I turned on the livestream and all I saw was Spicer mooning the camera.

TrivialPursuit said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I passed it to him too. I think he was probably pretending to you that he hadn't heard it.

Maybe? He posted seconds after I gave it to him. But who knows. I honestly forget where it came from for me. It was a few years ago.

I jest! As long as we all get to hear it, that's what counts.

SquirrelMeat said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Maybe? He posted seconds after I gave it to him. But who knows. I honestly forget where it came from for me. It was a few years ago.

I jest! As long as we all get to hear it, that's what counts.

haha I know. I was just mulling over that timeline, and honestly don't know what happened when. Just that it did.

fredmagnus said:

Is there a reason why they didn't release for everyone the song they've been using for the Celebration promo clip ? I mean, this is the least they could have done. Especially when the track is called All Are Shared Together Now. Sometimes I think they're just making fun of us. They do this on purpose.

If you didn't pay for the celebration then you are not entitled to anything. pretty simple actually.

They're still trying to hawk tickets through the Paisley and Prince social media pages while the event is more than halfway over.

LOL, I saw people complain on Twitter that the party barely featured Prince songs and a ton of Doug E Fresh shouting. And tonight's party is also a celebration of... Tina Turner.

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Imagine paying $1500+ and then getting parties where they barely play any Prince music.

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Oh, and if you're pissed off that back in 1998 or so you never got that tape of The War 1800NF was selling: they were selling it at this Celebration because they found a bunch of them, as well as ONA Live box sets (for $25!), as well as those Live In Hawaii round purple box sets. Betcha a bunch of VIPs are gonna cash in on that to earn back some of that $1500.

bizzie said:

LOL, I saw people complain on Twitter that the party barely featured Prince songs and a ton of Doug E Fresh shouting. And tonight's party is also a celebration of... Tina Turner.

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Imagine paying $1500+ and then getting parties where they barely play any Prince music.

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Oh, and if you're pissed off that back in 1998 or so you never got that tape of The War 1800NF was selling: they were selling it at this Celebration because they found a bunch of them, as well as ONA Live box sets (for $25!), as well as those Live In Hawaii round purple box sets. Betcha a bunch of VIPs are gonna cash in on that to earn back some of that $1500.

in short: a clusterfuck.

Everytime I feel down I remember that last year I saw PAVEMENT live and it makes me feel so much better. What a gift that was.

bizzie said:

lustmealways said:

Everytime I feel down I remember that last year I saw PAVEMENT live and it makes me feel so much better. What a gift that was.

Nice. Always a good show.

My other favorite artist -- besides Prince -- is The Fall. Muscially they couldn't be further apart, but each (depending on my mood) satisfies like no other. Guess I have a thing for absurdly prolific, autocratic cranks.

TrivialPursuit said:

PennyPurple said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Looking at the official social media pics, the main hall looks a little over half full. And judging by the change of seat styles/comfort, the VIP guests are two thirds of the audience.

I had general admission and the highlight for me was the unreleased video of the Act II tour in London at Wembley Arena on September 7, 1993. We got to see the first half on Friday and the second half today. They cut if off after the song 7.

The Chaka Khan panel was ok, she seemed kind of out of it. She didn't really have good answers for any of the questions she was asked. I don't recall seeing interviews with her before, so not sure if that is just normal for her or what.

The Hip Hop panel was Chuck D, Doug E Fresh, and Tony M. Their conversation was more interesting than Chaka's. I'm not a Tony M hater, so I enjoyed listening to him talk about Prince setting him up to be a rapper.

The 7 panel was by far the best. It was Tony, Damon, Levi, Morris, Dj Rashida, Michael Koppelman, and Toya Gaines, Rosie's daughter. Lots of stories.

I could have done without the live shows and taken more unreleased Prince concerts.

Was it worth $600? Not really. They kind of dumbed it down this year and attendance showed. I had Pearl for Friday night and there were a lot of empty seats. I had Diamond tonight and most seats were full. I think there were more VIP folks than GA both nights. Museum tour tomorrow, so nothing major. I saw Lonnie make the comment earlier that they already sold more tickets than last year, well last year was only 1 track, so....

[Edited 6/10/23 23:34pm]

Londell did the Hip Hop panel and let us all know Doug E Fresh and Chuck D did not charge him to come to Celebration. They obviously didn't want to pay Chaka Khan to do a live show.

motherfunka said:

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motherfunka said:

Londell did the Hip Hop panel and let us all know Doug E Fresh and Chuck D did not charge him to come to Celebration. They obviously didn't want to pay Chaka Khan to do a live show.

