mrdespues said:

You bet.

And yes, she sure does look gorgeous in that video. But then I think Sheila is ALWAYS gorgeous...

No Problemo


Now the thread can be closed

yes please close this thread so i can be shamed no more.

SexLovely said:

I'm afraid it is, bro.

I thought the same...thought they was blind! but it was I who was blind, son....it was I!

at least, that's what i'll probably be saying to orgers someday when i finally live this down!

It's Sheila E's twin sister, She-Ra.

Of course it is Sheila. It totally looks like her and it never occurred to me that it was anyone else.

Haystack said:

i thought that was the sister of Heman.

or his horse, i dunno

mrdespues said:

what made you aware that it WAS sheila E? Just curious as to what changed your mind. I never thought it wasn't sheila E, and I saw the video on mtv and BET back when it played a few times...

mrdespues said:

I don't think that's Prince in the video either. I think it was all done with impersonators who look exactly 100% like them.

PrimordialOoze said:

How can anyone take this dumbass claim any serious??
Next thing they'll say Boni and Cat are Wendy and Lisa...
Oh and another thing... Wendy, Lisa and Susannah were long gone when he was working on the "Black Album", now what does that say about the time "Lovesexy" and its vids were
recorded...
Anyone claiming it's not Sheila E. is rather blind and uninformed...

Neversin.

well for the record, it didn't look like sheila to me neither...

PrimordialOoze said:

Yes it is Shelia and Kat is in the video as well. Everyone looked 'white' in the video it was lit and post produced that way. It is not hard to get light skinned black folk to look 'white' but don't take my word for it go to www.launch.com and look up Prince. They have that video and you can view it in its entirety.
Peace

dawntreader said:

See, it's uncanny!

Anxiety said:

Thas what im saying. It wasnt them in the video... Prince took the gals on a shopping spree and had clones made to cover for them in the video.

Apparently the clones didnt have the same IQ's, the Prince clone was responsible for directing the Graffiti Bridge movie.

Haystack said:

mrdespues said:

you were kidding weren't u?????

It clearly looks like Sheila E.... . I don't get the part about the caucasian features. They never showed a close up of her, so it's difficult to tell what type of features she has.

Haystack said:

PrimordialOoze said:

That is Sheila E. Dang, y'all can't see that?

GeSmi1

mrdespues said:

Even Prince looks caucasian in that video. I guess that's what the director of the video wanted.

You can't see that?

GeSmi1

mrdespues said:

Nice with the racial stereotype



Now why is it that she all of a sudden looks hot when she looks white? So wrong


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[This message was edited Mon May 24 17:22:25 2004 by Universaluv]

Universaluv said:

I peeped that too....

THAT IS MOST DEFINITELY SHEILA E. LIGHTING IN FILMS CAN VARY AND CHANGE A PERSONS TRUE COMPLEXION. TAKE A CLOSER MORE CAREFUL LOOK AT THE VIDEO. CAN'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAD A DOUBT.

You can watch the video on Launch also, if anyone hasn't seen it...

On Sheila E.'s website: www.sheilaE.com she has a video credit for appearing in the 'I Wish U Heaven' video, but don't know about Susannah.
[This message was edited Mon May 24 20:48:47 2004 by Starmist7]

I worked for the production company that made the video. The company was called Limelight (it went out of business), and we used to have an office in LA and London.

We did a lot of videos for Prince during this time period. (That documentary NPG Music club did was actually edited in my office. They kicked me out to move in the editing machines.)

Jean Baptiste Mondino (sp?) was not in any way trying to make anyone look white. That is the most ridiculous claim. He was more enthralled with a new post production technique that he wanted to try out. It was called Harry, and it allowed you to manipulate images and create effects in new ways (at the time). So he shot footage of the Prince, Sheila E., the apples, the gun, etc., all on separate passes. Then he combined them in post to create the video.

The video went way over budget. The effects were cutting edge (though it doesn't really look like it), and it took much longer to produce than people thought it would. Other directors who used this early technique were Peter Greenaway (his movie version of "The Tempest" called "Prospero's Books," and the director Zbigniew Rybczynski, who directed the Pet Shop Boys's video "Opportunities (Let's make lots of money)." Anyway, the single didn't go anywhere, and the video wasn't played that much.

BTW, we were preparing a video for "Lovesexy" since that was going to be the next single released, but it was scrapped.

It made sense they would use a lot of light, from an artistic perspective, since the song is about 'Heaven'.

Just feel the need to stand up for myself here. I've taken somewhat of a bashing over my obviously outlandish claims!

I made a simple mistake. As a few other people have attested, it is not immediately apparent that it is Sheila E. Now of course, I can see that it clearly is, but only with the hindsight of seeing her face to the camera.

Secondly, I am in no way a racist. I have dated people of other races and yes while it may be a stereotype to say a caucasian will tend to have a pointier nose, it is also, like a lot of stereotypes and cliches, often true. This is not to say black or hispanic people cannot have just as pointy, if not pointier noses than white people. But it is in fact usually not the case. Further against the racist slander towards me, I do not believe that anyone is EVER more beautiful as a person simply due to their race. In the case of Sheila, I simply have not seen her look more beautiful than in this video. She could have been in muted brown tones and I am sure I would have not differed in my attraction. She just looks hot, okay?

Thirdly, for the record, I consider myself usually pretty knowledgable about things related to Prince, but in this case, I was glad to be corrected. It's good to learn something new about Prince when I sometimes feel like I've covered a lot more than your average listener would care to.

Finally I don't appreciate being called an idiot and even if I WAS at first adamant that it was not Sheila, it doesn't matter. If you're just kidding, then fine...call me an idiot. I'm not going to start crying about it, because this thread was started in good fun...but please just back off with the deliberately abusive comments. Thankyou. I'll try to be a little more accurate next time. Please forgive me.