‘The Conversation’ article ‘the artist formerly known as Camille’

Reply #31 posted 02/03/23 3:32pm

CandaceS

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LoveGalore said:
CandaceS said:

I've asked elsewhere, I'll ask again here: what is the source for the "information" that Camille will be released this year?

Looking way back through Jack White's IG, I couldn't find any mention of this project.

Because he talked about it on tv and articles. Just google it.

I have searched. All I can find are articles from 2022, which all state there is no release date. BTW, almost none of those articles quote Jack White.

Why don't you post a link quoting a reliable source stating it will be released this year?

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"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015

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Reply #32 posted 02/03/23 3:35pm

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PennyPurple said:

I haven't heard where Jack White isn't releasing it, from Jack White himself.

He hasn't announced it's NOT being released this year, therefore it IS being released this year? falloff

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Reply #33 posted 02/03/23 3:37pm

CandaceS said:

LoveGalore said:

CandaceS said:

I've asked elsewhere, I'll ask again here: what is the source for the "information" that Camille will be released this year?

Looking way back through Jack White's IG, I couldn't find any mention of this project.

Because he talked about it on tv and articles. Just google it.

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There was never a release date. Why are you suggesting that one was mentioned?

You asked before? When? Where? Not in this thread.

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Reply #34 posted 02/03/23 3:38pm

CandaceS said:

LoveGalore said:

CandaceS said:

I've asked elsewhere, I'll ask again here: what is the source for the "information" that Camille will be released this year?

Looking way back through Jack White's IG, I couldn't find any mention of this project.

Because he talked about it on tv and articles. Just google it.

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And just googling "Jack White Camille" shows TONS of articles with JW quotes in the damn headline. What the hell are you even searching for? Ceviche recipes?

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Reply #35 posted 02/05/23 7:41am

MsNia

Interesting about the supposed gender of the character Camille.
Was always under the impression she was female, due to the Shockadelica lyrics:

The bed's on fire
Your fate is sealed
And you're so tired
And the reason is Camille-mille, Shockadelica
The girl must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched, Shockadelica
You need a second opinion but she never wears a stitch
So you can't take her home

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Reply #36 posted 02/05/23 8:52am

FrankieCoco1

MsNia said:

Interesting about the supposed gender of the character Camille.
Was always under the impression she was female, due to the Shockadelica lyrics:

The bed's on fire
Your fate is sealed
And you're so tired
And the reason is Camille-mille, Shockadelica
The girl must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched, Shockadelica
You need a second opinion but she never wears a stitch
So you can't take her home

Interesting interpretation of the lyrics but my understanding is that the girl is Shockadelica, with Camille being the male who has his ‘soul hitched’ by Shockadelica. Lots of different spins on many Prince songs, so always worth hearing how others hear things.

There may or may not be something coming!

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Reply #37 posted 02/05/23 9:23am

FrankieCoco1 said:

MsNia said:

Interesting about the supposed gender of the character Camille.
Was always under the impression she was female, due to the Shockadelica lyrics:

The bed's on fire
Your fate is sealed
And you're so tired
And the reason is Camille-mille, Shockadelica
The girl must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched, Shockadelica
You need a second opinion but she never wears a stitch
So you can't take her home

Maybe neither of you are familiar with the extended version?

Shockadelica is a feeling, the lonely cold
Sleepin' alone will bore ya and.. and soon U grow old
In lust we will suffer, but in love we will grow
Shockadelica is a feeling nobody should know
I'm talkin' about the lonely cold mama

Shockadelica is not the girl. Camille is the boy.

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Reply #38 posted 02/05/23 11:01am

FrankieCoco1

Just read on Wikipedia that Jesse Johnson stated in a November 1986 Billboard article, “Shockadelica was a term he [Jesse] had used for years to describe an excited feeling he got from a song or woman.”

So thanks LoveGalore, for that correction. Who’s the girl that Camille is on about in the song then?

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Reply #39 posted 02/05/23 11:44am

FrankieCoco1 said:

I actually think it's no particular girl. It's any girl that he finds very sexy when he's feeling extremely lonely! The girl must be a witch because he's under her hex (like in Love & Sex) but the way the song plays out... He becomes mean and rude ("nasty bitch!") and extremely hungry for her affection but it turns evil. No one should be that lonely, etc etc.
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Reply #40 posted 02/05/23 12:05pm

tomds

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MJ fans on the other hand are having so much fun with the new leaks and that biopic smh.

Indeed. Is there a list of everything that has been leaked and where to find it ?

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Reply #41 posted 02/05/23 12:14pm

tomds said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

MJ fans on the other hand are having so much fun with the new leaks and that biopic smh.

Indeed. Is there a list of everything that has been leaked and where to find it ?

I've been looking but so many of the MJ fans are Stockholm syndrome sufferers convinced that leaks prevent actual releases and they refrain from actually listing what is now out there. Little do they know, Sony ain't planning shit anyway and when they do something the effort is minimal if not blatant fraud.

