Reply #60 posted 01/20/23 4:37pm
WhisperingDand elions
|
LoveGalore said:
WhisperingDandelions said:
...which was the point of the post.
...where? Before or after the "would have"? I'm saying he basically did. I'm saying your premise is not just a fantasy as you depict it in your post. And that bossa Nova song is no more or less Babyface than other Zzz stuff like "Walk In Sand" and "Better With Time" and other snoozefests.
The premise isn't fantasy. It's reality. Prince fans (you) perceive his later songs as L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs anyway (again, you), to the extent where they're now on a soapbox arguing that they are in fact L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs (once more, you) like I wasn't the one who brought the concept to the table. I literally agreed with you to begin the conversation.
And Prince fans like you discard Bria and similar material as forgettable/phoned/in.... probably dislike the instrumental stuff too, sooo, he could have just saved time hiring L.A./Babyface/Teddy... like my post stated.. and you agree. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #61 posted 01/20/23 4:39pm
RJOrion |
LoveGalore said: RJOrion said:
Top 5 is definitely hyperbole, but its a sweet little song...i thought it would be Carmen Electra type awful...thats why i never even bothered checking it out until today
Shit is elevator music. Even the dancier tracks are comedically benign. It's kind of a shame he tacked this record onto LF because both LF and MPLSound blow Elixer outta the water. Now, had he done his own vocals and not specifically built the songs to be sung by a thin voiced burly woman, perhaps songs like the title track (easily the best song on the offering) maybe he woulda been onto something. Her music is not gonna set anyone's soul ablaze, but i dig the sultry, laid back aesthetic to her songs...i can see why you call it "elevator music", but sometimes i dig that kinda vibe...especially from a female vocalist that has the voice to pull it off...she's even better looking than i thought she was, so theres that too 😎 |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #62 posted 01/20/23 4:42pm
RJOrion |
Yo...you called ol girl "burly"... ...she does have a manly type build, but her face comes off pretty on video...no?...LOL |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #63 posted 01/20/23 4:42pm
LoveGalore |
WhisperingDandelions said:
LoveGalore said:
WhisperingDandelions said:
...which was the point of the post.
...where? Before or after the "would have"? I'm saying he basically did. I'm saying your premise is not just a fantasy as you depict it in your post. And that bossa Nova song is no more or less Babyface than other Zzz stuff like "Walk In Sand" and "Better With Time" and other snoozefests.
The premise isn't fantasy. It's reality. Prince fans (you) perceive his later songs as L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs anyway (again, you), to the extent where they're now on a soapbox arguing that they are in fact L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs (once more, you) like I wasn't the one who brought the concept to the table. I literally agreed with you to begin the conversation.
And Prince fans like you discard Bria and similar material as forgettable/phoned/in.... probably dislike the instrumental stuff too, sooo, he could have just saved time hiring L.A./Babyface/Teddy... like my post stated.. and you agree.
Since you decided to waltz up in here and be a passive aggressive bitch, let me get you together one time. Here is your post:
"The whole Elixer album is fire. Majority of Prince fans have such disdain for any time he didn't sing on the track. Sometimes it's like man he wasted so much energy on instruments and production when 80% of the fanbase would've rode with him just as hard if he was a singer-for-hire singing Babyface & L.A. Reid songs. He could've saved so much time just phoning up Teddy Riley, showing up to a 4-hour vocal session and calling it a career as far as some are concerned."
You are presenting this as if it didn't happen. That is how "when/if" works. Me saying that he basically DID DO this is different than "when/if" in a scenario that didn't actually fucking happen (spoiler; Prince didn't do session vocals for anyone).
Me saying he had a penchant for bland RnB is me AGREEING with only that part of your FANTASY. Clear? [Edited 1/20/23 16:43pm] |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #64 posted 01/20/23 4:45pm
WhisperingDand elions
|
LoveGalore said:
RJOrion said:
Top 5 is definitely hyperbole, but its a sweet little song...i thought it would be Carmen Electra type awful...thats why i never even bothered checking it out until today
Shit is elevator music. Even the dancier tracks are comedically benign. It's kind of a shame he tacked this record onto LF because both LF and MPLSound blow Elixer outta the water. Now, had he done his own vocals and not specifically built the songs to be sung by a thin voiced burly woman, perhaps songs like the title track (easily the best song on the offering) maybe he woulda been onto something.
