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Reply #30 posted 04/20/24 10:22am

whodknee

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40 isn't a major anniversary year so why all the noise about another Purple Rain release? I can't get excited about this when we just got a deluxe release of this era a couple of years ago. Sure they could make it bigger and better but they should wait until the 50th for that. I'd rather focus on other albums in the interim. Give me a Lovesexy/Black Album SDE first.

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Reply #31 posted 04/20/24 12:57pm

SoulAlive

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I'm not to bothered about the live content. For me it's all about the vault material. I really want to hear Blue Love.

I didn't recognize that song title,so I looked it up on Princevault.

Blue Love is an unreleased song tracked and overdubbed on 28 December 1983 at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, California, during the same session that yielded The Glamorous Life and Next Time Wipe The Lipstick Off Your Collar. The upbeat song consist of a Linn drum pattern, bass, Oberheim synth, and piano and has multiple layers of Prince. The lyrics tell the story of someone reflecting on a weekend love affair, describing the passion of a Saturday night, the mystical feeling of being with his partner on Sunday morning, and then how they are gone by Monday. The track was further worked on in March when a harp was added but remains unreleased.

YES! I wanna hear it too smile Prince was writing and producing so much music during that period (1983/84),I bet there are a ton of uncirculating tracks from that era.

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Reply #32 posted 04/20/24 2:37pm

happyshopper

JorisE73 said:





I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.



I think you’re confusing that with Netflix having a contract to show the footage first, as part of a documentary that The Estate is now blocking.
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Reply #33 posted 04/20/24 10:48pm

funkbabyandthe
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rap said:

Does anyone know if the music from the basement scene "She's crying, it's backwards", is a fully fledged song and has a name?



I want this/more of it too.
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Reply #34 posted 04/21/24 4:21pm

rap

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

rap said:

Does anyone know if the music from the basement scene "She's crying, it's backwards", is a fully fledged song and has a name?

I want this/more of it too.

yes yes

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Reply #35 posted 04/22/24 1:01am

JorisE73

happyshopper said:

JorisE73 said:



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

I think you’re confusing that with Netflix having a contract to show the footage first, as part of a documentary that The Estate is now blocking.


Yes, maybe.
I just checked google and saw articles about Apple maybe getting the rights to it from May5th 2017

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Reply #36 posted 04/22/24 3:30am

bizzie

https://variety.com/2018/...203011709/

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A source also told Variety that a documentary about Prince and the Revolution’s legendary concert at Minneapolis’ First Avenue in August of 1983 has landed at Apple Music.

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Reply #37 posted 04/24/24 7:39am

Vannormal

bizzie said:

https://variety.com/2018/...203011709/

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A source also told Variety that a documentary about Prince and the Revolution’s legendary concert at Minneapolis’ First Avenue in August of 1983 has landed at Apple Music.

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does this mean they can't use it?

I'm not an expert at this...

does it mean that MakingMillioon has to share the profits of it's posible release on PR SDE with Apple?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #38 posted 04/24/24 9:10am

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I'm really only interested in a PR SDE if it contains a bunch of unknown vault tracks we've never heard of before. The set should feature the 5 mind-blowing unreleased songs from the PR era that Morris Hayes mentioned, as well as G-Spot the extended version of 17 Days.
[Edited 4/24/24 9:22am]
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #39 posted 04/24/24 1:05pm

Vannormal

MIRvmn1 said:

I'm really only interested in a PR SDE if it contains a bunch of unknown vault tracks we've never heard of before. The set should feature the 5 mind-blowing unreleased songs from the PR era that Morris Hayes mentioned, as well as G-Spot the extended version of 17 Days. [Edited 4/24/24 9:22am]

what are the names of these 5 mind-blowing songs?

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Reply #40 posted 04/24/24 2:13pm

MIRvmn1

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Vannormal said:



MIRvmn1 said:


I'm really only interested in a PR SDE if it contains a bunch of unknown vault tracks we've never heard of before. The set should feature the 5 mind-blowing unreleased songs from the PR era that Morris Hayes mentioned, as well as G-Spot the extended version of 17 Days. [Edited 4/24/24 9:22am]

what are the names of these 5 mind-blowing songs?


