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Overrated "White" artists doing Black Music Something that I notice through the years, everytime you see a white artist doing some good music, the Media always overrate him...
Back in the day it was Elvis Presley who was titled the King of Rock n Roll... (Everybody know that he's not, Little Richard or Chuck Berry deserve the title) More close to us, Eminem the first rapper doing big in the rap game, and every media think he's the best rapper (To me Nas he's ten times more talented) And the last is Justin Timberlake who was titled by Rolling Stone "The New King Of Pop" after he released his first album... Why the White media don't respect the Black Architects ??? PS : I'm not a racist...  [Edited 4/13/05 18:04pm] | |
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I don't think you are racist but I don't believe in the concept of Black or White music. | |
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so when prince made around the world in a day with all its beatles influences, was that disrespecting the caucasian architects? :confused:
of course, the beatles started out as many bands of that era did, as fans of little richard and chuck berry. so i guess they were disrespectful of the black architects along with eminem. as soon as i get home, i'm gonna throw all my CDs out the window. i don't have the space for so much disrespect. | |
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Anxiety said: so when prince made around the world in a day with all its beatles influences, was that disrespecting the caucasian architects? :confused:
of course, the beatles started out as many bands of that era did, as fans of little richard and chuck berry. so i guess they were disrespectful of the black architects along with eminem. as soon as i get home, i'm gonna throw all my CDs out the window. i don't have the space for so much disrespect. 
I will agree that critics tend to label 'white' artists the best thing since sliced bread when they do r&b or hip-hop. I used to like Em and Timberfake but there are people who do it way better than the two of them that get no love. | |
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Anxiety said: so when prince made around the world in a day with all its beatles influences, was that disrespecting the caucasian architects? :confused:
of course, the beatles started out as many bands of that era did, as fans of little richard and chuck berry. so i guess they were disrespectful of the black architects along with eminem. as soon as i get home, i'm gonna throw all my CDs out the window. i don't have the space for so much disrespect. No, you misunderstood my first post.. I'm not against white artist doing Black music ... Instead I love Joe Cocker, Eric Clapton, or others artist like that... I reflect on the fact that everytime you see a new white artist doing black music (good music), the Media ALWAYS overrate him... To me Elvis, Eminem or Justin are talented but I think the Media overrated them too much... [Edited 4/13/05 18:14pm] | |
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Eminem is the most overated white artist since Vanilla Ice "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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krayzie said: To me Elvis, Eminem or Justin are talented but I think the Media overrated them too much... okay, i kinda get your point. don't you think usher got the same amount of media overkill that justin timberflake got? and we don't hear squat about justin these days (though i'm sure we will eventually). it's all about the flavor of the week - these days, i don't think it has to do with race. i remember getting sick and tired of alicia keys when she blew up in the media. | |
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Anxiety said: krayzie said: To me Elvis, Eminem or Justin are talented but I think the Media overrated them too much... okay, i kinda get your point. don't you think usher got the same amount of media overkill that justin timberflake got? and we don't hear squat about justin these days (though i'm sure we will eventually). it's all about the flavor of the week - these days, i don't think it has to do with race. i remember getting sick and tired of alicia keys when she blew up in the media. I agree with you but there's a big difference between Usher and Justin ... To make a comparison, the media try too hard to convince us that Justin is the new king of Pop... His first album was good (very good) but damn, he has to do more than that to deserve the title of "new King of pop"... In 1979, when Michael jackson released Off the wall, I don't remember the Media titled him the King of pop, even after Thriller, Bad and Dangerous... | |
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krayzie said: I agree with you but there's a big difference between Usher and Justin ... To make a comparison, the media try too hard to convince us that Justin is the new king of Pop... His first album was good (very good) but damn, he has to do more than that to deserve the title of "new King of pop"... In 1979, when Michael jackson released Off the wall, I don't remember the Media titled him the King of pop, even after Thriller, Bad and Dangerous... look at it the other way though - after the hype dies down, when people dig up that "new king of pop" crap about justin, it's gonna look REALLY, REALLY STUPID. reaping and sowing, my friend.  | |
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unfortunately you've left out an important factor: CA$H
I read that it takes a lot of it to even get a song played on the radio, titles are made by companies who are also paid. Without using something that has already been used to play us (color differences) don't you think that a title has to be earned? With one album a title isn't even if the person has abilities regardless of marketing tactics or P.R. stunts (Janet's tit). Understand the machine and the answer is clear | |
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Any of the white rappers, but of course, these days the black rappers are also overrated. They're all full of shit. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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If a black woman tried to make it in the industry based on pure vocal talent, and was saddled with Joss Stone's voice...HAH! I doubt it. But Joss looks like she belongs in an A&F catalogue, and so she is inherently marketable; furthermore, her innocuous "urban/soul" music can be played 24/7 at all Gap locations nationwide. [Edited 4/13/05 19:42pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: If a black woman tried to make it in the industry based on pure talent, and was saddled with Joss Stone's voice...HAH! I doubt it.
VC, now you could say, "Kiss my avatar!" and i'd consider it.
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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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stupid thread. zero stars. "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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Tessa said: stupid thread. zero stars.
HAHA agreed | |
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VoicesCarry said:
If a black woman tried to make it in the industry based on pure vocal talent, and was saddled with Joss Stone's voice...HAH! I doubt it. But Joss looks like she belongs in an A&F catalogue, and so she is inherently marketable; furthermore, her innocuous "urban/soul" music can be played 24/7 at all Gap locations nationwide. [Edited 4/13/05 19:42pm] Joss is the latest example of this.   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Eminem is overrated,period | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: I don't think you are racist but I don't believe in the concept of Black or White music.