MPLSound? So phoned in he even brought back the Linn drum... or at least the Linn drum sample kit in the 2004 cracked Kazaa download of Fruity Loops.
Call "Everytime" boring, but it's at least something new. His 80s throwback Prince karaoke bonus disc is both boring and cringeworthy retreads. You're also part of another subsection of the fanbase that would've been so hype if he released Purple Rain II in '85 and Purple Rain III in '86, aren't you?
We could've been on Purple Rain LVI by now like the Super Bowl if he didn't fumble the bag. Oh, what could have been.
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #65 posted 01/20/23 4:52pm
WhisperingDand elions
|
LoveGalore said:
WhisperingDandelions said:
The premise isn't fantasy. It's reality. Prince fans (you) perceive his later songs as L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs anyway (again, you), to the extent where they're now on a soapbox arguing that they are in fact L.A. Reid/Babyface/Teddy songs (once more, you) like I wasn't the one who brought the concept to the table. I literally agreed with you to begin the conversation.
And Prince fans like you discard Bria and similar material as forgettable/phoned/in.... probably dislike the instrumental stuff too, sooo, he could have just saved time hiring L.A./Babyface/Teddy... like my post stated.. and you agree.
Since you decided to waltz up in here and be a passive aggressive bitch, let me get you together one time. Here is your post: "The whole Elixer album is fire. Majority of Prince fans have such disdain for any time he didn't sing on the track. Sometimes it's like man he wasted so much energy on instruments and production when 80% of the fanbase would've rode with him just as hard if he was a singer-for-hire singing Babyface & L.A. Reid songs. He could've saved so much time just phoning up Teddy Riley, showing up to a 4-hour vocal session and calling it a career as far as some are concerned." You are presenting this as if it didn't happen. That is how "when/if" works. Me saying that he basically DID DO this is different than "when/if" in a scenario that didn't actually fucking happen (spoiler; Prince didn't do session vocals for anyone). Me saying he had a penchant for bland RnB is me AGREEING with only that part of your FANTASY. Clear? [Edited 1/20/23 16:43pm]
You want to do the OCD internal post point-by-point break down now, when you normally throw tantrums about posts that exceed half a paragraph?
Nuh uh Lucy, I don't fall for that football trick anymore. And while your creepy obsessive breakdowns of my arbitrary commentary you claimed to abhor in the first place are fantastic insights into your psyche, you're boring the org with these page-spanning preoccupations.
Defend that shitty MPLSound record. Discuss Prince, his music, etc. here
[Edited 1/20/23 16:53pm] |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #66 posted 01/21/23 11:39am
TheTruth123 |
LoveGalore said:
I can't imagine there were too many. LotusFlower and MPLSound aren't heavy with the new love songs and several of them are certainly about other women. 20TEN is possible. Maybe he wrote Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything about her. I'm more convinced that they weren't actually very close and she was more of a muse.
No, she was his girlfriend. They were hot -- until:
she says she wanted someone who really lived by the precepts of JW
he never said anything of course but I think he moved on to other girls
Then it is said she went onto some websites saying she was someone else and stanning for herself. At that point Prince understands and is kind but gets turned off. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #67 posted 01/21/23 12:19pm
paisleyparkgir l
|
TheTruth123 said:
LoveGalore said:
I can't imagine there were too many. LotusFlower and MPLSound aren't heavy with the new love songs and several of them are certainly about other women. 20TEN is possible. Maybe he wrote Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything about her. I'm more convinced that they weren't actually very close and she was more of a muse.
she says she wanted someone who really lived by the precepts of JW
I wish she would elaborate on that. Prince was honest with the fact that he wasn't perfect and what mattered was that he tried (I think it was either the Ebony or the Rolling Stone interview). |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #68 posted 01/21/23 3:04pm
LILpoundCAKE |
"Another Boy" was written for Mani, as "Another Girl", i think?
