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Maybe he never had 1000s of songs "ready to release" - it was probably a bit of a PR stunt, or a bit of braggadocio, or both. Even if he did have a vault full of thousands of songs, there isn't necessarily a market waiting for that music. | |
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Personally I'm not surprised his output has dropped in recent years, in volume and quality. He's getting older y'know... | |
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ian said: Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one.
Maybe he never had 1000s of songs "ready to release" - it was probably a bit of a PR stunt, or a bit of braggadocio, or both. Even if he did have a vault full of thousands of songs, there isn't necessarily a market waiting for that music. And Im sure not each one is a gem "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: ian said: Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one.
Maybe he never had 1000s of songs "ready to release" - it was probably a bit of a PR stunt, or a bit of braggadocio, or both. Even if he did have a vault full of thousands of songs, there isn't necessarily a market waiting for that music. And Im sure not each one is a gem Absolutely. Judging from a lot of the outtakes and boots I've heard over the years, a lot of them are shit. I think we can assume that Prince WANTS to put out his best work, the stuff he is most proud of, the stuff that will make him the most money etc. We have that. It's sitting in our CD collections right now. That's why I never cared much for boots - I'll leave it to Prince to decide what of his work he feels is worth releasing. When he does release it, I'll buy it if I like it. Simple arrangement really  | |
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psykosoul said: What country do you live in? Do the speak and write in English there? The advertisement plainly states package. I'm assuming you paid membership costs for the past 3 years for the package. Because that's how it was presented. Because it's Prince the lot of you expected music to come falling from the sky and purple rain to actually come from the clouds every now and then. Of course, we all wanted the cds and maybe a chance to see him perform if he came within our vicinities. But truthfully, the music was intended as the bonus, you were really shelling out $100 to get kick ass seats at a show without knowing what you would get in advance. So honestly if you purchased this set, this would be the first time you actually paid for it. And you don't have to keep what you don't want. You know some crackhead in Oomfooland will buy one of those discs on ebay and pay something ignorant for it. If you want the other cds bad enough you'll pay for it. So if you live in a world that makes sense, I hope it makes sense to your kind to not feel forced to buy something you don't really want. [This message was edited Fri Oct 17 16:25:30 PDT 2003 by psykosoul] I have no idea what you are talking, if you're speaking English, it must be a version I've never heard of cause I'm not talking about the past NPGMC years. I'm talking about NOW. And is that what I have to do? Keep doing I mean? Is be a pimp to Prince's music? Buy the WHOLE package and sell off what I don't want? Come on, that makes no sense. Why can't I buy what I want and MOVE ON? Can't answer that, can you? Thought so. You IDIOT!! [This message was edited Sat Oct 18 11:20:27 PDT 2003 by rudedog] | |
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ian said: Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one.
Maybe he never had 1000s of songs "ready to release" - it was probably a bit of a PR stunt, or a bit of braggadocio, or both. Even if he did have a vault full of thousands of songs, there isn't necessarily a market waiting for that music. Doubt it, you know as well I do what Prince has and can release, we've both been collectors for years and I pretty much have half of those 1000 songs. Market for it?? Did you say NO MARKET FOR PRINCE MUSIC??Prince has been independant since 1996 and its nearly 2004, so for 8 years his ONLY market was his die-hard fans...US. I think he's been doing well for himself with "his" market, don't you think?? So the guy has a market to sell that music to, we'll buy anything. Look at the fools who are gonna dish out for this new set...including me! | |
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rudedog said: ian said: Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one.
Maybe he never had 1000s of songs "ready to release" - it was probably a bit of a PR stunt, or a bit of braggadocio, or both. Even if he did have a vault full of thousands of songs, there isn't necessarily a market waiting for that music. Doubt it, you know as well I do what Prince has and can release, we've both been collectors for years and I pretty much have half of those 1000 songs. Market for it?? Did you say NO MARKET FOR PRINCE MUSIC??Prince has been independant since 1996 and its nearly 2004, so for 8 years his ONLY market was his die-hard fans...US. I think he's been doing well for himself with "his" market, don't you think?? So the guy has a market to sell that music to, we'll buy anything. Look at the fools who are gonna dish out for this new set...including me! Personally, I think most of the outtakes and unreleased material (at least, the ones I am aware of) are shit, and I'm not sure I'd buy it... No doubt if he did release it, lots of people would be moaning about how he is "just churning out ancient, dated recordings to make cash" etc
As for market concerns - I was talking about the world beyond hardcore Prince fandom. But even considering the hardcore fans, we don't have an infinite amount of cash to plough into Prince music... we all have other things to do with our money I am sure. In terms of market strategy, it makes sense for Prince to hold back a lot of his work for future releases. I would do the same in his shoes. | |
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ian said: Absolutely. Judging from a lot of the outtakes and boots I've heard over the years, a lot of them are shit.
