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Thread started 07/24/23 3:31am

Mackopolis44

Prince's Guitar-based / Rock albums

So, I've started the day with Plectrumelectrum. I was thinking about which of Prince's albums were more band based and guitar driven. So far I've thought about Purple Rain, Chaos and Disorder and Lotusflower. Any other suggestions?😎✌️🎸
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Reply #1 posted 07/24/23 4:24am

sexton

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The Undertaker

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Reply #2 posted 07/24/23 5:16am

Mackopolis44

sexton said:

The Undertaker


Ooh, nice one. Honky Tonk Blues is a bit nasty though 😳. Poor Goo is a bit out-there too πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚
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Reply #3 posted 07/24/23 5:32am

LILpoundCAKE

TRC is pretty heavy on the guitar too.

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Reply #4 posted 07/24/23 5:38am

Mackopolis44

LILpoundCAKE said:

TRC is pretty heavy on the guitar too.


Agreed, it's a corker! Not really a rocker though, I've always thought it was more Jazz. Great album. I love the experimental stuff. I've just finished listening to Lotusflow3r and it sounds awesome πŸ‘Œ Dreamer is so poignant today and the guitar is cranked up to 11 (Spinal Tap reference, exhibiting my age and listening habits).
Thanks, great choice bringing back great memories πŸ‘Œ
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Reply #5 posted 07/24/23 10:09am

nayroo2002

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"Honky Tonk Blues"???

Good grief, charlie brown!

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #6 posted 07/24/23 10:33am

Mackopolis44

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"Honky Tonk Blues"???


Good grief, charlie brown!


That particular version gave me the blues! I've been waiting for someone to pick up on it πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚
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Reply #7 posted 07/24/23 11:24am

ShellyMcG

Planet Earth?
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Reply #8 posted 07/24/23 11:48am

TrivialPursuit

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I've always considered The Gold Experience a more guitar/rock oriented album, despite the heavy funk tracks on it. "Endorphinmachine," "Gold," "319," "Shhh," "Dolphin," "I Hate U" are all guitar-centered or prominent, IMO.

I can see Planet Earth in that mix a bit, as someone mentioned.

Dirty Mind is to a great extent since there's not even a piano on it. He relies on keyboards and guitars for the whole album.

Honestly, Purple Rain is too. It's the white-rock appeal on it that brought it to the masses in a big way. "Let's Go Crazy," "Take Me With U," "Computer Blue," "Darling Nikki," "Purple Rain," being the biggest suspects.

I've always loved when certain Black artists do rock music. Janet's "Black Cat," "If," and "What'll I Do," En Vogue's "Free Your Mind," MJ's "Give Into Me," "Beat It," "Dirty Diana." Stuff like that.

Prince has these great nuggets:

Peach

Endorphinmachine

Let's Go Crazy

Bambi

Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad

Little Red Corvette

When U Were Mine

Computer Blue

Gold

Purple Rain

Dance On

Electric Chair

etc etc etc

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #9 posted 07/24/23 11:58am

BlueShakooo

From "Princevault:
>>Love Like Jazz is the seventh track on Prince’s 33rd studio album Lotusflow3r.
Basic tracking took place on 19 November 2004, during a three-and-a-half hour session with Michael B. on drums and Sonny T. on bass at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota that also yielded 3121, From The Lotus..., ...Back 2 The Lotus, Colonized Mind, Wall Of Berlin, Planet Earth, Guitar, a song titled Shameless as well as two or three others.
A tape photographed in Prince’s vault at Paisley Park Studios lists Wall Of Berlin as 19 November 2004, which alludes this is the exact date for all of the songs in this sessions.
In an August 2006 interview, Michael B. said [they recorded] eleven or twelve tracks in three and a half hours that night. On a different occasion he later indicated that this was the last recording session they did with Prince for a while after that.<<

I made a playlist based on this info:
1. 3121
2. Wall of Berlin
3. Colonized Mind
4. Guitar
5. Love Like Jazz
6. Planet Earth
7. From the Lotus
8. Back 2 the Lotus

And that would have been a great guitar based album for me.
If anybody cares:
https://open.spotify.com/...bVZNHb79GA

And of course I agree with "The Undertaker", "Rainbow Children", "Chaos and Disorder" and "Purple Rain".
Plus ONA Live.
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Reply #10 posted 07/24/23 12:40pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

I've always considered The Gold Experience a more guitar/rock oriented album, despite the heavy funk tracks on it. "Endorphinmachine," "Gold," "319," "Shhh," "Dolphin," "I Hate U" are all guitar-centered or prominent, IMO.