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #69 posted 01/21/23 4:54pm
LoveGalore |
TheTruth123 said:
LoveGalore said: I can't imagine there were too many. LotusFlower and MPLSound aren't heavy with the new love songs and several of them are certainly about other women. 20TEN is possible. Maybe he wrote Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything about her. I'm more convinced that they weren't actually very close and she was more of a muse.
No, she was his girlfriend. They were hot -- until: she says she wanted someone who really lived by the precepts of JW he never said anything of course but I think he moved on to other girls Then it is said she went onto some websites saying she was someone else and stanning for herself. At that point Prince understands and is kind but gets turned off. Well that's a pretty crazy way to fuck up your relationship with a megastar. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #70 posted 01/25/23 8:56am
MusicFan20Ten
|
Has anyone mentioned Turn Me Loose? While doing some research for a blog post I have in the works, I came across a Dr Funkenberry thread on Twitter saying TML was apparently written about/inspired by Bria ~ who didn't like/approve of it one bit eye dont think U heard me . . . |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #71 posted 01/25/23 11:54am
Reply #72 posted 01/25/23 1:17pm
paisleyparkgir l
|
MusicFan20Ten said:
Has anyone mentioned Turn Me Loose? While doing some research for a blog post I have in the works, I came across a Dr Funkenberry thread on Twitter saying TML was apparently written about/inspired by Bria ~ who didn't like/approve of it one bit
It's one of those songs I never checked for but now I'm going to look up the lyrics hehe. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #73 posted 01/25/23 1:22pm
RJOrion |
TrivialPursuit said: Lol...nah...that one's about Kirky's Johnson. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #74 posted 01/25/23 1:23pm
LoveGalore |
MusicFan20Ten said: Has anyone mentioned Turn Me Loose? While doing some research for a blog post I have in the works, I came across a Dr Funkenberry thread on Twitter saying TML was apparently written about/inspired by Bria ~ who didn't like/approve of it one bit I never heard that Bria didn't care for it but I did hear that the JWs didn't and that this led to it being removed from consideration for an album (probably LF). The studio version that was played on the radio and his live performance were both fire and the best damn song he had come out with in a LONG time. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #75 posted 01/25/23 1:42pm
paisleyparkgir l
|
LoveGalore said:
MusicFan20Ten said:
Has anyone mentioned Turn Me Loose? While doing some research for a blog post I have in the works, I came across a Dr Funkenberry thread on Twitter saying TML was apparently written about/inspired by Bria ~ who didn't like/approve of it one bit
I never heard that Bria didn't care for it but I did hear that the JWs didn't and that this led to it being removed from consideration for an album (probably LF). The studio version that was played on the radio and his live performance were both fire and the best damn song he had come out with in a LONG time.
So the JW liked Mellow and didn't care for Turn me loose ? |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #76 posted 01/25/23 1:50pm
LoveGalore |
lurker316 said:
LoveGalore said: lurker316 said:
Are any Prince sings about Manuela? Come on now. Nearly the entirety of Rainbow Children is about her and her induction into the cult.
I know that Manuela helped (along with Larry) to lure him into the cult. And I know that Rainbow Children is generally about his joiing the cult. But outside of She Loves Me for 4 Me, where is Manueal's role, or simply Prince's affection for her, mentioned in Rainbdow Children?
You may be correct. I know the tone of the written word can sometimes come across wrong, so to be clear, I'm not arguing with you. I'm genuinely interested if you can't point to specific examples. I love that album and listen to it all the time, but I'm almost exclusively listening to its music. I don't pay attention to its lyrics. I let them pass over me. So I'm totally willing to believe it's full of Manuela references that I've just not picked up on.