Oh HELL NAH, you just didn't call those outtake shit, maybe the fake ones you collect, but I'd HARDLY call any of those titles shit!! You are absolutely crazy man!! I mean, tell me with an honest face that you think these songs are "absolute shit": Moonbeam Levels Something In The Water (alternate piano mix) COmputer Blue (full version) Electric Intercourse Mutiny Chocolate Old Friends For Sale(first version) Cross The Line Empty Room Go Do Yourself A Favor Turn It Up God Is Alive We Can Funk (early versions) Teacher Teacher Its A Wonderful Day I'll Do Anything sessions Endorphinemachine Come (early mixes) Cookie Jar All Of My Dreams Heaven Possessed The Dance Electric Rebirth of The Flesh The Ball Train Wonderful Ass Witness For The Prosecution The Sex of It!!! Good Man Work That Fat Madhouse, anything!! Purple Music No Call U Climax G-spot A Million Miles ( I Love U) Manic Monday Desire!!! Now, granted there are songs like The P and the Carmen Electra songs which i can do without. But you can't seriously tell me most of the songs I listed are "shit"?? That just insanity if you're a Prince fan. | |
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rudedog said: ian said: Absolutely. Judging from a lot of the outtakes and boots I've heard over the years, a lot of them are shit.
Oh HELL NAH, you just didn't call those outtake shit, maybe the fake ones you collect, but I'd HARDLY call any of those titles shit!! You are absolutely crazy man!! I mean, tell me with an honest face that you think these songs are "absolute shit": Moonbeam Levels Something In The Water (alternate piano mix) COmputer Blue (full version) Electric Intercourse Mutiny Chocolate Old Friends For Sale(first version) Cross The Line Empty Room Go Do Yourself A Favor Turn It Up God Is Alive We Can Funk (early versions) Teacher Teacher Its A Wonderful Day I'll Do Anything sessions Endorphinemachine Come (early mixes) Cookie Jar All Of My Dreams Heaven Possessed The Dance Electric Rebirth of The Flesh The Ball Train Wonderful Ass Witness For The Prosecution The Sex of It!!! Good Man Work That Fat Madhouse, anything!! Purple Music No Call U Climax G-spot A Million Miles ( I Love U) Manic Monday Desire!!! Now, granted there are songs like The P and the Carmen Electra songs which i can do without. But you can't seriously tell me most of the songs I listed are "shit"?? That just insanity if you're a Prince fan. I like the P!!! . |
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ian said: Personally, I think most of the outtakes and unreleased material (at least, the ones I am aware of) are shit, and I'm not sure I'd buy it... No doubt if he did release it, lots of people would be moaning about how he is "just churning out ancient, dated recordings to make cash" etc
As for market concerns - I was talking about the world beyond hardcore Prince fandom. But even considering the hardcore fans, we don't have an infinite amount of cash to plough into Prince music... we all have other things to do with our money I am sure. In terms of market strategy, it makes sense for Prince to hold back a lot of his work for future releases. I would do the same in his shoes. Check out my other post for that outtake=shit remark. As for market concerns? Dude, where have you been?? The guy doesn't care about the outside market. If he did, don't you think he would be on a major label like 10 years ago?? Everything points to him not CARING about promotion or sales. He could give a rats ass about it. He just wants to put the music out and be done with it. Albums like NEWS and Rainbow Children and even ONA were not made to market to the world-wide market. He has a pretty strong fanbase, especially since he hasn't had a hit since 1992. Ask one of your friends who doesn't know your a Prince fan, they all think he's dead. Even when Prince has his own label, Paisley Park, he cared shit-less about promotion, he didnt give a rat's ass about if ppl in Hungary heard that he was releasing a new album. The guy simply doesn't care about ruling the world, he just does what he does and gets away with it. Even if he's on a record label right now with Universal, who did the promotion for the Vegas DVD? Oh..hmm..Universal. Prince won't do anything like that, he doesn't even like doing videos. There are interviews where he stated he didn't want to do any videos for Lovesexy, check out DMSR if you don't believe me. Your all starting to make me sick. Slowy I am starting to realize I am wasting my time! [This message was edited Sat Oct 18 11:23:05 PDT 2003 by rudedog] | |
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liberation said: Cecy...hey sweetie 
p.s. nice avatar. Well hello to you too!  Didn't know I was gonna get a hug for my post. LOL! | |
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Neversin said: liberation said: Cecy...hey sweetie
p.s. nice avatar. Too bad it's not Prince... Neversin. Yeah I know. The dude in the pic told me so. LOL! I still like it though! | |
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psykosoul said: But truthfully, the music was intended as the bonus, you were really shelling out $100 to get kick ass seats at a show without knowing what you would get in advance.
