FrankieCoco1 said:

https://theconversation.c...out-189486 Discussion about the Camille album, including Prince’s [supposed] androgyny. Also claims it is expected to be released later in 2023 [without anything to back it up].

Neversin was pretty adamant that Camille was 100% intended to be male and the whole androgynous thing was made up:


https://prince.org/msg/7/...&pg=10

[Edited 1/31/23 14:27pm]

2020 what good times we had. absolutely gutted that they won't FUCKING RELEASE ANYTHING ELSE AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

MJ fans on the other hand are having so much fun with the new leaks and that biopic smh.

Here's my own take on the Camille album, as a fan who's a trans person and hugely influenced by Prince in how I present and am. There's also a video discussion with Chris Johnson of the Purple Knights Podcast, which came about after I helped to break the news of Third Man aquiring their copy: https://vickyxleigh.mediu...e4f44b624e

paisleyparkgirl said:

MJ fans on the other hand are having so much fun with the new leaks and that biopic smh.

The leaks because someone stole a laptop with tons of MJ stuff on it.

TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

MJ fans on the other hand are having so much fun with the new leaks and that biopic smh.

The leaks because someone stole a laptop with tons of MJ stuff on it.

Maybe someone should steal a laptop at Paisley Park.

paisleyparkgirl said:

TrivialPursuit said:

The leaks because someone stole a laptop with tons of MJ stuff on it.

Maybe someone should steal a laptop at Paisley Park.

i was thinking exactly the same.

only Prince's vault shit is since several years not in Paisley Park anymore.

lurker316 said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://theconversation.c...out-189486 Discussion about the Camille album, including Prince’s [supposed] androgyny. Also claims it is expected to be released later in 2023 [without anything to back it up].

Neversin was pretty adamant that Camille was 100% intended to be male and the whole androgynous thing was made up:


https://prince.org/msg/7/...&pg=10

[Edited 1/31/23 14:27pm]

People will believe whatever they want, regardless of what anyone close to the source claims. But in this case, we don't even need to ponder it, Prince himself explicitly stated Camille was male in a letter he wrote to Tom Moon, after Tom wrote a critical review of the Come album for Rolling Stone.

The letter was sold at auction, so would appear genuine and the auction can be seen here https://www.icollector.co..._i29054576

But even with Neversin telling us and Prince himself stating it, nothing will change. People will still belive whatever they want.

Vannormal said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Maybe someone should steal a laptop at Paisley Park.

i was thinking exactly the same.

only Prince's vault shit is since several years not in Paisley Park anymore.

Oh yeah I forgot about that ugh !!!!

paisleyparkgirl said:

Vannormal said:

i was thinking exactly the same.

only Prince's vault shit is since several years not in Paisley Park anymore.

Oh yeah I forgot about that ugh !!!!

Didn't the estate pull it out of the sage storage it's been moved to? Where is it now?

EnglishGent2 said:

Given Prince himself also described Camille as a psychedlic pimplike man with only gorgeuos women around him to serve him while he was chasing a unreachable woman (this came from a page Prince wrote on what is believed to be a draft on a play/movie about Camille that Neversin shared to some on a private Discord some years ago) and the fact that some bitter british music reviewer, who never listened to SOTT back in 87, decided Prince was singing to a guy when he read the title If I Was Your Girlfriend on the album without listening to the song and then made up that Camille was a female and everyone ran with that made up BS.

Doozer said:

We interviewed Tom on our podcast and he said he never received this letter. Not saying it’s not a letter from Prince to Tom, but Tom Moon never possessed this letter.

Intersting, thanks for the insight. The auction description says, "Prince's response to Tom Moon's critical review of his album Come", so isn't claiming that it was sent to Tom.

Might be that it was an open letter, like that one he wrote to Madonna, although this one does exist in physical form at least. Would be interesting to know more about the origin of this letter and how it came to be in the hands of the auctioneers.

EnglishGent2 said:

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bluegangsta said:

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themanfromneptune said:

DR FUNKENBERRY:

In regards to that "Camille" article which gets MANY things wrong, it is NOT slated for release this year or the immediate future. Long story short. All songs but one fall under Sony. The other song is still under WB. So unless a licensing deal is made, it is not happening.

Groups that know better shouldn't allow/post the misinformation to spread through the community. Do better.

That';s rich coming from "Dr" Irrelevant.

JorisE73 said:

LoveGalore said:

JorisE73 said:

That';s rich coming from "Dr" Irrelevant.

So he must be talking about Good Love because it's on that soundtrack. Which would explain why Prince released a different edit of it on CB.

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Or Rock Hard in Funky Place?

So again the reason we won't get anything we want is record companies being moneyminding assholes. Next to the Estate themself of course.

themanfromneptune said:

Jackass White really dropped the ball on this one. Somebody needs to storm the stage and tear up his photo during his inevitable Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction. Fight the real enemy.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Jackass White really dropped the ball on this one. Somebody needs to storm the stage and tear up his photo during his inevitable Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction. Fight the real enemy.

How so?
He's the one who wants to release it, it's as usual the record companies and (probably) the Estate again tinking about money istead of Prince's legacy.

WhisperingDandelions said:

Jackass White really dropped the ball on this one. Somebody needs to storm the stage and tear up his photo during his inevitable Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction. Fight the real enemy.

why the hate, name and all... the real enemy?

because you/we don't get what you/we like

lol, everyone getting so defensive over their hero. My apologies for daring to speak out of turn toward the mighty and benevolent White man. The superior White king. White is right?

C'mon, Brother Jacques was clearly a little spazzy on the draw with his Camille declarations, c'mon. Maybe you seem him as a pie-in-the-sky idealist and fellow fanboy thwarted by the whims of the Estate's evil empire, alls I see is more empty promises, another false prophet, yet another demagogue in the extended post-Purplepocalypic cinematic multiverse of madness Groundhog Day we call this date in org history.

WhisperingDandelions said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

lol, everyone getting so defensive over their hero. My apologies for daring to speak out of turn toward the mighty and benevolent White man. The superior White king. White is right?

C'mon, Brother Jacques was clearly a little spazzy on the draw with his Camille declarations, c'mon. Maybe you seem him as a pie-in-the-sky idealist and fellow fanboy thwarted by the whims of the Estate's evil empire, alls I see is more empty promises, another false prophet, yet another demagogue in the extended post-Purplepocalypic cinematic multiverse of madness Groundhog Day we call this date in org history.

I've asked elsewhere, I'll ask again here: what is the source for the "information" that Camille will be released this year?

Looking way back through Jack White's IG, I couldn't find any mention of this project.

CandaceS said: