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7souls

The album he was born to make

"The album he was born to make" tagline was given to Emancipation, but I don't think it was well deserved. Which one album would you give this to?
I would give it to Dirty Mind. Not because it was his best, but because that's the album he told the world he was not just going to play it safe with another For You or self-titled rated PG softball follow-up.
Runner up would be Crystal Ball/SOTT due to the organic feel and unbelievable level of output.
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Reply #1 posted 11/29/23 11:57am

lustmealways

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Planet Earth

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Reply #2 posted 11/29/23 12:40pm

thisisreece

New Power Soul
Hundalasiliah!
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Reply #3 posted 11/29/23 12:41pm

TrivialPursuit

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He was born to make music.


That tagline is simply because he was out of his record contract. He was born to make music as a free agent. We get it, but it was corny.

He was born to channel music from some otherworldly place. And he did that every time he sat down to play and record.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 11/29/23 2:40pm

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Lovesexy is the one.
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Reply #5 posted 11/29/23 3:10pm

EnglishGent2

All of them.

The orger formerly known as https://prince.org/profil...nglishGent
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Reply #6 posted 11/29/23 7:29pm

AllSe7en

NEWS
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Reply #7 posted 11/29/23 10:37pm

andrewm7new

For you,Emancipation and Dirty mind do have a very personal feeling involved with identity, like they are saying this is me and hee is my work.

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Reply #8 posted 11/29/23 11:51pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

He was born to make music.


That tagline is simply because he was out of his record contract. He was born to make music as a free agent. We get it, but it was corny.

He was born to channel music from some otherworldly place. And he did that every time he sat down to play and record.


This.

This is corny as well, but I would say he was born to play every note he played in his life, in the sense that there was an intentionality behind everything he did that I haven't witnessed in many other artists. That was not always a guarantee of artistic quality, of course, but on average it made his musical output worthy of interest even on his worst days.

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Reply #9 posted 11/30/23 1:35am

Vannormal

Purple Rain.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #10 posted 11/30/23 2:03am

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for you.

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Reply #11 posted 11/30/23 2:17am

ecnirp04

The next one ?

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Reply #12 posted 11/30/23 6:55am

GustavoRibas

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Sign O The Times is a good sample of Prince at his best. Even the lyrics were better than usual.

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Reply #13 posted 11/30/23 7:32am

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TrivialPursuit said:

He was born to make music.


That tagline is simply because he was out of his record contract. He was born to make music as a free agent. We get it, but it was corny.

He was born to channel music from some otherworldly place. And he did that every time he sat down to play and record.

Yep.

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Reply #14 posted 12/02/23 9:22pm

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SOTT

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Reply #15 posted 12/03/23 10:06am

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7souls said:

"The album he was born to make" tagline was given to Emancipation, but I don't think it was well deserved. Which one album would you give this to? I would give it to Dirty Mind. Not because it was his best, but because that's the album he told the world he was not just going to play it safe with another For You or self-titled rated PG softball follow-up. Runner up would be Crystal Ball/SOTT due to the organic feel and unbelievable level of output.


Well, Prince himself said it about Emancipation, so to him, it was the album he was born to make. Regardless of how any of us feel, in his mind, he believed that.

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Reply #16 posted 12/03/23 11:12am

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it was the album O-+-> was born to make, not necessarily prince smile

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Reply #17 posted 12/04/23 2:20pm

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

it was the album O-+-> was born to make, not necessarily prince smile


Semantics, and irrelevant.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #18 posted 12/04/23 2:24pm

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Fenwick and I were going over Emancipation today, and the fluff on it. We wanted to pick the very best songs (for us) to make one CD. Yes, I know, the eternal debate. Why cut up Prince's stuff? Well because some of it isn't great.

This is what we came up with (although he protests "Damned If eye Do, and I'm protesting him for it).

  1. Damned If I Do
  2. Right Back Here In My Arms
  3. Somebody’s Somebody (Livestudio Mix)
  4. Emale
  5. Get Yo Groove On (Edit)
  6. Courtin’ Time
  7. One Of Us
  8. Saviour
  9. Sleep Around (Edit)
  10. White Mansion
  11. One Kiss At A Time
  12. In This Bed I Scream
  13. Soul Sanctuary
  14. The Love We Make
  15. My Computer

I divided it into two sets of songs, one 8 and one 7 (however it would work out) and played with Side A and Side B ideology, instead of one long CD. So "Sleep Around" started Side B. I wanted "My Computer" to end it since it's the AOL sound saying "Goodbye."

Giving it a test run now.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #19 posted 12/05/23 7:43am

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TrivialPursuit said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

it was the album O-+-> was born to make, not necessarily prince smile


Semantics, and irrelevant.

his name change was meant to signal a rebirth.

ie the birth of something new.

reborn to make something he couldnt make before.

ie emancipation.

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Reply #20 posted 12/05/23 7:45am

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TrivialPursuit said:

Fenwick and I were going over Emancipation today, and the fluff on it. We wanted to pick the very best songs (for us) to make one CD. Yes, I know, the eternal debate. Why cut up Prince's stuff? Well because some of it isn't great.