Where did you get this nonsense shit from?? The club promised new music and even advertised monthly downloads... Don't make up dumb shit man... Neversin. O(+>NIИ<+)O
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rudedog said: ian said: Absolutely. Judging from a lot of the outtakes and boots I've heard over the years, a lot of them are shit.
Oh HELL NAH, you just didn't call those outtake shit, maybe the fake ones you collect, but I'd HARDLY call any of those titles shit!! You are absolutely crazy man!! I mean, tell me with an honest face that you think these songs are "absolute shit": Moonbeam Levels Something In The Water (alternate piano mix) COmputer Blue (full version) Electric Intercourse Mutiny Chocolate Old Friends For Sale(first version) Cross The Line Empty Room Go Do Yourself A Favor Turn It Up God Is Alive We Can Funk (early versions) Teacher Teacher Its A Wonderful Day I'll Do Anything sessions Endorphinemachine Come (early mixes) Cookie Jar All Of My Dreams Heaven Possessed The Dance Electric Rebirth of The Flesh The Ball Train Wonderful Ass Witness For The Prosecution The Sex of It!!! Good Man Work That Fat Madhouse, anything!! Purple Music No Call U Climax G-spot A Million Miles ( I Love U) Manic Monday Desire!!! Now, granted there are songs like The P and the Carmen Electra songs which i can do without. But you can't seriously tell me most of the songs I listed are "shit"?? That just insanity if you're a Prince fan. It's called OPINIONS. I stated my opinion. Deal with it, and don't let it ruin your day. As for that long lost of songs, I can live without most of them to be honest. There's a handful of them I'd like to see released properly someday, but most of them are pretty mediocre IMO. I said "a lot of them are shit" and I stand by that view. I'm not a "collector" - I'm a music lover, and if Prince doesn't think a certain song is worth releasing, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it or devote any time to it. I trust Prince will release the stuff he wants heard. If I like it, I'll buy it. | |
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rudedog said: ian said: Personally, I think most of the outtakes and unreleased material (at least, the ones I am aware of) are shit, and I'm not sure I'd buy it... No doubt if he did release it, lots of people would be moaning about how he is "just churning out ancient, dated recordings to make cash" etc
As for market concerns - I was talking about the world beyond hardcore Prince fandom. But even considering the hardcore fans, we don't have an infinite amount of cash to plough into Prince music... we all have other things to do with our money I am sure. In terms of market strategy, it makes sense for Prince to hold back a lot of his work for future releases. I would do the same in his shoes. Check out my other post for that outtake=shit remark. As for market concerns? Dude, where have you been?? The guy doesn't care about the outside market. If he did, don't you think he would be on a major label like 10 years ago?? Everything points to him not CARING about promotion or sales. He could give a rats ass about it. He just wants to put the music out and be done with it. Albums like NEWS and Rainbow Children and even ONA were not made to market to the world-wide market. He has a pretty strong fanbase, especially since he hasn't had a hit since 1992. Ask one of your friends who doesn't know your a Prince fan, they all think he's dead. Even when Prince has his own label, Paisley Park, he cared shit-less about promotion, he didnt give a rat's ass about if ppl in Hungary heard that he was releasing a new album. The guy simply doesn't care about ruling the world, he just does what he does and gets away with it. Even if he's on a record label right now with Universal, who did the promotion for the Vegas DVD? Oh..hmm..Universal. Prince won't do anything like that, he doesn't even