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Why did Prince perform the Superbowl so late in his career ?

He was practically 50 years old when he performed it, 23 years after Purple Rain.

I wonder why it took so long for him to be invited ?

Were the organizers worried that he might pull some crazy stunt like the 95 VMA's ?

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Reply #1 posted 02/14/23 2:43pm

ShellyMcG

He was out of favour in the 90s right? So I'd guess that ruled him out of doing it during that decade. It was only really after Musicology came out that he was back in the public eye (in a positive way). So that's probably why?
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ShellyMcG said:

He was out of favour in the 90s right? So I'd guess that ruled him out of doing it during that decade. It was only really after Musicology came out that he was back in the public eye (in a positive way). So that's probably why?

He was kind of back in the public eye with Rave even though it flopped.

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Reply #3 posted 02/14/23 3:45pm

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ShellyMcG said:

He was out of favour in the 90s right? So I'd guess that ruled him out of doing it during that decade. It was only really after Musicology came out that he was back in the public eye (in a positive way). So that's probably why?


He wasn't out of favor in the 90s. He scored multiple hit singles.
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Reply #4 posted 02/14/23 3:55pm

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LoveGalore said:

ShellyMcG said:

He was out of favour in the 90s right? So I'd guess that ruled him out of doing it during that decade. It was only really after Musicology came out that he was back in the public eye (in a positive way). So that's probably why?


He wasn't out of favor in the 90s. He scored multiple hit singles.


Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/23 3:59pm

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ShellyMcG said:

LoveGalore said:
He wasn't out of favor in the 90s. He scored multiple hit singles.
Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.

Cream, Diamonds and Pearl, The Most Beautiful Girl, Get off were all hits at least in the early 90's. He lost his commercial appeal by the mid-90's with the WB situation.

He tried to make a come back with the Rave album but it didn't work out.

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Reply #6 posted 02/14/23 4:01pm

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I don't believe halftimes of the Super Bowls were big events until after Michael Jackson's halftime show, I think '93 Super Bowl. I may be wrong but that's how I remember it.

I also rememebr the halftime show having some interesting pairings of acts too.

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Reply #7 posted 02/14/23 4:08pm

LoveGalore

ShellyMcG said:

LoveGalore said:



He wasn't out of favor in the 90s. He scored multiple hit singles.


Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.


Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave.

He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/23 10:32pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

He was practically 50 years old when he performed it, 23 years after Purple Rain.

I wonder why it took so long for him to be invited ?

Were the organizers worried that he might pull some crazy stunt like the 95 VMA's ?


What does Purple Rain have to do with it? Nothing.

Who says he wasn't invited before 2007?

Crazy stunt? He didn't perform at the MTV VMAs in 1995. Or did you hear he did?

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Reply #9 posted 02/14/23 10:33pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

Cream, Diamonds and Pearl, The Most Beautiful Girl, Get off were all hits at least in the early 90's. He lost his commercial appeal by the mid-90's with the WB situation.

He tried to make a come back with the Rave album but it didn't work out.


You literally contradict yourself for the sake of making a comment.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #10 posted 02/15/23 6:30am

LoveGalore

TrivialPursuit said:



paisleyparkgirl said:


He was practically 50 years old when he performed it, 23 years after Purple Rain.


I wonder why it took so long for him to be invited ?


Were the organizers worried that he might pull some crazy stunt like the 95 VMA's ?





What does Purple Rain have to do with it? Nothing.

Who says he wasn't invited before 2007?

Crazy stunt? He didn't perform at the MTV VMAs in 1995. Or did you hear he did?



Don't tell her how old Mick Jagger, JLO, Madonna, the Death Row guys, or Springsteen were ...
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Reply #11 posted 02/15/23 6:46am

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scs2000 said:

I don't believe halftimes of the Super Bowls were big events until after Michael Jackson's halftime show, I think '93 Super Bowl. I may be wrong but that's how I remember it.

I also rememebr the halftime show having some interesting pairings of acts too.



Same here, MJ's performance is what made the halftime spectacle what they ar now.

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Reply #12 posted 02/15/23 6:48am

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

He was practically 50 years old when he performed it, 23 years after Purple Rain.

I wonder why it took so long for him to be invited ?

Were the organizers worried that he might pull some crazy stunt like the 95 VMA's ?


What does Purple Rain have to do with it? Nothing.

Who says he wasn't invited before 2007?

Crazy stunt? He didn't perform at the MTV VMAs in 1995. Or did you hear he did?


MTV EMA's in '95 where he did Peach, but that wasn't a crazy stunt, just a performance so I have no idea what she is on about.

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Reply #13 posted 02/15/23 6:54am

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In addition to what others have said: the NFL seemed to go exclusively for "safe" halftime performers in the years right after Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, calling on Paul McCartney and Rolling Stones to perform. They probably wanted to change things up after those two halftime shows and bring someone in who was a little more daring, but not enough to cause any issues. By that time, Prince had settled into a slightly classier and more toned down image and wasn't pushing the envelope like he did in the 80s and 90s, so he was probably a perfect fit for what they wanted at that time - familiar and exciting, but not scandalous.