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Reply #42 posted 02/05/23 1:39pm

MsNia

LoveGalore said:
FrankieCoco1 said:
Interesting interpretation of the lyrics but my understanding is that the girl is Shockadelica, with Camille being the male who has his ‘soul hitched’ by Shockadelica. Lots of different spins on many Prince songs, so always worth hearing how others hear things.
Maybe neither of you are familiar with the extended version? Shockadelica is a feeling, the lonely cold Sleepin' alone will bore ya and.. and soon U grow old In lust we will suffer, but in love we will grow Shockadelica is a feeling nobody should know I'm talkin' about the lonely cold mama Shockadelica is not the girl. Camille is the boy.

Thanks, I am familiar with it. That's the reason I figured that... if "shockadelica" was a feeling, then the "witch" referred to in the rest of the song lyrics must be Camille. Definitely don't hear anything in that song to suggest Camille is male, not that it matters much. Happy to be disproven etc.

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Reply #43 posted 02/05/23 1:43pm

MsNia said:

LoveGalore said:

FrankieCoco1 said:
Interesting interpretation of the lyrics but my understanding is that the girl is Shockadelica, with Camille being the male who has his ‘soul hitched’ by Shockadelica. Lots of different spins on many Prince songs, so always worth hearing how others hear things.

Maybe neither of you are familiar with the extended version? Shockadelica is a feeling, the lonely cold Sleepin' alone will bore ya and.. and soon U grow old In lust we will suffer, but in love we will grow Shockadelica is a feeling nobody should know I'm talkin' about the lonely cold mama Shockadelica is not the girl. Camille is the boy.

It's just wordplay to say it's his own fault for being so lonely. He could've said "the reason is Prince" and it would mean the same thing. The reason he's all fucked up is because he is experiencing shockadelica and it warps his brain.

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Reply #44 posted 02/06/23 12:26am

MsNia

LoveGalore said:
MsNia said:

Thanks, I am familiar with it. That's the reason I figured that... if "shockadelica" was a feeling, then the "witch" referred to in the rest of the song lyrics must be Camille. Definitely don't hear anything in that song to suggest Camille is male, not that it matters much. Happy to be disproven etc.

It's just wordplay to say it's his own fault for being so lonely. He could've said "the reason is Prince" and it would mean the same thing. The reason he's all fucked up is because he is experiencing shockadelica and it warps his brain.

Interesting interpretation, feels like a bit of a stretch though? Or at least, that isn't my read of the lyric at all.

(The lights go out)
The lights go out, the smell of doom
Is creepin' into your lonely room
The bed's on fire, your fate is sealed
And U're so tired and the reason is Camille-mille

Shockadelica - The girl must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched
Shockadelica - U need a second opinion, but she never wears a stitch
So U can't take her home

If Camille wasn't the "witch" under discussion, the inclusion of that lyric ("the reason is Camille") feels a bit out of place no? So this girl has you in a trance, your fate is sealed and you're exhausted.... but the reason is yourself? Oh well, this is probably not a song that deserve such lyrical scrutiny smile

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Reply #45 posted 02/06/23 2:17am

MsNia said:

LoveGalore said:
MsNia said:

Interesting interpretation, feels like a bit of a stretch though? Or at least, that isn't my read of the lyric at all.

(The lights go out)
The lights go out, the smell of doom
Is creepin' into your lonely room
The bed's on fire, your fate is sealed
And U're so tired and the reason is Camille-mille

Shockadelica - The girl must be a witch
She got your mind, body, and soul hitched
Shockadelica - U need a second opinion, but she never wears a stitch
So U can't take her home

If Camille wasn't the "witch" under discussion, the inclusion of that lyric ("the reason is Camille") feels a bit out of place no? So this girl has you in a trance, your fate is sealed and you're exhausted.... but the reason is yourself? Oh well, this is probably not a song that deserve such lyrical scrutiny

My interpretation is that Camille is entranced by the witch and Camille proceeds to fuck the witch's brains out.

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Reply #46 posted 02/06/23 4:21am

WhisperingDandelions said:

lol, everyone getting so defensive over their hero. My apologies for daring to speak out of turn toward the mighty and benevolent White man. The superior White king. White is right?

Wow, you really are insecure about skincolor are you? Anyway, real fans know Third Man pressed the SOTT 7 inch vinyl boxset in association with the Estate so not much of a stretch to hope for an eventual release of Camille by Jack White and he said he's up for it.
To bad no black artists have the respect for Prince's legacy to do something like Jack White want's to do and has done for Prince's legacy and his fans. ( lol just to feed your racist bullshit)

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Reply #47 posted 02/06/23 4:28am

jack white has plenty other records to press and release.

this is not the only thing hes thinking about lol.