Morris Hayes never mentioned the names of these songs, he just said that they are better than anything on PR.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #41 posted 04/24/24 2:18pm

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

The tapes for these 5 incredible songs has probably oxidised or eroded or whatever the right term is forold magnetic tape decomposure

Thats the cynical prince fan talking

The optimistic prince fan thinks its a pr sde, theres no way it cant have some great surprises
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Reply #42 posted 04/25/24 1:57pm

December1984

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Apollonia 6 - Remastered with outtakes (“Manic Monday,” Brenda’s version of “17 Days”)

Ice Cream Castle - Remastered with b-sides and outtakes (“Tricky,” studio version of “The Bird”)

Strange Tales from the Rain as a RSD release. Ideally, with a CD or streaming version.

Considering “Sex Shooter” and “Jungle Love” appeared on Originals, I’d assume there are Prince-vocal versions of everything from Ice Cream Castle and the Apollonia 6 album.

And although it doesn’t have a connection to the Purple Rain movie, Sheila E’s debut album came out that year. I’d love to see it remastered with non-album tracks (“Too Sexy,” the dance mix of “Belle of St Mark”), and the Prince-vocal versions!

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Reply #43 posted 04/25/24 4:19pm

RODSERLING

whodknee said:

Sure they could make it bigger and better but they should wait until the 50th for that. I'd rather focus on other albums in the interim. Give me a Lovesexy/Black Album SDE first.


You re so right.
They should wait until the 100th anniversary,this or else the 10,000th anniversary.
In this day and age to come, no vinyls, no CD, no streaming, the PR SDE will be just a file in a chip put inside your head (or worst).
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Reply #44 posted 04/26/24 1:38am

Vannormal

December1984 said:

Apollonia 6 - Remastered with outtakes (“Manic Monday,” Brenda’s version of “17 Days”)

Ice Cream Castle - Remastered with b-sides and outtakes (“Tricky,” studio version of “The Bird”)

Strange Tales from the Rain as a RSD release. Ideally, with a CD or streaming version.

Considering “Sex Shooter” and “Jungle Love” appeared on Originals, I’d assume there are Prince-vocal versions of everything from Ice Cream Castle and the Apollonia 6 album.

And although it doesn’t have a connection to the Purple Rain movie, Sheila E’s debut album came out that year. I’d love to see it remastered with non-album tracks (“Too Sexy,” the dance mix of “Belle of St Mark”), and the Prince-vocal versions!

Also that.

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Actually, besides all we want, and what we know excist,

they should FOR ONCE do a serious surprise!

But I mean a serious surprise.

I'm convinced there is a lot in that vault.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #45 posted 04/26/24 12:40pm

SoulAlive

December1984 said:

Apollonia 6 - Remastered with outtakes (“Manic Monday,” Brenda’s version of “17 Days”)

Ice Cream Castle - Remastered with b-sides and outtakes (“Tricky,” studio version of “The Bird”)

Strange Tales from the Rain as a RSD release. Ideally, with a CD or streaming version.

Considering “Sex Shooter” and “Jungle Love” appeared on Originals, I’d assume there are Prince-vocal versions of everything from Ice Cream Castle and the Apollonia 6 album.

And although it doesn’t have a connection to the Purple Rain movie, Sheila E’s debut album came out that year. I’d love to see it remastered with non-album tracks (“Too Sexy,” the dance mix of “Belle of St Mark”), and the Prince-vocal versions!

Those are some great ideas.

I have another idea for a RSD release: a colored 12" vinyl of "Computer Blue (hallway version)" with "G-Spot" on the B-side.

Brenda Bennett recently said there are some upcoming things regarding Apollonia 6.She didn't go into detail but I hope it's related to the possible 40th Anniversary Purple Rain SDE.

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Reply #46 posted 04/26/24 12:44pm

SoulAlive

RODSERLING said:

whodknee said:
Sure they could make it bigger and better but they should wait until the 50th for that. I'd rather focus on other albums in the interim.
You re so right. They should wait until the 100th anniversary,this or else the 10,000th anniversary.

I'd rather they release it sooner rather than later.The longtime fans aren't getting any younger smile

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Reply #47 posted 04/26/24 12:56pm

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A 12" Box ( lol )

Seriously, though...

"When Doves Cry (Album Version) b/w "17 Days (Extended Version)"

"Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix)" b/w "Erotic City 'make love...'")

"Purple Rain (Full Version [here's where the estate gets a great editor/mixer])" b/w "God"/"God (Love Theme from...")