This is what we came up with (although he protests "Damned If eye Do, and I'm protesting him for it).

  1. Damned If I Do
  2. Right Back Here In My Arms
  3. Somebody’s Somebody (Livestudio Mix)
  4. Emale
  5. Get Yo Groove On (Edit)
  6. Courtin’ Time
  7. One Of Us
  8. Saviour
  9. Sleep Around (Edit)
  10. White Mansion
  11. One Kiss At A Time
  12. In This Bed I Scream
  13. Soul Sanctuary
  14. The Love We Make
  15. My Computer

I divided it into two sets of songs, one 8 and one 7 (however it would work out) and played with Side A and Side B ideology, instead of one long CD. So "Sleep Around" started Side B. I wanted "My Computer" to end it since it's the AOL sound saying "Goodbye."

Giving it a test run now.

another day, another new emancipation sequence.

alternative emancipation tracklists are like a form of fan fiction that will never die.

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Reply #21 posted 12/05/23 9:40am

TrivialPursuit

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Semantics, and irrelevant.

his name change was meant to signal a rebirth.

ie the birth of something new.

reborn to make something he couldnt make before.

ie emancipation.


LOL OKAY THEN.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #22 posted 12/05/23 9:41am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

another day, another new emancipation sequence.

alternative emancipation tracklists are like a form of fan fiction that will never die.

Yep. And? I mean, one of us has to be post something coherent, and I've clearly had to pick up that mantle on the regular.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #23 posted 12/05/23 10:15am

funkbabyandthe
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keep telling yourself that.

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Reply #24 posted 12/05/23 10:48am

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7souls said:

"The album he was born to make" tagline was given to Emancipation, but I don't think it was well deserved. Which one album would you give this to?

Um, that whole campaigne was full of gimmicks.

Don't get me wrong, the music was great!!!

i couldn't possibly put just one album under that moniker, as Prince couldn't've either lol

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #25 posted 12/05/23 12:01pm

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Dirty Mind

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Reply #26 posted 12/05/23 1:06pm

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paraded said:

Dirty Mind

Then, you should be dirtyminded

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #27 posted 12/09/23 12:56pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Fenwick and I were going over Emancipation today, and the fluff on it. We wanted to pick the very best songs (for us) to make one CD. Yes, I know, the eternal debate. Why cut up Prince's stuff? Well because some of it isn't great.

This is what we came up with (although he protests "Damned If eye Do, and I'm protesting him for it).



  1. Damned If I Do

  2. Right Back Here In My Arms

  3. Somebody’s Somebody (Livestudio Mix)

  4. Emale

  5. Get Yo Groove On (Edit)

  6. Courtin’ Time

  7. One Of Us

  8. Saviour

  9. Sleep Around (Edit)

  10. White Mansion

  11. One Kiss At A Time

  12. In This Bed I Scream

  13. Soul Sanctuary

  14. The Love We Make

  15. My Computer


I divided it into two sets of songs, one 8 and one 7 (however it would work out) and played with Side A and Side B ideology, instead of one long CD. So "Sleep Around" started Side B. I wanted "My Computer" to end it since it's the AOL sound saying "Goodbye."

Giving it a test run now.




Yeah, that version of Emancipation sucks. You've left out most of the albums strongest cuts. The Holy River, Face Down, New World, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife and Joint 2 Joint are all better songs than three quarters of your list.
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Reply #28 posted 12/09/23 1:15pm

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MattyJam said:

Yeah, that version of Emancipation sucks. You've left out most of the albums strongest cuts. The Holy River, Face Down, New World, Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife and Joint 2 Joint are all better songs than three quarters of your list.


I don't believe "New World" is a strong song, at all. "Slave," "Human Body," and "New World" are cheap ass attempts at ...well, something. THey don't work for me. Never did, and I believe their lead in for disk 3 is why I never fancied that disk much at all.

"Face Down" is fine, but I was going for a mood on this one.


I agree that "Friend Lover" could work in here somewhere but I debated on that and "Saviour," and the latter was just a stronger song. I like the uplifting nature of it, too. It sorta tied in with "One Of Us," having a god-moment there. And I didn't wanna have too-too many ballads.


"The Holy River" feels schmaltzy to me until the guitar solo. It's too long, feels like a grab at "Purple Rain" or "Gold." Doesn't cut it. And I have those gospelesque moments represented already.


"Joint 2 Joint" is a noise fest and messy AF for me. The tap dancing is unusual, but also unnecessary. The rap is unnecessary, too. It feels more hodge-podge than well-thought out. Maybe if I cut out those two elements, it'd feel more cohesive or something. I dont know, it's just an odd track for me.

Of course - like I said and everyone else - it's the neverending battle of what is the best 1-disk version. haha

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #29 posted 12/09/23 1:19pm

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the opening to disc 3 on emancipation is literally the best run of the album

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