What a beautiful response. I wish everyone thought the same way you do. Music is music. It shouldn't have a colour. I think this thread is ridiculous and silly, but I love your response. | |
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DavidEye said: Eminem is overrated,period
I agree.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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The most overrated white people to play so-called "black music":
Emenim Vanilla Ice Justin Timberflake Post "Bad" Michael Jackson 
Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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kisscamille said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: I don't think you are racist but I don't believe in the concept of Black or White music.
What a beautiful response. I wish everyone thought the same way you do. Music is music. It shouldn't have a colour. I think this thread is ridiculous and silly, but I love your response. co-sign =) | |
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JediMaster said: The most overrated white people to play so-called "black music":
Post "Bad" Michael Jackson  | |
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krayzie said: Something that I notice through the years, everytime you see a white artist doing some good music, the Media always overrate him...
Maybe it's because they're genuinely great. Back in the day it was Elvis Presley who was titled the King of Rock n Roll... (Everybody know that he's not, Little Richard or Chuck Berry deserve the title) No more so than Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Jerry Lee Lewis ... More close to us, Eminem the first rapper doing big in the rap game, ... Eh? If you mean first WHITE rapper, than it's your good fortune NOT to have known Vanilla Ice. It's also your misfortune to have not known The Beastie Boys. and every media think he's the best rapper (To me Nas he's ten times more talented) No they don't. Eminem's had his day. Encore hasn't sold as well as its predecessors and his time has passed. Nas may be a better MC than Eminem in your opinion, but he hasn't made a decent album since It Was Written in 1996. How old were you then? And the last is Justin Timberlake who was titled by Rolling Stone "The New King Of Pop" after he released his first album... Agreed Justin's a wanker. Rock Your Bod-Ayyy was ok though. Why the White media don't respect the Black Architects ??? Which buildings are we talking here?
PS : I'm not a racist...
[Edited 4/13/05 18:04pm] PS: No, probably not, but you need to open your mind up a lot more. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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I see there are still a lot of white people trying to pretend that racism in the music industry no longer exists. That's bull, regardless to how you FEEL. Feelings don't always equal up to reality. Facts dictate results. Facts - white people like to see white people in the media. This is not really racist, its a simple fact of life. Black people like to see black people, asians to asians, etc. Since the media is controlled by white people and jews who are seeking to market to white people, it is only common sense that a lack of balance would exist. Its also very common for whites to "upgrade" white artists who do R&B and hip hop. As long as they are asthetically pleasing (Eminem as opposed to Bubba Sparks) and retain a degree of pop mentality and mass appeal, there are tons of supporters who are willing to lie and claim they are better than they actually are to support their credibility. It makes sense to the labels because MORE WHITE PEOPLE BUY MUSIC. Sorry brothas & sistas, but its true. A fact in this country. Labels go where the money flows. They are very racist against anything that's not green. The fact is MOST white artists doing R&B get immediately overrated for the reasons mentioned above. As Anxiety said, when the hype dies down, do you think their CDs get dusted off after a couple of years? Hell no. By then, the industry is marketing a new artist to fawn over, and the masses eat him/her up. They ALMOST always do.
You can always tell the sincere white artists; they are the ones with the smallest album sales (Teena, Jon B., etc.) and they are the ones who keep on doing what they do anyway because they love it. Props to them. [Edited 4/14/05 11:08am] | |
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Thank you BlaqueKnight.
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The media hypes everyone.
Alicia Keyes, Eminem, Elvis, 50 Cent/the Game,Franz Ferdinand, the Killers, The Hives, Green Day, Nirvana, JustinBritneyParisColinFarrellLebronJames... Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm | |
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Anxiety said: we don't hear squat about justin these days (though i'm sure we will eventually)
Just you wait. I like the fact he is laying low and does not flood the market ALL of the time. But when he drops the new album, be ready for some major coverage... man, his last album was really good. And I am not overrating him. His album was just the right sound at the right time. And let's be honest, the 'white' market is bigger than the 'black' market. So logically all the money-making attention of the commercial American market (cuz that is what we are talking about AGAIN) will flow to the bigger money makers. Meaning the Britneys, Justins and Elvis's. It's just a question of money, not of disrespect. | |
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Eminem ain't overrated. He's acutally a dope lyricist and tight MC. Cant nobody fuck with his wordplay. Vanilla Ice didnt really have skills. He was just another medicore rapper. If he had the same success Eminem did, then Ice would've been overrated. Onion Juice appears courtesy of Streethop.com | |
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HamsterHuey said: Anxiety said: we don't hear squat about justin these days (though i'm sure we will eventually)
Just you wait. I like the fact he is laying low and does not flood the market ALL of the time. But when he drops the new album, be ready for some major coverage... man, his last album was really good. And I am not overrating him. His album was just the right sound at the right time. And let's be honest, the 'white' market is bigger than the 'black' market. So logically all the money-making attention of the commercial American market (cuz that is what we are talking about AGAIN) will flow to the bigger money makers. Meaning the Britneys, Justins and Elvis's. It's just a question of money, not of disrespect. Justified is a very good album... If you have never listened to any Michael Jackson or Stevie Wonder albums... | |
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Anxiety said: so when prince made around the world in a day with all its beatles influences, was that disrespecting the caucasian architects? :confused:
of course, the beatles started out as many bands of that era did, as fans of little richard and chuck berry. so i guess they were disrespectful of the black architects along with eminem. as soon as i get home, i'm gonna throw all my CDs out the window. i don't have the space for so much disrespect. ----- People did't like ATWIAD to much. Especially critics. I hope your not going to discount that a lot of white artist get a free pass for doing so-so RnB music. | |
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