I can see Planet Earth in that mix a bit, as someone mentioned.

Dirty Mind is to a great extent since there's not even a piano on it. He relies on keyboards and guitars for the whole album.

Honestly, Purple Rain is too. It's the white-rock appeal on it that brought it to the masses in a big way. "Let's Go Crazy," "Take Me With U," "Computer Blue," "Darling Nikki," "Purple Rain," being the biggest suspects.

I've always loved when certain Black artists do rock music. Janet's "Black Cat," "If," and "What'll I Do," En Vogue's "Free Your Mind," MJ's "Give Into Me," "Beat It," "Dirty Diana." Stuff like that.

Prince has these great nuggets:

Peach

Endorphinmachine

Let's Go Crazy

Bambi

Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad

Little Red Corvette

When U Were Mine

Computer Blue

Gold

Purple Rain

Dance On

Electric Chair

etc etc etc



Some of the songs you listed are not rock. The presence of a guitar doesn't, by itself, make a song rock. Some of the songs you list are clearly pop, not rock. Some of them don't nearly fit into a genre, such as Dance On and Darling Nikki (I'm tempted to label Darling Nikki as burlesque).





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Reply #11 posted 07/24/23 1:50pm

funkbabyandthe
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i keep thinking ive mised something out but it really is just PR, chaos, lotusflower isnt it? the undertaker is an album i guess, but a live in the studio album really, not a proper album. chaos is actually really underrated. ppl think its just a piss off warner/end the contract filler release, but its better than that, even if that was how it was put together. chaos is actually better than gold tbh. it has better ballads than gold does. better hard rockers than gold. and its also shorter, so only one bad song (and its only bad cos of rosie and the dancehall MC. i.e. i rock therefore i am). plectrum electrum i guess IS a prince album, but its also more a 3EG album, and its not too good either. lotusflower is at least better than that one.

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Reply #12 posted 07/24/23 4:30pm

TrivialPursuit

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lurker316 said:

Some of the songs you listed are not rock. The presence of a guitar doesn't, by itself, make a song rock. Some of the songs you list are clearly pop, not rock. Some of them don't nearly fit into a genre, such as Dance On and Darling Nikki (I'm tempted to label Darling Nikki as burlesque).


Your blue is not my blue.

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #13 posted 07/24/23 11:14pm

Mackopolis44

TrivialPursuit said:



lurker316 said:



Some of the songs you listed are not rock. The presence of a guitar doesn't, by itself, make a song rock. Some of the songs you list are clearly pop, not rock. Some of them don't nearly fit into a genre, such as Dance On and Darling Nikki (I'm tempted to label Darling Nikki as burlesque).




Your blue is not my blue.



Great discussion guys! It's absolutely fascinating that we all find it tricky in categorising Prince's work. Even now,after years of listening and familiarity, it's hard to categorise songs like When Doves Cry, Diamonds and Pearls and Darling Nikki.
The guy was truly free as a songwriter 😎✌️🎸
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Reply #14 posted 07/25/23 11:46am

TrivialPursuit

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Mackopolis44 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Your blue is not my blue.

Great discussion guys! It's absolutely fascinating that we all find it tricky in categorising Prince's work. Even now,after years of listening and familiarity, it's hard to categorise songs like When Doves Cry, Diamonds and Pearls and Darling Nikki. The guy was truly free as a songwriter 😎✌️🎸


Exactly. I'm not going to argue what is rock and what isn't. It's a playlist I've created, that pleases me. Same with everyone and anyone doing their thang. Prince's music transcends everything and everyone. There will never be a perfect playlist of anything with him because it's so fucking brilliant, how do you even begin to compile something???

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/23 6:59pm

chrisslope9

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Crystal Ball disc 2

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Reply #16 posted 07/26/23 1:00am

Mackopolis44

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Crystal Ball disc 2


Interesting choice, it definitely has some hard hitters! Nice one πŸ‘
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Reply #17 posted 07/27/23 7:38am

funkbabyandthe
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For someone who sure loved blazing rock guitar, its weird he didnt do more rock material.
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