Why is it when people begin 2 dicuss about God in their Music, people get offended, but when People dicuss things about sex and Violence it's okay??

During the years when Prince was singing about everything sex, violence, drugs or rock n roll, he was in the hieght of his popularity, and he gain alot more respect from his fans, however.

Every since Prince has become more religious/spiritaul,alot of fans has lost alot of respect for him or he lost a alot of fans, because of the religious aspect in his music, period...

I think Prince has always been religious/spiritaul from the start, but he never reall shown that side of him before, because maybe he already knew what the outcome from his fans, if he would've become religious a long time ago.

I think I remembr Prince stated that when he wrote The Cross, it was originally titled The Christ, but he didn't want 2 release it as The Christ, becaus he knew it put alot of fear in2 people hearts.

Now I believe Prince is beyond what others may think of him, which is why he maybe expressing his beliefs on God through his music. 2 tell you the truth, I've been a fan every since forever, but I've gained more respect for him, because I see he's doing things from his heart, rather then fame or popularity.

I don't think he's shoving down his religion down peoples throat like some people may precieve. I think he's just expressing apart of himself he may not have been able 2 in the past.

I am a person who believes in God. I see myself as a very spiritaul person. Whenever I talk with someone, God often comes up in the conversation. I don't try 2 make people believe what I believe but it always been something I have been passionat about and...

When u're passionate about somethig, regardles of what it is, you will go out through any links 2 make sure people feel what u feel. Sometimes we maye get a little carred away with it.I don't know Prince at all, but I can easily see where his passion lies, which is in God and in his music and I respect that a great deal. Even though I may not agree.

I feel as if Prince is more comfortable at who he is now then ever before and he's doing what he's always wanted 2 do, but wasn't able to, because of creavtive control.

Yet we don't respect 4 whatever reasons that maybe be...

This is why I've asked the previous question, why r offended when a Person truly express who they r ,especailly if it has something 2 do with God??

As I've said in a simmilar themed thread: Prince fans are bitchy...deal with it.

Adding to that, I think the reason why people get so upset is because they've become accustomed to the whole "sex-maniac-funky-guy-from-uptown" thing. This isn't the first time people have been offended by his music. People were offended when "dirty mind" came out, people were offended whne ATWIAD came out, people were offended when "diamonds and pearls" came out.
Prince is an everchanging *artist*. Whenever he tries/does something new some get mad because they've gotten used to the past work.


Anyway, many people/fans don't agree with the Jehova Religion, that's why they're upset. Many people have a misconception of what that religion is about. They have these inaccorate thoughts about the religion and automaticly assume that that's what it's all about.
I also think that Prince's past work has attracted a certain kind of audience, someone who isn't afraid to talk about God and Sex in the same sentance, someone who's very openminded, and someone who's quite rebelious.
In the past Prince has included God and spirituality in his music, but ahs always balanced it out with sex/love/lust.
Now that he's gotten rid of the sex/lust thing He mainly focuses on God/spirituality, and frankly, some fans who are so caught up in the lyrics don't wanna hear that on everything he releases.

Anyone who honestly likes his music now is either because of the lyrics, the music, or both.

Quite frankly, I'm not a big fan of the lyrics, but I am of the music.

My response to the people who constantly whine and complain is this: Shut up and iisten to "Purple Rain" or something, 'cause believe or not, P's not gonna be going back to his past work/style anytime soon.

So that's my opinon on this.

In response to your post, which brings up a good point, I can only say 2 things.

First, the "The Christ is unlikely, since it is grammatically incorrect, and not appealing enough to warrant any artistic linsence...

As far as why it seems to bother everyone, I think it's because Prince used to explore that divide between being naughty and being righteous...a struggle most people deal with to some degree...there was an intensity born out of that divide...a sexual tension, if you will, between the two. That is exciting to hear...preaching, however, just comes across as self-righteous and judgemental, whether the deliverer intends it to or not. No one wants to be made to feel guilty, especially not by the grandmaster of the darker sides of passion...

Thanks for the thought provoking post!

Prince has gone through these changes before,however there were no forums for "fans" to address their concerns.Now,the forums are just as much a problem creating dissent as the music is.Many people instead of judging Prince's music on their own experences will come here or to another site and read what others have posted .Thus the objectivity of his or her own experence is tainted.

The religous issues are going to be debated simply because Prince is seen as the SEX part of Sex,Drugs,& Rock &roll.He sold many records because of this.Prince has also been a very bad person toward those who "loved" him.The past decade has seen him go from being one of the highest paid acts in music to exile.Prince has lost children(people forget that Troy Beyer was pregnate by Prince),loss parents,loss his wife.