"I Would Die 4 U (Extended Rehearsal Mix) b/w "Another Lonely Christmas"

"Take Me With U (Full Version)" b/w "Computer Blue (Full Version)"

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #48 posted 04/27/24 12:51am

Vannormal

nayroo2002 said:

A 12" Box ( lol )

Seriously, though...

"When Doves Cry (Album Version) b/w "17 Days (Extended Version)"

"Let's Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix)" b/w "Erotic City 'make love...'")

"Purple Rain (Full Version [here's where the estate gets a great editor/mixer])" b/w "God"/"God (Love Theme from...")

"I Would Die 4 U (Extended Rehearsal Mix) b/w "Another Lonely Christmas"

"Take Me With U (Full Version)" b/w "Computer Blue (Full Version)"

Why?

...we (nearly) have all this, except for TMWU Full Version...

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #49 posted 04/27/24 12:53am

Vannormal

SoulAlive said:

December1984 said:

Apollonia 6 - Remastered with outtakes (“Manic Monday,” Brenda’s version of “17 Days”)

Ice Cream Castle - Remastered with b-sides and outtakes (“Tricky,” studio version of “The Bird”)

Strange Tales from the Rain as a RSD release. Ideally, with a CD or streaming version.

Considering “Sex Shooter” and “Jungle Love” appeared on Originals, I’d assume there are Prince-vocal versions of everything from Ice Cream Castle and the Apollonia 6 album.

And although it doesn’t have a connection to the Purple Rain movie, Sheila E’s debut album came out that year. I’d love to see it remastered with non-album tracks (“Too Sexy,” the dance mix of “Belle of St Mark”), and the Prince-vocal versions!

Those are some great ideas.

I have another idea for a RSD release: a colored 12" vinyl of "Computer Blue (hallway version)" with "G-Spot" on the B-side.

Brenda Bennett recently said there are some upcoming things regarding Apollonia 6.

She didn't go into detail but I hope it's related to the possible 40th Anniversary Purple Rain SDE.

Good idea about this RSD release... biggrin

And I didn't know Brenda said that. Source?

Thank you. smile

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Reply #50 posted 04/27/24 12:20pm

SoulAlive

Vannormal said:

SoulAlive said:

Those are some great ideas.

I have another idea for a RSD release: a colored 12" vinyl of "Computer Blue (hallway version)" with "G-Spot" on the B-side.

Brenda Bennett recently said there are some upcoming things regarding Apollonia 6.

She didn't go into detail but I hope it's related to the possible 40th Anniversary Purple Rain SDE.

Good idea about this RSD release... biggrin

And I didn't know Brenda said that. Source?

Thank you. smile

Brenda Bennett discusses ...k-by-track smile

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Reply #51 posted 04/27/24 1:09pm

fredmagnus

I'd suggest them to stop trying to fit everything on vinyls and fill those CDs to the max.

That doesn't mean there shouldn't have a vinyl box set though. Just that it doesn't need to have all the outakes on it.
[Edited 4/27/24 13:10pm]
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Reply #52 posted 04/27/24 1:58pm

Vannormal

SoulAlive said:

Vannormal said:

Good idea about this RSD release... biggrin

And I didn't know Brenda said that. Source?

Thank you. smile

Brenda Bennett discusses ...k-by-track smile

Thankj you so much! smile

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Reply #53 posted 04/28/24 2:23am

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Do u really thing that a real definitive SDE of PR will see the light of day this year eek ?....i have at this stage lay down all my expectations about it ! confused

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Reply #54 posted 04/28/24 1:31pm

Vannormal

Honestly, I have NO expectations at all.

And the element of surpise, doesn't surprise me anymore.

Not at my age. ;-

And honestly, I'm at a point where I don't care anymore what they release.

My purple thrill is (far) gone.

Things I like to see released is everything till 1990, in SDE format, with a more original approach.

Not just the classic form of a SDE as we know it.

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Reply #55 posted 04/30/24 2:23am

JorisE73

Vannormal said:

Honestly, I have NO expectations at all.

And the element of surpise, doesn't surprise me anymore.

Not at my age. ;-

And honestly, I'm at a point where I don't care anymore what they release.

My purple thrill is (far) gone.

Things I like to see released is everything till 1990, in SDE format, with a more original approach.

Not just the classic form of a SDE as we know it.


same here, I've had my fair share of surprises (good and bad ones) from Prince over the last 50 years. More surprising as the 80s and 90s it will never get.
These days I just take it all that is releaed in and revisit my old tapes until they become obsololete.