Their loss...

dodger07 said:

motherfunka said:

I had general admission and the highlight for me was the unreleased video of the Act II tour in London at Wembley Arena on September 7, 1993. We got to see the first half on Friday and the second half today. They cut if off after the song 7.

The Chaka Khan panel was ok, she seemed kind of out of it. She didn't really have good answers for any of the questions she was asked. I don't recall seeing interviews with her before, so not sure if that is just normal for her or what.

The Hip Hop panel was Chuck D, Doug E Fresh, and Tony M. Their conversation was more interesting than Chaka's. I'm not a Tony M hater, so I enjoyed listening to him talk about Prince setting him up to be a rapper.

The 7 panel was by far the best. It was Tony, Damon, Levi, Morris, Dj Rashida, Michael Koppelman, and Toya Gaines, Rosie's daughter. Lots of stories.

I could have done without the live shows and taken more unreleased Prince concerts.

Was it worth $600? Not really. They kind of dumbed it down this year and attendance showed. I had Pearl for Friday night and there were a lot of empty seats. I had Diamond tonight and most seats were full. I think there were more VIP folks than GA both nights. Museum tour tomorrow, so nothing major. I saw Lonnie make the comment earlier that they already sold more tickets than last year, well last year was only 1 track, so....

[Edited 6/10/23 23:34pm]

Cool info, thanks. . Read some reports of a portion of an Act 1 show being shown.

edit, my mistake

[Edited 6/11/23 11:50am]

Did Rosie's daughter say how Rosie was doing?

Londell doing a hip-hop panel is like Gwenyth Paltrow doing a panel on the plight of people below the poverty line.

https://twitter.com/donny...3930406912

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An honest review of Celebration 2023: This was not a celebration about Prince. During the few moments when they focused on Prince, they got it right. The 2 hours of concert footage and 40 minutes of vault material was breathtaking. @nunnabove was also brilliant.

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But, the rest of Celebration was baffling for those expecting to get a Prince experience. They had a speaker who talked about how he made Prince guitars, which was interesting if you are into guitars, but was not really about Prince. Chuck D gave some great insight into rap, but

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not really focused on Prince. Chaka Khan talked more about her iconic career than Prince. The fan panel was about more about fans than Prince. The 7 panel was about Prince and was pretty good, but, ironically, very little of it was about Prince's connection to the number 7.

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The D-Nice DJ set was focused great music and Dougie Fresh, but not really Prince. DJ Rashida played one Prince song before they had a band do a Tina Turner tribute. Props to DJ Lenka, because her set at the W was actually focused on Prince.

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The Stokley and Sounds and Blackness concerts had very little connection to Prince. All of the above was good content. But Celebration has lost its way. It needs to be all about Prince. 2018 was the best Celebration. We had 30 minute of concert footage to start the day,

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a full Prince on the Big Screen concert with a live band at the Target Center and several Prince related live performers. 2019 was the worst one, but this 2023 Celebration is a very close second to worst Celebration.

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They struggled with some of the logistics (museum tour was substandard, food was challenging, etc), but logistical issues are to be expected. What is unacceptable is the lack of focus on Prince's music and live performances.

.

We were at Paisley for 9 hours each day on Friday and Saturday for a total of 18 hours. In those 18 hours, we got about 90 minutes of Prince (concert footage) and over 16 hours of tangentially Prince related content. This is troubling, unacceptable and not sustainable.

.

Where do we go from here? It is not rocket science. At least 60% of the content should be Prince material, not the less than 5% that 2023 Celebration gave us. A little more transparency would be good also. Selling $1,200 tickets without an itinerary/lineup is disappointing.

.

Telling us that new music is not released yet because they are trying to get the sound right is disrespectful. We all know (without casting blame) that the Estate is having some internal strife which has led to challenges to getting music released and getting the netflix

.

documentary released. Prince taught his fans to search for The Truth and to not settle for mediocrity. Celebration 2023 was not a lie, but it was mediocre, at best. Do better next year so we can keep this going.

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I'm sure many people loved 2023 Celebration. I respect your opinion about it. This is just an opinion from one fan that has been to every Celebration since 2000.

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Sunday VIP showcased a great young gospel group. It was so good. Again, no Prince content and another swing and a big miss.

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https://twitter.com/donny...2295781376

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The most important issue for future Celebrations is how to make it affordable for all fans. The Paisley staff’s effort putting this together was exceptional. The problem is the format made it so much harder and more expensive than it needed to be. Overhead can easily be lowered,

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which will result in lower prices for fans. The cost for simply pushing play for previously unreleased and previously released Prince content is much lower than the cost for artists and speakers. We want more Prince content and less of the other stuff, so that is a win/win. Maybe

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have 2 small panels max. Instead of paying established bands like Stokely, Sounds of Blackness, etc., just showcase up and coming artists. We all loved Nunn Above and the gospel group. I’m not sure everyone loved the established acts. I’m sure the breakfast was extremely

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expensive. They could have brought us in and had us listen to and read the lyrics of the Rainbow Children and we would have been happy and that would have been cheap.