These things will break you down and force you to come to grips with reality.


I am glad to see Prince being creative with his "freedom"
People on this site complained for 3 years about a piano album.People complained about a jazz album,People complained about a live album.Guess what? We got all of the above.Many people missed this because they were complaining.

All I can say is enjoy the ride or get off the ride.

DigitalLisa said:

One of the best posts/threads in a LONG time.

why r offended when a Person truly express who they r ,especailly if it has something 2 do with God?? JW and P too now think and preach that to vote is to go against God , that we should live in a theocratic order ( à la jw of course) that's their right, I just think that it's silly and dangerous

muleFunk said:

The truth is, we've all done something wrong in our past, however, Prince is seen differently.cuz of the simple fact he's a celebrity. I think Prince is aware of his wrongs doings he's done in the past, which is probably the reason why he turned 2 religion in the first place.Most of the time when people are looking for religion, it's always because they need help, they're trying 2 find a deeper meaning in life or they want redemption of their souls. I know Prince ain't perfect and has done some wrong doings. but who am I 2 judge him of his past?

(4 it's better 2 love then 2 hate)

Prince is one of the most talented musicains of our time. If he pass away he'll be legendary, if he ain't already. Most people I've come across who ain't even prince fans seem 2 appreciate his work more then his officail fans do. I guess at times, the longer you've been a fan, the more you feel as if you have some senority over the music .
But the truth is, when it really comes down to it, it's either you are a fan or you ain't, you either support him or don't. It's either you love him or you hate him and that not only gives balance 2 his career, but also 2 his music. All I know of him, is the gift he shares with the world and the only thing I will judge him by other is the true musician he is from the heart.

All I got 2 say is, turn up the amps 2 ur guitar and play on brotha, play on...


[This message was edited Sun Jul 6 1:48:46 PDT 2003 by DigitalLisa]

Exactly !

I think the majority of the problem with Prince & his recent naysayers comes from the JW issue.Personally,I dont care what he does as long as he is not hurting someone or himself.

I wonder what would happen if ppl made remarks toward Jews or Churches of Christ or any other sect like what has been said toward the JW's?

Peace my sister.

I think Prince is aware of his wrongs doings he's done in the past, which is probably the reason why he turned 2 religion in the first place that's senseless, what do you mean?

It seems there is very little knowledge of Prince's history among some of the acolytes on this thread.
If Prince released 'The Second Coming' (1981), 'Annie Christian' (1980), 'God' (1984) or even the 'Coming Soon' backwards gospel chant (1984) these days, people would be sayin on this site that it was just too much to deal with - but these songs, and many more, were written during his so-called 'purple period'.
It is not religion which had been slowly phased into Prince's music, it is the freaky sex fiend which has been fazed out...and let's face it he's already touched every base there already.
He's trying hard to move on lyrically and musically...and he knows that a 45-year-old man (as youthful as he looks) singing about head and doing it all night in every song is borderline creepy. And yawn-inducing to boot.
With Rave he tried to get his fans back with a consise pop/r n'b release - and whilst the old theory still abides that if it was a newcomer it would be un aminously lauded -for the most part it was deeply disappointing. You can easily hear the man's lethargy on tunes like Hot Wit U and Undisputed. His heart just wasn't in it.
Playin the sex god is just not where he's at now...and he never will again. As always, it's weird scenes from inside the goldmine...but he's still got my ear.
[This message was edited Sun Jul 6 3:56:40 PDT 2003 by Number23]

I think a lot of the problem with P.'s current attitute does not lie in the simple fact that it is religious (because it has already been pointed out that that is certainly not a first), but his current views seem more divisive. "Lovesexy" was highly religious/spritual but it was a more inclusive. Black or white, straight or gay, it didn't matter we all had a place to belong in the spritual orders and therories alluded to. In the case of recent work, that does not seem to be the case. THAT seems to me to be what is ruffling people's feathers so much.
Also P's new view seems to have consumed his music, most of it is a forum for his religious views of the moment. Not only did we lose the freaky sex fiend, we lost a good part of the balladeer,political commentator, novelty, and funk rocker as well. I could understand how people could feel the views are forced down their throat, as we are used to albums with songs of a wider range of both musical styles and subject matter.
[This message was edited Sun Jul 6 5:05:55 PDT 2003 by AprilMichelle]

AprilMichelle said:

origmnd said:

I 2nd that

roverlo said:

Harlepolis said:

Thanks everybody, this is something I've been noticing and just wanted 2 express how I feel on the matter