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Reply #48 posted 02/06/23 7:05am

WhisperingDand
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JorisE73 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

lol, everyone getting so defensive over their hero. My apologies for daring to speak out of turn toward the mighty and benevolent White man. The superior White king. White is right?

Wow, you really are insecure about skincolor are you? Anyway, real fans know Third Man pressed the SOTT 7 inch vinyl boxset in association with the Estate so not much of a stretch to hope for an eventual release of Camille by Jack White and he said he's up for it.
To bad no black artists have the respect for Prince's legacy to do something like Jack White want's to do and has done for Prince's legacy and his fans. ( just to feed your racist bullshit)

lolwut? His last name is "White,' my ragin' caucasian org compatriot. You made any inferred connotations all by yourself, my man... although I do question if you would react quite the same to a Jack Black rant..... . . .

hahah and what. what. what he "HAS DONE" for Prince's legacy and his fans? What has he done again exactly? 7 inch repressings? We should all send him a gift basket. Who do we owe for the generous Planet Earth CD repressing?

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Reply #49 posted 02/06/23 7:07am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

jack white has plenty other records to press and release.

this is not the only thing hes thinking about lol.

Some of you need to start a jackwhite.org message board already, in honor of your hero.

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Reply #50 posted 02/06/23 8:37am

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

lol, everyone getting so defensive over their hero. My apologies for daring to speak out of turn toward the mighty and benevolent White man. The superior White king. White is right?

Wow, you really are insecure about skincolor are you? Anyway, real fans know Third Man pressed the SOTT 7 inch vinyl boxset in association with the Estate so not much of a stretch to hope for an eventual release of Camille by Jack White and he said he's up for it.
To bad no black artists have the respect for Prince's legacy to do something like Jack White want's to do and has done for Prince's legacy and his fans. ( just to feed your racist bullshit)

Oof. There's the fragility. You shoulda let this one go, bud. Anything more and you end up lacking credibility and sanity.

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Reply #51 posted 02/07/23 12:54am

WhisperingDandelions said:

JorisE73 said:

Wow, you really are insecure about skincolor are you? Anyway, real fans know Third Man pressed the SOTT 7 inch vinyl boxset in association with the Estate so not much of a stretch to hope for an eventual release of Camille by Jack White and he said he's up for it.
To bad no black artists have the respect for Prince's legacy to do something like Jack White want's to do and has done for Prince's legacy and his fans. ( just to feed your racist bullshit)

lolwut? His last name is "White,' my ragin' caucasian org compatriot. You made any inferred connotations all by yourself, my man... although I do question if you would react quite the same to a Jack Black rant..... . . .

hahah and what. what. what he "HAS DONE" for Prince's legacy and his fans? What has he done again exactly? 7 inch repressings? We should all send him a gift basket. Who do we owe for the generous Planet Earth CD repressing?

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So insecure lol

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Reply #52 posted 02/07/23 5:57am

everyone knows jack whites real last name isnt even white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_White

he called himself white as hes prob a downlow white supremacist.

i mean, he named the band the WHITE stripes.

not the red stripes, pink stripes, grey stripes, or beige stripes, the WHITE stripes.

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Reply #53 posted 02/07/23 6:49am

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

everyone knows jack whites real last name isnt even white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_White

he called himself white as hes prob a downlow white supremacist.

i mean, he named the band the WHITE stripes.

not the red stripes, pink stripes, grey stripes, or beige stripes, the WHITE stripes.

lol Americans and there racism fetish lol
Now even using the word 'White' makes someone a racist lol

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Reply #54 posted 02/07/23 8:23am

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this place is toxic

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Reply #55 posted 02/07/23 8:53am

LoveGalore	themanfromneptune said: this place is toxic Were you born last night or did you mean Earth?
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Reply #56 posted 02/07/23 8:58am

themanfromnept
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LoveGalore said:
themanfromneptune said:

this place is toxic

Were you born last night or did you mean Earth?

quod erat demonstrandum

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Reply #57 posted 02/07/23 9:18am

LoveGalore	themanfromneptune said: LoveGalore said: themanfromneptune said: this place is toxic Were you born last night or did you mean Earth? . quod erat demonstrandum I REFUSE to speak French.
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Reply #58 posted 02/07/23 10:54am

themanfromnept
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LoveGalore said:
themanfromneptune said:

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quod erat demonstrandum

I REFUSE to speak French.

- quod erat demonstrandum, baby

- oh, you speak french!

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Reply #59 posted 02/07/23 11:09am

Bighead909

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

everyone knows jack whites real last name isnt even white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_White

he called himself white as hes prob a downlow white supremacist.

i mean, he named the band the WHITE stripes.

not the red stripes, pink stripes, grey stripes, or beige stripes, the WHITE stripes.

Jack White's last name was Gillis. When he married Meg White, The drummer for the white stripes, he took her name, therefore becoming Jack White. No racism there, just young love and marriage.

Hence the band name. The White Stripes. As in Jack and Meg White.

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