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Thread started 07/04/22 5:31pm

mechanicalemot
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Anna Fantastic on Appolonia's podcast speaking on her relationship with Prince

She admits to spending the night with him on the first night meeting him.

She was 15yrs old.

R Kelly just got 30yrs for that
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Reply #1 posted 07/04/22 6:03pm

TrivialPursuit

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Let's be clear here, and not try to lump anyone in with someone like Jeffrey Epstein or R. Kelly.

Robert was found guilty of the following:

  • One count of Racketeering
  • Eight Mann Act violations:
    • Three counts of transportation across state lines for illegal sexual activity
    • Four counts coercion and enticement
    • One count of transportation of a minor

He was also diagnosed with hypersexuality, and had been doing what he did for twenty-five years, which included degredation, imprisonment, kidnapping, sexual abuse, rape, and so much more.

By the way, it's one P and two Ls in Apollonia. (Honestly, took me most of my teens to remember that, myself.)

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Reply #2 posted 07/04/22 6:31pm

laytonian

How many versions can she tell?
For years, she's said she slept in the same bed with him but never had sex until she was 18 (same as with Mayte).

Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.

Here's her story:
https://theiconicprince.w...urned-18/'

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Reply #3 posted 07/04/22 6:57pm

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laytonian said:


Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.


Yeah, he loved women, and even ones younger than himself, but he was no pedophile trying to fuck 15-year-olds.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 07/04/22 7:51pm

bozojones

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.

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Reply #5 posted 07/04/22 7:53pm

bozojones

TrivialPursuit said:

laytonian said:


Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.


Yeah, he loved women, and even ones younger than himself, but he was no pedophile trying to fuck 15-year-olds.

He was attracted enough to them to keep them around until he could legally get away with it, so clearly he wanted to sleep with teenagers on some level.

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Reply #6 posted 07/04/22 8:07pm

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bozojones said:

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.

There's nothing alleged about it. Anna says that's the way it happened and she was there. rolleyes

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Reply #7 posted 07/04/22 10:10pm

LoveGalore

purplethunder3121 said:



bozojones said:


Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.



There's nothing alleged about it. Anna says that's the way it happened and she was there. rolleyes



It's still pretty gross to think a 15 year old is so sexy that you fantasize about them becoming legal and wait for the occasion and dump her shortly after for another 15 year old, lol.
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Reply #8 posted 07/04/22 10:12pm

bozojones

LoveGalore said:

purplethunder3121 said:

There's nothing alleged about it. Anna says that's the way it happened and she was there. rolleyes

It's still pretty gross to think a 15 year old is so sexy that you fantasize about them becoming legal and wait for the occasion and dump her shortly after for another 15 year old, lol.

Exactly. Funny how they completely ignored that point to nitpick over semantics

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Reply #9 posted 07/05/22 2:39am

antonb

Its wrong for sure, what he did, but do i think he was a pedophile. I dont think he was. Prince with everything was a control freak. And this is 2 cases of it. And there are many more situations of him being that way. With ladies and work and men for that matter. It was one of his flaws. Yes he took advantage of his situation. the only little escuse i give him is he had a relasonship with them that lasted quite a while and they both wanted to have a relasonship with him. And have said that even now, they dont think there was anything seedy about there time with him. However Its a good job they dont feel that way!

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Reply #10 posted 07/05/22 6:03am

Milty2

Omg the shit storm this thread is going to create.....

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Reply #11 posted 07/05/22 6:25am

laytonian

May I remind all you pearl-clutchers that the age of consent in Anna's native land (the UK) is 16.

He didn't have sex with her until she was 18.

"Grooming" - seriously?


Y'all Qanon Republicans need to look at your own relationships and how they develop.

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Reply #12 posted 07/05/22 7:12am

LoveGalore

laytonian said:

May I remind all you pearl-clutchers that the age of consent in Anna's native land (the UK) is 16.

He didn't have sex with her until she was 18.

"Grooming" - seriously?



Y'all Qanon Republicans need to look at your own relationships and how they develop.



I couldn't be further from a Republican or a Qanon person.

And yeah it's pretty much the definition of grooming to send love letters and love songs to a 15 year old child so that they're ready to fuck when it's legal.