like doing videos. There are interviews where he stated he didn't want to do any videos for Lovesexy, check out DMSR if you don't believe me. Your all starting to make me sick. Slowy I am starting to realize I am wasting my time! [This message was edited Sat Oct 18 11:23:05 PDT 2003 by rudedog] You don't seem to be living in the real world. If opinions that you disagree with "make you sick" you really aren't equipped to be on the internet. Turn off your PC now before you have an accident. My point was that it makes sense for Prince to hold back on some of his unreleased material - if you dump it all in the marketplace suddenly, it won't sell as well as it would if you spread it out over more years. Consumers have a limited amount of money to spend on hobbies and luxuries, and music competes with other forms of entertaining such as cinema and videogames for the consumer dollars. If Prince just put out a 50 CD box set tomorrow, with EVERYTHING on it, it would not be a profitable venture. On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to place one or two CDs per year - as you rightly said, there is a market for it. Right now, he is young enough and creative enough that he is still capable of producing new music and touring to make a living. No doubt he'll find a way to profit from his back catalog of unreleased material over the many years to come, as he gets older. | |
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Neversin said: psykosoul said: But truthfully, the music was intended as the bonus, you were really shelling out $100 to get kick ass seats at a show without knowing what you would get in advance.
Where did you get this nonsense shit from?? The club promised new music and even advertised monthly downloads... Don't make up dumb shit man... Neversin. I probably shouldn't have said shit about since this is my first year as a member. However, the point is still clear that it is "dumb shit" to get pissed off about Prince re-releasing this music again and nobody's getting forced to buy shit. This self-induced battered Prince fan syndrome is dumb shit | |
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ian said: If Prince just put out a 50 CD box set tomorrow, with EVERYTHING on it, it would not be a profitable venture. On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to place one or two CDs per year - as you rightly said, there is a market for it. Right now, he is young enough and creative enough that he is still capable of producing new music and touring to make a living. What the hell are you talking about, not a profitable venture? If he broght a box set out, of things he recorded in the 70's and 80's it would sell in $$$. That is such the band wagon right now, with VH1 doing the 70's and 80's thing, classic rock shirts, artists doing cover songs (boys of summer, heaven etc)even the Today show this week. He could do press now, about the 20 year old songs. Releasing cds yearly with extra tracks, seems to me like filler bullshit instead of something special. He would look so much better if he said, 'the fans wanted it, so here it is' He would be a player again. If he is still capable of producing new music, why is he touring (again) with a greatest hits line up? You are only as good as your last cd and I can't even remember when that was. ---------------------------------
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rudedog said: psykosoul said: Umm how difficult is this decision? If you've got the music, you don't have to pay for it again. Once again, the man is just trying to accommodate a reasonable request from many NPGMC members and folks like you get your panties in a twist. I understand you are feigning for some "NEW" music. Ain't we all? But you act as if Prince knocked on your door and threatened to put 6 bullets in your ass if you decide not to buy this extraordinary package. There's really no need to rant.