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Reply #56 posted 04/30/24 9:17am

Vannormal

JorisE73 said:

Vannormal said:

Honestly, I have NO expectations at all.

And the element of surpise, doesn't surprise me anymore.

Not at my age. ;-

And honestly, I'm at a point where I don't care anymore what they release.

My purple thrill is (far) gone.

Things I like to see released is everything till 1990, in SDE format, with a more original approach.

Not just the classic form of a SDE as we know it.

same here, I've had my fair share of surprises (good and bad ones) from Prince over the last 50 years. More surprising as the 80s and 90s it will never get.
These days I just take it all that is releaed in and revisit my old tapes until they become obsololete.

And you know what?

I (still) discover good stuff amonst my big collection.

Especially in live bootlegs, i haven't listend to in ages.

Same for the BFTP series.

Plus here still is so much out there to be found.

So my element of surprise is rather there... in my own goddman Prince collection. biggrin

And, the fun of digging up a vinyl or CD here and there in second hand (or record) stores.

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Fuck The Estate! ...for not releasing anything, and certainly for NOT communicating with us!

We, the goddman steady waiting phat wallets!

There, I said it. biggrin

(I feel relieved now).

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Reply #57 posted 04/30/24 11:49am

fredmagnus

Here are some of the outakes/originals/alternate that should be included on the PR SDE :

Outakes :

Blue Love

I Am Five

All Day All Night

G-Spot (Original Demo)

Chocolate

Wednesday

Mia Bocca

The Belle Of Saint-Marc

The Glamorous Life (Full length Version)

Sex Shooter (Extended Version)

Blue Limousine

A Million Miles I Love You (Full Length Version)

Ice Cream Castles

My Summertime Thang

Sugar Walls

Moral Majority

The Dance Electric #2

Purple Rain (Full Version)

The Beautiful Ones (Full Length Version)

Darling Nikky (Full length Version)

When Doves Cry (Original Version)

17 Days (Extended Version)

The Dawn (Instrumental)

Trafic Jam (Instrumental)

Divinity (Instrumental)

Be My Hero (Instrumental)

My Love Belongs 2 U (Instrumental)

Wet Dream Cousin (Instrumental)

Billy (Rehearsal)

+ Every unknown outake they've found.

In bold the ones i want the most to be included.

[Edited 5/1/24 0:13am]

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Reply #58 posted 04/30/24 2:51pm

FrankieCoco1

Also looking at Prince Vault for unreleased songs from 1983/early 1984

Electrocution is an unreleased instrumental recorded at some point in 1983 at Prince’s Kiowa Trail Home Studio.

I Know What To Say To You is an unreleased song recorded with Stevie Nicks on 16 July 1983, at the Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. The song is sparse and somewhat experimental with only drums from the Linn and layers of synth.


My Sex (a.k.a. May I Introduce My Sex To Yours?) is an unreleased song initially likely recorded somewhere in Spring 1983…Jill Jones has said “It was a really cool freaking song and he didn’t want that to come out at all. Ever!”

Fox Trap is an unreleased song recorded in 1982 at Prince’s Kiowa Trail Home Studio in Chanhassen, Minnesota. It is likely…the track was named after The Fox Trap that Prince visited regularly in the late 1970s and early 1980s…the inspiration for a club featured in the Purple Rain movie.

Backwards Woman is a composition created for the film Purple Rain, tracked on 8 February 1984…it is the only composition from the score that is written by Prince and not Michel Colombier who did the rest of the score.
It is the music used under the scene where Apollonia first visits The Kid's home and presses play on a cassette deck which has a tape with this music playing…about a minute and a half of it is featured in the movie.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #59 posted 04/30/24 3:36pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Backwards Woman is a composition created for the film Purple Rain, tracked on 8 February 1984…it is the only composition from the score that is written by Prince and not Michel Colombier who did the rest of the score. It is the music used under the scene where Apollonia first visits The Kid's home and presses play on a cassette deck which has a tape with this music playing…about a minute and a half of it is featured in the movie.

i love all that freaky Prince stuff, but this is over-the-top freaky!

Back in the day, i recorded that scene with my boom box and tediously turned the tape upside down in the cassette to play back the backward recording.

It's Jill actually crying and saying, "No! I don't want to break up!"

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we all need 2 b friends"
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