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Reply #90 posted 10/27/23 1:03pm

happyshopper

Darkside also makes me wish for versions like this of songs we know.
Prince fleshing out songs, trying things out, humming parts he wants to add later and rough vocals.
Better than tracks that weren’t intended for this album. (I’ll take those on another Originals release)
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Reply #91 posted 10/27/23 1:19pm

TrivialPursuit

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happyshopper said:

Darkside also makes me wish for versions like this of songs we know. Prince fleshing out songs, trying things out, humming parts he wants to add later and rough vocals. Better than tracks that weren’t intended for this album. (I’ll take those on another Originals release)


"Blood on the Sheets" is the more fleshed out version, but still without lyrics. Man, it really needs it. It's just riiiight there.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #92 posted 10/27/23 1:21pm

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lustmealways said:

I Pledge Allegiance shades of Satisfied.


I said the same thing, and frankly this one is better than "Satisfied."

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #93 posted 10/27/23 1:22pm

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I was sharing with Fenwick my first-listen thoughts last night and put them into a Google doc here.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #94 posted 10/27/23 1:57pm

Landonfunkmonk
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Hey U.
Fantastic stuff.

Addictive.

Kind of reminds me Get Yo Groove on.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #95 posted 10/27/23 2:01pm

LILpoundCAKE

"Trouble" keeps hitting me like a brick in the head.

In a good way.

In a very good way.

dancing jig


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Reply #96 posted 10/27/23 2:16pm

happyshopper

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Hey U.
Fantastic stuff.

Addictive.

Kind of reminds me Get Yo Groove on.


Is that a good thing!?
eek wink

Actually, I quite like this track, but similar vibe to Cream, which may be why it was rejected for the album.
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Reply #97 posted 10/27/23 2:19pm

happyshopper

LILpoundCAKE said:

"Trouble" keeps hitting me like a brick in the head.

In a good way.

In a very good way.

dancing jig




Reminds me of Janet Jackson. Rhythm Nation type drums.
Not a bad thing, but not my favourite track.
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Reply #98 posted 10/27/23 2:34pm

dodger07

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Hey U.
Fantastic stuff.

Addictive.

Kind of reminds me Get Yo Groove on.


Agree
Cool to hear the same sample from Gangster Glam and the ‘make it mellow’ break down he used in Everybody Get Up on the Act I tour
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Reply #99 posted 10/27/23 2:44pm

FrankieCoco1

Still waiting for my package, damn posties!

Is the book any good and have any new nuggets of information or is it just guff?
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #100 posted 10/27/23 3:15pm

antonb

Mines arriving tomorrow
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Reply #101 posted 10/27/23 3:23pm

MIRvmn1

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Imagine how much better D&P would have been if Jughead and Push was replaced with The Last Dance and Something Funky (This House Comes) smile
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #102 posted 10/27/23 3:50pm

SmalleyBiggs

TrivialPursuit said:

lustmealways said:

I Pledge Allegiance shades of Satisfied.


I said the same thing, and frankly this one is better than "Satisfied."

Am I the only idiot who assumed I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO YOUR LOVE was the classic unreleased song ALLEGIANCE?

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Reply #103 posted 10/27/23 5:54pm

TrivialPursuit

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SmalleyBiggs said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I said the same thing, and frankly this one is better than "Satisfied."

Am I the only idiot who assumed I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO YOUR LOVE was the classic unreleased song ALLEGIANCE?


No, because that was recorded around the same time. I mean, how many damn songs have "Baby," "Girl," or Love and Sex" as the title w/ that guy? lol

Princevault notes:

Basic tracking for Prince’s original version took place on 1 October 1991 at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota (the day after Letter 4 Miles, the same day as the release of Prince and the New Power Generation’s album Diamonds And Pearls and the recording of Do U Wanna Rock?, I Pledge Allegiance To Your Love and Sweet Baby, two days before recording The Thunder Ballet).


Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #104 posted 10/27/23 6:57pm

Neves26

The remaster sounds great!
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Reply #105 posted 10/27/23 7:14pm

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It was a nice choice of unreleased tracks. Good job estate.

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Reply #106 posted 10/27/23 7:29pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

It was a nice choice of unreleased tracks. Good job estate.


2 of the 3 vault disks are under an hour, the other is barely over that.

Why isn't that other version of "Willing and Able" in there? or more mixes of "Gett Off," and the EP of "Cream?" There was plenty of room for some more stuff.

I mostly like what's there, but they slipped on a few tracks.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #107 posted 10/27/23 7:32pm

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MIRvmn1 said:

Imagine how much better D&P would have been if Jughead and Push was replaced with The Last Dance and Something Funky (This House Comes) smile


I have thought the same question all day long.
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Reply #108 posted 10/27/23 7:43pm

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Hearing Diamonds and Pearls long version brought tears to my eyes.