No, that's not it. I want some of it, but not all of it. Why do I need ONA three times?? I want Xpecation on CD, but not C-note. I don't need the NPGMC tracks, why? Point is, he forces to buy all of the CDs, instead of the ones we want. If he wants to accomodate the few NPGMC ppl that complain, why are we getting ONA on CD for the THIRD time? Its a scam and my rant is about him stopping that crap, thats all. I want to buy Prince's music, but why must I buy it 5 times before I get some new material? Does this make sense to you? I kinda live in a world that makes sense, don't know if you do. I like the package as the only thing I have from it is ONA and I wasn't a member in years1 or 2. I understand why people who were members of the club in year 1 & 2 would be pissed off as they are being forced to buy the package. I really don't understand why it wouldn't be possible to make the CDs available separately as well as having the package. If this was the case would everyone be happy?? I'll leave graffiti where you've never been kissed | |
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jthad1129 said: ian said: If Prince just put out a 50 CD box set tomorrow, with EVERYTHING on it, it would not be a profitable venture. On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to place one or two CDs per year - as you rightly said, there is a market for it. Right now, he is young enough and creative enough that he is still capable of producing new music and touring to make a living. What the hell are you talking about, not a profitable venture? If he broght a box set out, of things he recorded in the 70's and 80's it would sell in $$$. That is such the band wagon right now, with VH1 doing the 70's and 80's thing, classic rock shirts, artists doing cover songs (boys of summer, heaven etc)even the Today show this week. He could do press now, about the 20 year old songs. Releasing cds yearly with extra tracks, seems to me like filler bullshit instead of something special. He would look so much better if he said, 'the fans wanted it, so here it is' He would be a player again. If he is still capable of producing new music, why is he touring (again) with a greatest hits line up? You are only as good as your last cd and I can't even remember when that was. My point was precisely this: Prince is still young enough to be capable of putting out new music ("The Rainbow Children", "Xpectation", "News") and of touring in order to make money. He has a way to make money. When he is older, he not be able to do that and may rely more heavily on exploiting his back catalog of unreleased material. The point is that a 50 CD set with all of his unreleased material on it would not be a sensible business decision - he can make more money by looking at the big picture and releasing the music more slowly over many years. It is far too risky to shoot all of your load in one go, and there is no compelling reason to do so. If he really has enough music stashed away to put out a CD or two every year until he drops, he'll never go hungry | |
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U BUY OR U DON'T BUY!
WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT? ITS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR VIP CONCERT SEATS, FREE MUSIC AND UNRELEASED MATERIAL. THERE'S NO PLEASING SOME PEOPLE. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: psykosoul said: What country do you live in? Do the speak and write in English there? The advertisement plainly states package. But truthfully, the music was intended as the bonus, you were really shelling out $100 to get kick ass seats at a show without knowing what you would get in advance. This really did make me laugh. Your grammar clearly shows you do not have a grasp of the English language, but you throw stones at others! Anyway. So in year 1, the music was a bonus? Please ask any fan outside of the USA who was a member in year 1, how much they enjoyed the world tour that never took place. Sorry Prince and Psyksoul! I'm glad I paid $100 for seats at concerts that never took place! Please Psyksoul, don't dive for cover. Answer these: 1. How can you attack someones grammar, when you first paragraph does not make sense? 2. If Year 1 music was the bonus, what did those outside of the USA pay $100 for? I'm really looking forward to your answer... . Now I understand. What a silly fam I have been... [This message was edited Fri Oct 17 18:36:47 PDT 2003 by SquirrelMeat] Your ranting and ravings about things that don't mean shit in the end make me laugh. A silly little fam you are indeed if you don't have the common sense to not purchase the set if you don't want it. I'm not one of those people who thinks Prince's shit smells like blossoms in bloom. But I don't bitch and cry on a message board when he doesn't do something that I don't approve of. I love the bulk of his material and pretty much want 2/3s of the music in this set. But since I don't have the option to specifically select what I want from the set, I guess I've got no choice to but to decide whether purchasing the set for 2/3s of music will make me happy or leave it alone because that 1/3 that I don't want will haunt me and make my life a living hell for eternity. No need to school me on the intentions of the NPGMC because ultimately, I really don't give a flying fuck. I'm a grown man who can decide how to spend money without complaining when I find that the money wasn't well spent. Any person with common sense knows that if the service and product aren't up to par with their expectations, then that person shouldn't shop at that place again. Don't look forward to a dignified response from me if you don't have the intelligence to make a clear-cut decision. | |
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rudedog said: I dig PM Dawn Soo ive tried to get in touch with you about this.. If u dig them , u needs to hit me back man.. seriously | |
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paisleypark4 said: rudedog said: I never understood Prince's thinking? Last interview he had with Kurt Loder, he boasted about having 1000 songs ready to release RIGHT NOW...and this was in what 1999???