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JorisE73 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


What does Purple Rain have to do with it? Nothing.

Who says he wasn't invited before 2007?

Crazy stunt? He didn't perform at the MTV VMAs in 1995. Or did you hear he did?


MTV EMA's in '95 where he did Peach, but that wasn't a crazy stunt, just a performance so I have no idea what she is on about.

I don't know, I was talking about that award show where he showed his ass cheeks.

I "heard" he was wearing a yellow outfit...something like that.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:30am]

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Cream, Diamonds and Pearl, The Most Beautiful Girl, Get off were all hits at least in the early 90's. He lost his commercial appeal by the mid-90's with the WB situation.

He tried to make a come back with the Rave album but it didn't work out.


You literally contradict yourself for the sake of making a comment.

And you are litterally annoying for the sake of being annoying.

I wish this forum had an ignore feature where I could place lovegalore and trivialpursuit so I wouldn't have to read your idiotic posts. Oh well...I guess I will just have to skip them.

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bozojones said:

In addition to what others have said: the NFL seemed to go exclusively for "safe" halftime performers in the years right after Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, calling on Paul McCartney and Rolling Stones to perform. They probably wanted to change things up after those two halftime shows and bring someone in who was a little more daring, but not enough to cause any issues. By that time, Prince had settled into a slightly classier and more toned down image and wasn't pushing the envelope like he did in the 80s and 90s, so he was probably a perfect fit for what they wanted at that time - familiar and exciting, but not scandalous.

At last, an intelligent comment.

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Reply #17 posted 02/15/23 7:35am

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:



JorisE73 said:




TrivialPursuit said:




What does Purple Rain have to do with it? Nothing.

Who says he wasn't invited before 2007?

Crazy stunt? He didn't perform at the MTV VMAs in 1995. Or did you hear he did?




MTV EMA's in '95 where he did Peach, but that wasn't a crazy stunt, just a performance so I have no idea what she is on about.




I don't know, I was talking about that award show where he showed his ass cheeks.



I "heard" he was wearing a yellow outfit...something like that.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:30am]



Lmao?? Just google it?? You're literally on the internet. Go Google it right now.
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/23 7:43am

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LoveGalore said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I don't know, I was talking about that award show where he showed his ass cheeks.

I "heard" he was wearing a yellow outfit...something like that.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:30am]

Lmao?? Just google it?? You're literally on the internet. Go Google it right now.

I love how you always miss the main picture and focus on irrelevant details.

You know what I'm talking about, stop being insufferable, it's not cute and very try hard.

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Reply #19 posted 02/15/23 7:51am

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:



LoveGalore said:


paisleyparkgirl said:



I don't know, I was talking about that award show where he showed his ass cheeks.



I "heard" he was wearing a yellow outfit...something like that.


[Edited 2/15/23 7:30am]



Lmao?? Just google it?? You're literally on the internet. Go Google it right now.


I love how you always miss the main picture and focus on irrelevant details.



You know what I'm talking about, stop being insufferable, it's not cute and very try hard.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:43am]



Nobody has to try hard at all. Your posts seem like performance art in how to be clueless.
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Reply #20 posted 02/15/23 8:01am

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LoveGalore said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I love how you always miss the main picture and focus on irrelevant details.

You know what I'm talking about, stop being insufferable, it's not cute and very try hard.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:43am]

Nobody has to try hard at all. Your posts seem like performance art in how to be clueless.

And yours seem like performance art in how to be obnoxious.

That's all you seem to do, instead of answering the questions being asked, you engage in failed sarcastic attempts.

Carry on though. I'll just ignore you from now.

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Reply #21 posted 02/15/23 8:16am

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LoveGalore said:

ShellyMcG said:
Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.
Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave. He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.



Most of his bigget hits in the '90s were at the very start of the decade, in 1991 or 1992 (Cream, D&P, Gett Off, 7). The only other *big* hit he had was TMBGITW, which was mid-decade, but that was kind of a one off.

None of the other stuff you listed (songs from Come and Emancipation) were not big hits. They were releeased and promoted, but the majority of the record buying public didn't care. Kids certainly weren't listening to those discs.

Back then, the people planning the Super Bowl halftime tended to lump musicians into two categories: established legend and current hip pop stars. Ideally they'd get one from each category at a show, so that they're have the best of both words (e.g. Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake). By 2007, Prince had graduated into the established legend category, so that's why he was targeted. But he wasn't about to share the stage with anyone, so that year they just went with a lengend and skipped the younger act.

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Reply #22 posted 02/15/23 8:38am

JorisE73

paisleyparkgirl said:

JorisE73 said:


MTV EMA's in '95 where he did Peach, but that wasn't a crazy stunt, just a performance so I have no idea what she is on about.

I don't know, I was talking about that award show where he showed his ass cheeks.