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They can save a ton of money on food. I’m okay paying for food. Bring in food trucks, but make sure they can accommodate all of us.

PennyPurple said:

Did Rosie's daughter say how Rosie was doing?

They really didn't say, but they did play a recorded message from her. She sounded ok. She talked about being grateful to Prince. Paisley Park gave her an award. I think they called it Prince Legacy award. Londell talked about being in contact with her and that they would try to get her to Celebration, but probably not next year and maybe the next.

bizzie said:

https://twitter.com/donny...3930406912

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An honest review of Celebration 2023: This was not a celebration about Prince. During the few moments when they focused on Prince, they got it right. The 2 hours of concert footage and 40 minutes of vault material was breathtaking. @nunnabove was also brilliant.

.

But, the rest of Celebration was baffling for those expecting to get a Prince experience. They had a speaker who talked about how he made Prince guitars, which was interesting if you are into guitars, but was not really about Prince. Chuck D gave some great insight into rap, but

.

not really focused on Prince. Chaka Khan talked more about her iconic career than Prince. The fan panel was about more about fans than Prince. The 7 panel was about Prince and was pretty good, but, ironically, very little of it was about Prince's connection to the number 7.

.

The D-Nice DJ set was focused great music and Dougie Fresh, but not really Prince. DJ Rashida played one Prince song before they had a band do a Tina Turner tribute. Props to DJ Lenka, because her set at the W was actually focused on Prince.

.

The Stokley and Sounds and Blackness concerts had very little connection to Prince. All of the above was good content. But Celebration has lost its way. It needs to be all about Prince. 2018 was the best Celebration. We had 30 minute of concert footage to start the day,

.

a full Prince on the Big Screen concert with a live band at the Target Center and several Prince related live performers. 2019 was the worst one, but this 2023 Celebration is a very close second to worst Celebration.

.

They struggled with some of the logistics (museum tour was substandard, food was challenging, etc), but logistical issues are to be expected. What is unacceptable is the lack of focus on Prince's music and live performances.

.

We were at Paisley for 9 hours each day on Friday and Saturday for a total of 18 hours. In those 18 hours, we got about 90 minutes of Prince (concert footage) and over 16 hours of tangentially Prince related content. This is troubling, unacceptable and not sustainable.

.

Where do we go from here? It is not rocket science. At least 60% of the content should be Prince material, not the less than 5% that 2023 Celebration gave us. A little more transparency would be good also. Selling $1,200 tickets without an itinerary/lineup is disappointing.

.

Telling us that new music is not released yet because they are trying to get the sound right is disrespectful. We all know (without casting blame) that the Estate is having some internal strife which has led to challenges to getting music released and getting the netflix

.

documentary released. Prince taught his fans to search for The Truth and to not settle for mediocrity. Celebration 2023 was not a lie, but it was mediocre, at best. Do better next year so we can keep this going.

.

I'm sure many people loved 2023 Celebration. I respect your opinion about it. This is just an opinion from one fan that has been to every Celebration since 2000.

.

Sunday VIP showcased a great young gospel group. It was so good. Again, no Prince content and another swing and a big miss.

.

https://twitter.com/donny...2295781376

.

The most important issue for future Celebrations is how to make it affordable for all fans. The Paisley staff’s effort putting this together was exceptional. The problem is the format made it so much harder and more expensive than it needed to be. Overhead can easily be lowered,

.

which will result in lower prices for fans. The cost for simply pushing play for previously unreleased and previously released Prince content is much lower than the cost for artists and speakers. We want more Prince content and less of the other stuff, so that is a win/win. Maybe

.

have 2 small panels max. Instead of paying established bands like Stokely, Sounds of Blackness, etc., just showcase up and coming artists. We all loved Nunn Above and the gospel group. I’m not sure everyone loved the established acts. I’m sure the breakfast was extremely

.

expensive. They could have brought us in and had us listen to and read the lyrics of the Rainbow Children and we would have been happy and that would have been cheap.

.

They can save a ton of money on food. I’m okay paying for food. Bring in food trucks, but make sure they can accommodate all of us.

Would love to hear more honest reviews like this than the transparent ass-kissing some folks on twitter have been doing.

$1200 for four days of poorly planned panels and events, and just a little bit of Prince concert footage and 11 unreleased songs, of which the two least interesting tracks were given out on a USB drive. Is that seriously the best they can do?