So why are we getting 7CDs of rehash?? Stuff we already have?? WTF??? I know I'm venting, but he makes no sense. What does he make the music for? In case WW3 happens and we'll have no music but his??? I mean, if he'd release 30 songs a year which is like 3 albums/CDs of music, he would have enough music to release for the next 33+ years!!! Thats just counting the songs he CAN release according to Prince. God knows, how many more are in his vault that he's not done with yet. This is insane!! When he started doing soundchecks and he came to Oakland, I asked him DIRECTLY, if he was planning on releasing more songs from his VAULT and he looked at me with certainty and said YES!! That short, purple-sex-JWcult midget lied to me!! I could understand with Elvis and everyone else who's material has run out so they are releasing outtakes like ONE a year, but Prince has more songs than mostly all artists out there. ARGH!! Okay, I know I'm gonna get bashed by the Princefags, the asskissers and the idiots that don't understand what I'm trying to say so go ahead. It's his music, blah blah blah, if I don't like it, then move on...blah blah blah...wtf are you doing here if you hate Prince so much..blah blah. Its just music..blah blah Dudes and dudettes, I've heard it all before, unless you have some better replies than that, keep your overused lines to yourself. I like Prince's music, especially his outtakes and I want to support him more than the bootleggers, I don't want everything, but I want at least something and we're not even getting that, just the same shit over and over again. I dig Seal, PM Dawn and many other artists, but I dig Prince's music to and I only hate the man's decisions, not him personally. I realize its his music, ultimately, but we're fans and we have supported him for many years now so our opinion should account for something, and not fall on deaf ears. I know I just sound frustrated and I shouldn't take music so seriously, so I ask you to believe me when I say I don't. I don't go ranting and raving to every person at work or on the street about how much of a jackass Prince is, only here among my peers so feel special
I just hate being a fan for so many years, waiting patiently and not bitching like some of the other folks I've seen on here and AMP, and to find out I'm not getting anything for the wait. It sucks, but what can you do right? Hopefully things will change..one of these days. Let me Teeelllsumthin. I am a NEW member and dont have NO npgmc cd's, nor do i really care cuz i have most of the stuff except for a few. It is your choice, not no one else to release stuff. Now first of all Prince maybe NOT ready 2 release EVERYSINGLETHING that he has, what's going to be left for himself? Yall still gonna be begging for more and have more complainers out there even if he DID release it. Hell i bet if he came out with "Prince, All 4 U, my vault o boots". U guys would still be out there throwing it away because "It aint perfect engough" I dont care if he releases that stuff or not. News was good 4 right now. It will last me till next year..im skippin on Chocolate Invasion, now I'm lookin 4ward 2 "Musicology", just move on, damn. Another newbie that doesn't know what the hell he's talking about!  Way to go Rudedog I 100% agree! | |
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All I'm gonna say is that I posted on the NPGMC requesting that this stuff gets a proper release & now it's got a proper release. Call me naieve, but I'm pretty fucking happy about this. End of storey. "You know, you're the classic example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain" | |
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psykosoul said: SquirrelMeat said: psykosoul said: What country do you live in? Do the speak and write in English there? The advertisement plainly states package. But truthfully, the music was intended as the bonus, you were really shelling out $100 to get kick ass seats at a show without knowing what you would get in advance. This really did make me laugh. Your grammar clearly shows you do not have a grasp of the English language, but you throw stones at others! Anyway. So in year 1, the music was a bonus? Please ask any fan outside of the USA who was a member in year 1, how much they enjoyed the world tour that never took place. Sorry Prince and Psyksoul! I'm glad I paid $100 for seats at concerts that never took place! Please Psyksoul, don't dive for cover. Answer these: 1. How can you attack someones grammar, when you first paragraph does not make sense? 2. If Year 1 music was the bonus, what did those outside of the USA pay $100 for? I'm really looking forward to your answer... . Now I understand. What a silly fam I have been... [This message was edited Fri Oct 17 18:36:47 PDT 2003 by SquirrelMeat] Your ranting and ravings about things that don't mean shit in the end make me laugh. A silly little fam you are indeed if you don't have the common sense to not purchase the set if you don't want it. I'm not one of those people who thinks Prince's shit smells like blossoms in bloom. But I don't bitch and cry on a message board when he doesn't do something that I don't approve of. I love the bulk of his material and pretty much want 2/3s of the music in this set. But since I don't have the option to specifically select what I want from the set, I guess I've got no choice to but to decide whether purchasing the set for 2/3s of music will make me happy or leave it alone because that 1/3 that I don't want will haunt me and make my life a living hell for eternity. No need to school me on the intentions of the NPGMC because ultimately, I really don't give a flying fuck. I'm a grown man who can decide how to spend money without complaining when I find that the money wasn't well spent. Any person with common sense knows that if the service and product aren't up to par with their expectations, then that person shouldn't shop at that place again. Don't look forward to a dignified response from me if you don't have the intelligence to make a clear-cut decision. Blar blar blar. Are you going to answer the questions now? . |