I "heard" he was wearing a yellow outfit...something like that.

[Edited 2/15/23 7:30am]


that was 1991, the pants had flesh color fabric between the yellow so it only looked like he was shwing his ass.

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Reply #23 posted 02/15/23 8:48am

LoveGalore

lurker316 said:



LoveGalore said:


ShellyMcG said:
Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.

Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave. He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.



Most of his bigget hits in the '90s were at the very start of the decade, in 1991 or 1992 (Cream, D&P, Gett Off, 7). The only other *big* hit he had was TMBGITW, which was mid-decade, but that was kind of a one off.

None of the other stuff you listed (songs from Come and Emancipation) were not big hits. They were releeased and promoted, but the majority of the record buying public didn't care. Kids certainly weren't listening to those discs.

Back then, the people planning the Super Bowl halftime tended to lump musicians into two categories: established legend and current hip pop stars. Ideally they'd get one from each category at a show, so that they're have the best of both words (e.g. Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake). By 2007, Prince had graduated into the established legend category, so that's why he was targeted. But he wasn't about to share the stage with anyone, so that year they just went with a lengend and skipped the younger act.



Are you sure you have that right?

1993: MJ
1994; Clint Black
1995; Patti LaBelle
1996; Diana Ross
1997: The Blues Brothers
1998; Boyz 2 Men, Smokey Robinson
1999: Gloria Estefan

So, no, I'm afraid it has nothing to do with his chart performance.
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/23 9:37am

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LoveGalore said:

ShellyMcG said:
Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.
Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave. He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.

These "hits" are known by no one except the hardcore Prince nerds here, aside from maybe D&P.


He plays them at any Superbowl and it would be literal crickets. There's a reason none of these "hits" came within 175 ft. of the actual Superbowl he performed at.

It's like when org'ers say "Mountains" was their favorite hit. You could pull that shit up on Spotify and accost 100 randos in Times Square and 0.0 of them would recognize that "hit" either.

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WhisperingDandelions said:

LoveGalore said:

ShellyMcG said: Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave. He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.

These "hits" are known by no one except the hardcore Prince nerds here, aside from maybe D&P.


He plays them at any Superbowl and it would be literal crickets. There's a reason none of these "hits" came within 175 ft. of the actual Superbowl he performed at.

It's like when org'ers say "Mountains" was their favorite hit. You could pull that shit up on Spotify and accost 100 randos in Times Square and 0.0 of them would recognize that "hit" either.

Everyone from that era knew Cream.

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Reply #26 posted 02/15/23 10:11am

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WhisperingDandelions said:



LoveGalore said:


ShellyMcG said:
Ah, I see. I was under the impression that he wasn't considered a big draw during that decade. Outside of Most Beautiful Girl In The World, of course. I personally like a lot of his 90s music but I'm not old enough to remember it as it was released. But I only ever read about his 80s hits. I never really hear much about the 90s.

Cream, Diamonds and Pearls, Gett Off, Sexy MF, 7, TMBGITW, Letitgo, I Hate U were all successful singles before the contract ended. In 1996, Emancipation was a huge event and he had his Oprah interview which was a big deal back then. He was pretty low key in 97 and then he had a big media push for NPS and then another for Rave. He did not have a multiple platinum album every year in the 90s but as a person 15 years into a music career, he did pretty decent. I would say it was much more quiet for Prince from 2000 to 2004 and then again from 2010-2014.

These "hits" are known by no one except the hardcore Prince nerds here, aside from maybe D&P.



He plays them at any Superbowl and it would be literal crickets. There's a reason none of these "hits" came within 175 ft. of the actual Superbowl he performed at.

It's like when org'ers say "Mountains" was their favorite hit. You could pull that shit up on Spotify and accost 100 randos in Times Square and 0.0 of them would recognize that "hit" either.



Why are you "quoting" the word "hits" when "I" said "successful singles" which is the fucking "truth"?
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JorisE73 said:

MTV EMA's in '95 where he did Peach, but that wasn't a crazy stunt, just a performance so I have no idea what she is on about.


Well you know that, and I know that. Does she know that? (Probably not.)

She said VMA so that's why I was going with. And you're right, there was no "stunt." It's a stupid comment on her part.

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Reply #28 posted 02/15/23 12:52pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

And you are litterally annoying for the sake of being annoying.

I wish this forum had an ignore feature where I could place lovegalore and trivialpursuit so I wouldn't have to read your idiotic posts. Oh well...I guess I will just have to skip them.


Nope, I'm calling you out for your half-witted and ill-informed posts. You post for the sake of it. You don't offer anything new, just trolling under a new title.

In fact, this is probably one of many names you've used in the past because your posts are exactly like previous users that "heard" this or "heard about" that. Your profile says you're obsessed as a fan, but you don't seem to know a goddamn thing.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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LoveGalore said:


Lmao?? Just google it?? You're literally on the internet. Go Google it right now.


You silly git. She can't get attention that way.

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