I remember going to Tower Records after hearing that this version was on the Diamonds and Pearls CD single and being royally disappointed when it wasn't.
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Reply #109 posted 10/27/23 8:55pm

WhiteSandsHide
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TrivialPursuit said:



paisleyparkgirl said:


It was a nice choice of unreleased tracks. Good job estate.




2 of the 3 vault disks are under an hour, the other is barely over that.

Why isn't that other version of "Willing and Able" in there? or more mixes of "Gett Off," and the EP of "Cream?" There was plenty of room for some more stuff.

I mostly like what's there, but they slipped on a few tracks.




The only reasoning to this I can think of is because they are wanting to fit these things in the vinyl version.. I wish more than anything they would make an “ultimate expanded edition” (or some other title) CD version and stack that thing up to its limit..

I long for an 18 cd set like Dylan has for his “the cutting edge” bootleg series
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Reply #110 posted 10/27/23 9:23pm

SanDiegoFunkDa
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Its missing the MTV performance. The highlight of the whole project

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Reply #111 posted 10/27/23 10:17pm

Neves26

muleFunk said:

Hearing Diamonds and Pearls long version brought tears to my eyes.

I remember going to Tower Records after hearing that this version was on the Diamonds and Pearls CD single and being royally disappointed when it wasn't.


I def shed a tear as well. Ive been waiting so long to heat it that I broke down
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Reply #112 posted 10/27/23 10:41pm

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Bruh.. reading a lot of y’all’s comments.. I’m actually shocked.. the vault material in this set is great.. if these tracks had (87) dated next to them y’all would be fawning.. if anything this has taught me not to read comments here before actually listening..
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Reply #113 posted 10/27/23 10:44pm

Landonfunkmonk
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TrivialPursuit said:



SmalleyBiggs said:




TrivialPursuit said:




I said the same thing, and frankly this one is better than "Satisfied."



Am I the only idiot who assumed I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO YOUR LOVE was the classic unreleased song ALLEGIANCE?




No, because that was recorded around the same time. I mean, how many damn songs have "Baby," "Girl," or Love and Sex" as the title w/ that guy? lol

Princevault notes:

Basic tracking for Prince’s original version took place on 1 October 1991 at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota (the day after Letter 4 Miles, the same day as the release of Prince and the New Power Generation’s album Diamonds And Pearls and the recording of Do U Wanna Rock?, I Pledge Allegiance To Your Love and Sweet Baby, two days before recording The Thunder Ballet).




On Facebook Duane said Allegiance was from 1988. Hence why it wasn't included.

Maybe Princevault is incorrect
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #114 posted 10/27/23 11:40pm

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Work that fat is a great novelty track. Why this got shelved but other (more polished obv) borderline novelty songs like sexy mf and my name is prince even, got released (as singles!), idk. Id have preferred some of these songs like streetwalker or laurianne as b sides over all the remixes.
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Reply #115 posted 10/27/23 11:44pm

Whiskas31

I knew Prince was trying to play catch up with New Jack Swing sounds of the 90's, but listening to the vault tracks it seems he had completely lost confidence in his own abilities.

Songs like 'Don't Say You Love Me' and 'Spirit' are just complete generic rip offs of better NJS songs, while some real gems like 'Open Book', 'Pain', 'Something Funky This Way Comes' and 'Get Blue' to name a few were completely passed over to cater for NJS lite stuff such as Jughead and Daddy Pop.

I think this is the only time in Prince's career where he was trying to copy rather than innovate, and some of the more soulful and funky vault stuff would have complemented the better D&P tracks (i.e. the funk soul and blues ones) than the ones trying to follow modern trends. Kind of glad they got this era out the way, as hopefully we can finally get a Parade Deluxe edition.

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Reply #116 posted 10/28/23 12:01am

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WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:

if these tracks had (87) dated next to them y’all would be fawning..


100% but the clowns would never admit it. It's much more fun for them to just slam everything to try and make them feel a bit better about their own pathetic lives.
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Reply #117 posted 10/28/23 12:34am

dodger07

muleFunk said:

MIRvmn1 said:

Imagine how much better D&P would have been if Jughead and Push was replaced with The Last Dance and Something Funky (This House Comes) smile


I have thought the same question all day long.


This version of Something Funky would’ve been a great way to showcase the new band. It’s pure funk. The groove, the drums, Sonny’s bass solo, the chants. Like some 90’s James Brown. Shame Rosie didn’t record her bits though
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Reply #118 posted 10/28/23 1:08am

Landonfunkmonk
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Streetwalker is getting better with each listen.



For me this is as good and as important as the other deluxe sets.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #119 posted 10/28/23 2:29am

LILpoundCAKE

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Streetwalker is getting better with each listen. For me this is as good and as important as the other deluxe sets.


Streetwalker has great energy.

It's like a mix between Trust /When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes / BigHouse

with the lyrics being a bit similar in theme to Yo Mister.


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