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ian said: jthad1129 said: ian said: If Prince just put out a 50 CD box set tomorrow, with EVERYTHING on it, it would not be a profitable venture. On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to place one or two CDs per year - as you rightly said, there is a market for it. Right now, he is young enough and creative enough that he is still capable of producing new music and touring to make a living. What the hell are you talking about, not a profitable venture? If he broght a box set out, of things he recorded in the 70's and 80's it would sell in $$$. That is such the band wagon right now, with VH1 doing the 70's and 80's thing, classic rock shirts, artists doing cover songs (boys of summer, heaven etc)even the Today show this week. He could do press now, about the 20 year old songs. Releasing cds yearly with extra tracks, seems to me like filler bullshit instead of something special. He would look so much better if he said, 'the fans wanted it, so here it is' He would be a player again. If he is still capable of producing new music, why is he touring (again) with a greatest hits line up? You are only as good as your last cd and I can't even remember when that was. My point was precisely this: Prince is still young enough to be capable of putting out new music ("The Rainbow Children", "Xpectation", "News") and of touring in order to make money. He has a way to make money. When he is older, he not be able to do that and may rely more heavily on exploiting his back catalog of unreleased material. The point is that a 50 CD set with all of his unreleased material on it would not be a sensible business decision - he can make more money by looking at the big picture and releasing the music more slowly over many years. It is far too risky to shoot all of your load in one go, and there is no compelling reason to do so. If he really has enough music stashed away to put out a CD or two every year until he drops, he'll never go hungry HE may never go hungry but what about our thirst for music...he's like a whore who fucks u over and over and then expects u to be satisfied with a hand job... | |
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...and on a different tone...He's letting the fauxnewbies catch up with their CD collection. | |
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ian said: You don't seem to be living in the real world. If opinions that you disagree with "make you sick" you really aren't equipped to be on the internet. Turn off your PC now before you have an accident.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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origmnd said: HE may never go hungry but what about our thirst for music...he's like a whore who fucks u over and over and then expects u to be satisfied with a hand job... 
the BEST Prince analogy I think I've heard in a long time ! | |
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jthad1129 said: ian said: If Prince just put out a 50 CD box set tomorrow, with EVERYTHING on it, it would not be a profitable venture. On the other hand, it would be pretty easy to place one or two CDs per year - as you rightly said, there is a market for it. Right now, he is young enough and creative enough that he is still capable of producing new music and touring to make a living. What the hell are you talking about, not a profitable venture? If he broght a box set out, of things he recorded in the 70's and 80's it would sell in $$$. That is such the band wagon right now, with VH1 doing the 70's and 80's thing, classic rock shirts, artists doing cover songs (boys of summer, heaven etc)even the Today show this week. He could do press now, about the 20 year old songs. Releasing cds yearly with extra tracks, seems to me like filler bullshit instead of something special. He would look so much better if he said, 'the fans wanted it, so here it is' He would be a player again. If he is still capable of producing new music, why is he touring (again) with a greatest hits line up? You are only as good as your last cd and I can't even remember when that was. A 50-CD box set? That would be a dream come true
Seriously,Prince really should release more bootleg compilations of his early material.'Crystal Ball' was a step in the right direction but I'd like to see him follow through.Maybe a kickass 3-CD set every year? But include the stuff that fans REALLY wanna hear ("ExtraLoveable","Open Book",etc).If nothing else,Prince will beat the bootleggers at their own game. | |
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