Well, let's see. Songs on TRC directed at or about a woman: 1+1+1 is 3 Mellow The Sensual Everafter She Loves Me 4 Me Songs that reference his new girlie or the happiness he found getting away from the outcasts: Rainbow Children Everlasting Now Everywhere I think the album is pretty clear - he left his last marriage and some friends and found happiness in JW and his new relationship. The album isn't solely about JW beliefs, rather telling his story of how he became a witness which also includes his new relationship. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #77 posted 01/25/23 10:27pm
Reply #78 posted 01/26/23 12:58am
LILpoundCAKE |
Gooddoctor23 said:
THEY DID NOT DATE.
hey bria, I'm in the minority on this site but I like your album a lot, lots of nice tunes.
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #79 posted 01/26/23 4:21am
dodger07
|
LILpoundCAKE said:
Gooddoctor23 said:
THEY DID NOT DATE.
hey bria, I'm in the minority on this site but I like your album a lot, lots of nice tunes.
Agree with this after listening to it a few times this week on my commute to work.
.
I know some say it's elevator music, it's Sade-lite, her voice isn't great etc but I was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it. Of course she's no Rosie but her voice suits this laid back vibe.
.
Really liking Something U Already Know. The line 'your favourite song is Home' (the previous track on the album) is my kind of clever nerdy shit |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #80 posted 01/26/23 7:04am
paisleyparkgir l
|
Gooddoctor23 said:
THEY DID NOT DATE.
And you know this for a fact because ? |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #81 posted 01/26/23 7:10am
RJOrion |
Ive been listening to Bria Valente and Ingrid Chavez for the first time over the last couple weeks...both those albums are surprisingly good Paisley Park protege albums |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #82 posted 01/26/23 7:24am
TrivialPursuit
|
LILpoundCAKE said:
Gooddoctor23 said:
THEY DID NOT DATE.
hey bria, I'm in the minority on this site but I like your album a lot, lots of nice tunes.
Said no one. Seems there's a reason it's not part of the streaming package on Prince's discography. It sux.
Is it on streaming anywhere? I honestly don't know.
Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #83 posted 01/26/23 10:34am
LILpoundCAKE |
TrivialPursuit said:
LILpoundCAKE said:
hey bria, I'm in the minority on this site but I like your album a lot, lots of nice tunes.
Said no one. Seems there's a reason it's not part of the streaming package on Prince's discography. It sux.
Is it on streaming anywhere? I honestly don't know.
I respectfully disagree then I like this album, there are a few very good songs on there that would have been little gems on any late era prince album (another boy, here I come, all this love and a few more).
The rest of treads pretty much the same ground as anything musicology-3121-planetearth so I always fail to understand why people say they don't even want to listen to it once
Still, for those who did listen to the whole thing and just hated it or did not like it at all, that is of course perfectly fine, everyone has different things they like.
But I wonder if it's because it's bria singing that this album resonates so little?
I mean, if we put prince vocals on all these songs, as an album it's better than MPLSound, which was basically 2 very cool songs, surrounded by lots of fluff and padding.
|
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #84 posted 01/26/23 12:07pm
paisleyparkgir l
|
Bria's album is better than the Vanity 6 and Appolonia 6 stuff that's for sure.
I hope Prince recorded his versions of the songs. [Edited 1/26/23 12:08pm] |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #85 posted 01/26/23 12:55pm
nayroo2002
|
paisleyparkgirl said:
Bria's album is better than the Vanity 6 and Appolonia 6 stuff that's for sure.
I hope Prince recorded his versions of the songs.
[Edited 1/26/23 12:08pm]
Proof of later ventures.
But, hold on PPgirl!
"Nasty Girl" is priceless!!! "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Reply #86 posted 01/26/23 1:17pm
paisleyparkgir l
|
nayroo2002 said:
paisleyparkgirl said:
Bria's album is better than the Vanity 6 and Appolonia 6 stuff that's for sure.
I hope Prince recorded his versions of the songs.
[Edited 1/26/23 12:08pm]
Proof of later ventures.
But, hold on PPgirl!
"Nasty Girl" is priceless!!!
I'm not talking about the music itself, just the voices. I love Vanity but this girl could not sing to save her life. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
copyright © 1998-2024 prince.org. all rights reserved.