. Although Roy Bittan (piano) and Nils Lofgren (guitar) are excellent musicians.
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Reply #57 posted 09/29/05 4:38pm

Tessa

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the Dead
the Who
Zeppelin
Dylan, i get. i like his songs. and sometimes i like his voice, but mostly, it's hard to take.



and all doo-wop. ugh. it's almost as bad as barbershop quartet.
"I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you."
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Reply #58 posted 09/29/05 4:42pm

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thesexofit said:

David bowie.


Is is me or does he suffer from style over substance musically? Alot of his music seems very cluttered and overproduced? Maybe iam seeing the wrong music videos.....i think people criticised prince in that way too?


He references major tom in at least 2 songs. Who is tom? confused


Bowie is the Black prince. At times, Bowie has even more soul than Prince.
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Reply #59 posted 09/29/05 4:48pm

Ace

I have many deep political, social, moral, ethical and stylistic differences with the people around me at a Springsteen concert. But Springsteen makes those differences unimportant.

I should note that the vast majority of Springsteen fans seem to be Democrats (or further to the left). I think any right-wingers that were left fucked-off after the announcement of the "Vote for Change" tour. lol
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