bananacologne said:

riverdean7 said:

What is?

You guys take this forum WAY too seriously. Ya'll need to chill for real!!

thechronic2 said:

Leave it to a University Of Michigan grad to not know the difference between dancing and gymnastics.

richierich said:

Must be another account of thechronics

In a serious examination of this subject (which is difficult to do on this thread, since it was started by a dude with a U of M degree, a worthless "institution of higher learning" if ever there was one), one must look at the sum total of what the two have done as "dancers"

Prince's primary focus isn't dancing, but when he busts a move it is quite impressive. He took moves from James Brown and Little Richard (can't believe that no one has mentioned Little Richard on here. I know he didn't dance much on stage, but when he did he truly cut a rug. His moves most definitely influenced P's style) and added his own flair.

Usher is primarily copping MJ's moves. Not much originality at all. However, that isn't what the topic is asking. Who is a better dancer? Just on technique, most likely Usher. Now, who is the more interesting, original dancer? I would go with P. Prince has managed to keep evolving with his moves over the years (you are unlikely to see a choreographed routine from one tour repeated on the next), which sets him apart from MJ. Michael is, ultimately, a much better dancer on the whole, but he tends to repeat himself (in this regard, his sister has fared far better, even though she isn't as good a dancer. Janet, I find, to be more interesting).

Besides, every single one of them owes a debt to James Brown. His influence is apparent in all of them (in the case of Usher, its third generation, since he borrows liberally from MJ).

laylow03 said:

Not really suppose we just like to get our points across,I feel sometimes river gets upset at certain purposeful windup remarks from others then resorts to doing the same,but I guess thats why chronic set up this thread. At least river disscuses it and gives his point of veiw,chronic is just the most selfobsessed person on here.

thechronic2 said:

Prince...But James Brown would make the both of them look like a couple of fools.

crazyhorse said:

nah james lost it
i saw the BET special
i thin james almost broke his hip
MJ schooled him

but why the hell are we still discussin this lol
lets settle it this way
Prince Usher in a battle whos going to win?
neither cause pharrel is gon jump in the middle and do his tired pop locking lol

I'd be interested to hear which Prince songs these MJ fanatics actually like if any. They must not be listening to the same Prince if MJ pops to mind everytime his name is mentioned. Serious music lovers don't give a fuck about Michael Jackson. Well, that's harsh.

Let me say that it's fine to enjoy Michael Jackson, but he's not in the same realm as Prince. There's very little complexity and variation to a Michael Jackson song. I will say he can write a hit pop tune as well as anybody else though. Now back to the all important debate.

whodknee said:

oh excuse me oh great one
well i consider myself a serious music listener and a serious music artist
i listen from the stylings of led zepplin, the doors, rolling stones, aerosmith
to the smoothness of barry white sade, prince
my taste varies cause i have a broad musical taste
and i do GIVE A FUCK about Michael Jackson
he's a great song writer and a great producer, and knows good music
now your thinking of these morons who compare prince to mj all the time
which to me is impossible cause they are too different from each other

but i must say this perhaps if you listened to a few more michael jackson songs then the poppy singles
you would find some kind of complexity in it
im out this M.F.

rich im referring to your comment about the supposed praise of princes dancing by usher

i agree love4one
whodknee as usual your talking outa your ass again

prince

riverdean7 said:

Yes Usher was on MTV base I think and he had to pick his top favorite dancers or dance vids ,something to that effect and I only caught the tail end ,he picked himself 2nd then as it was coming to the top one he mentioned a few dancers Prince was 1 and he said ,something like 'The way Prince does those things with the mic etc.He chose MJ as number 1.

I aint dissin MJ but I think often people name check him as a defence thing because of the shit thats happened against him.I watched a show and it was about MJ and Beyonce,Missy Elliot etc were going over the top over MJ like the praise they were heeping on was sickly,fake.
This is another reason I think many praise him and not so much Prince. http://www.age-of-the-sag...rmity.html

MJ is a good dancer no doubt, but his style and moves have stayed the same through the years....he needs to watch his little sister Janet..that girl can move.
And Usher is a better dancer than Prince...big deal...I don't go to concerts to see dancing...it's all about the music

rich what crap people say mj cause hes the best it aint got nothing to do with his personal situation i agree prince is good with the mike thingy though
u think those celebs praising was fake i think your just jealous that prince dont have a doco with people praising him

riverdean7 said:

It takes a certain type of celeb to have shows dedicated to them usually very popular mainstream ones,Thats why timberlake gets them robbie williams MJ etc,as for being jealous 'why' I wouldnt want that on Prince it appeared fake like, typical talk to the hand girlfriend type bullshit,I aint saying he it great its just the praise some were putting out was sickly not just plain appreciative. Maybe's I'm just cinical whan it comes to shit like this but I dont care wether Prince is as popular as MJ ,Usher,Robbie Wiliams,Busted,JT,Britney or gets doco's dedicated to him,he aint alone there are many artist who IMO are better than the extremely popular mainstream artists and barely get a mention.

The Reason they name check, is because when they weren't "Famous" when they were fans, and they were influenced in some way, if they weren't influenced they got no reason to name drop,
its not a trend!
When ever i perform with my band
i name drop Prince and MJ cause those 2 artist are the ones that majorly influenced me
No matter how much i try to be original
its going to be extremely hard
cause PRINCe and MIke Covered MAJOR GROUND!
they did alot
you can't say MJ is only a great dancer
because he's a great dancer,songwriter,producer,underated musician overall entertainer
he lives and breathes performing
you can't Just say Prince is a great Singer
Cause he's a singer,songwrter,musician,producer,Entertainer
those 2 artist for me are Equal cause P can dance his azz off too
Im tired of this damn rivalry
P fans saying MJ is nothing but a 2bit entertainer
and MJ fans going Prince is nothing but a singer who relied on shock value alone
both of those cats are talented brothers
we need to end this rivalry
I mean seriously

Plus isnt this damn thread about usher and prince anyway
Can yall please Xplain to me how MIchael Fawkin Jackson Manages to weed into every fawkin thread!
i mean this is gettin ridiculous!
[This message was edited Wed Apr 28 5:21:38 2004 by Luv4oneanotha]

rich u wouldnt of said it was fake if they were sayin it bout prince cmon now u would be saying wow finally people are giving prince some props

Luv4oneanotha said:

Well I agree with you but,I am on a Prince site coz I'm a Prince fan and I wouldn't go on an MJ fan site talking about Prince as thats unhealthy,but when people start bringing MJ or Usher etc into every other argument saying that Prince isnt this or that and MJ is only an exceptional guitarist it beggers belief and I react to it.I aint ever going to agree that Usher or MJ or more important to me than Prince ,but then again thats why I go to a Prince website. Wheres chronic at nowadays he'e the arse that started this shit stirring thread.

riverdean7 said:

I would say it was fake if it was about Prince.

wow glad u agree with me

richierich said:

[flame snipped, -Tom]

huh u changed your mind now

riverdean7 said:

No,If people like beyonce were praising prince in such a fake way it would turn my stomach.

Luv4oneanotha said:

I myself am an MJ fan ,but that is not why I have joined in on these discussions,its because sometimes things have been said that have been questionable.

i agree rich lots of your posts are questionable to

riverdean7 said:

I wasnt referin to you ,dont be so paranoid.

richierich said:

i feel like im on jerry springer

i never said u did i just stated a fact that alot of yours are