No way to spin it innocently. It should even be weird to you that a man his age was so preoccupied with teenagers legal or otherwise. Are you telling me that when you were 30, you routinely thought 15 year olds were sexy? If it's no big deal, I'm sure you can admit that you think 15 year olds are sexy too. You'd be fine admitting to sending an impressionable child love letters and other GIFTS to keep them on the hook until they're legal. That would sound totally plausible in your world. Do tell.
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Reply #13 posted 07/05/22 7:22am

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lol @ the idea that just cos he had many available women, he wouldnt 'need' to try and sleep with a teenager.

as if.

he didnt 'need' to, but he quite obv wanted to. and likely, did.

not the first star to do so. hes in good company. jimmy page, marvin gaye, etc etc.

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Reply #14 posted 07/05/22 7:40am

antonb

Well you know 15 year old's have sex! And with older men and women! Were all different! It happens . And doesn't get reported. Because alot of the time it is consensual. The two ladies in question are not stupid. And they insist they were more than happy with the situation. Even looking back as much more mature ladies. So its a complex situation really. Not something I would do though! Just trying to keep it in perpective. Hes no R Kelly! I dont agree to comparing him to the likes of him. Rock stars back in the day slept with loads of women, some i bet were under age. Saying that they were drunk or stoned half the time. I do personally feel uncomfortable about it though. Being a father myself.

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Reply #15 posted 07/05/22 8:42am

bozojones

"Actually it's okay for a 30 year old man to be attracted to a 15 year old girl because she wanted it too" - are y'all hearing yourselves? Holy shit....
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Reply #16 posted 07/05/22 8:43am

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well yeah, ive not heard the podcast, but i wouldnt be surprised if she was up for it. i.e. im sure it wasnt totally coercive. but there is a power balance, him being older, famous, etc etc, and her not. so it would be interesting to see how she actually feels about it. but yes, 15 year olds are not all stupid. that said, the mayte story does sound worse, and closer to grooming. it could have been simply more innocent, ie him just waiting until the right age, and them being friends until then, but its clear he had his eye on a certain end target.

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Reply #17 posted 07/05/22 8:54am

antonb

Not saying its ok, I remember a class mate of mine seeing a much older guy. And thinking that's strange. However She wasn't freaked out by it and thought it was normal. And she was a smart girl, with a great background. It happens is all I'm saying. There was a teacher at my wife's school who started a relationship with a pupal. Whom he later married, and are still together years later. Not the perfect way of meeting your partner in my book, but it goes on!

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Reply #18 posted 07/05/22 9:08am

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right, i knew girls in their mid teens who dated guys in their mid to late 20s.

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Reply #19 posted 07/05/22 9:17am

LoveGalore

antonb said:

Well you know 15 year old's have sex! And with older men and women! Were all different! It happens . And doesn't get reported. Because alot of the time it is consensual. The two ladies in question are not stupid. And they insist they were more than happy with the situation. Even looking back as much more mature ladies. So its a complex situation really. Not something I would do though! Just trying to keep it in perpective. Hes no R Kelly! I dont agree to comparing him to the likes of him. Rock stars back in the day slept with loads of women, some i bet were under age. Saying that they were drunk or stoned half the time. I do personally feel uncomfortable about it though. Being a father myself.



Bro, I don't care how smart any 15 year old. They can barely fathom what consent even means. To think that a 15 year old is equipped to make life altering decisions is wonderful and pie in the sky, but not reality.

Men in their 30s should let kids be kids and not pounce on the first legal opportunity to rob them of their innocence from a privileged vantage point.
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Reply #20 posted 07/05/22 9:47am

bozojones

I'm sure plenty of teen girls would love to hook up with significantly older men, doesn't mean that the men who take advantage of that are in the right in any way. Grown adults should fucking know better.
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Reply #21 posted 07/05/22 9:49am

LoveGalore

bozojones said:

I'm sure plenty of teen girls would love to hook up with significantly older men, doesn't mean that the men who take advantage of that are in the right in any way. Grown adults should fucking know better.


I can't even fathom, at my age, being preoccupied with a 15 year old. First kf all, wtf. Second of all, huh? Third of all, holy boring. The fuck did they talk about? The most recent episode of Jem & the Holograms?
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Reply #22 posted 07/05/22 9:51am

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LoveGalore said:

bozojones said:
I'm sure plenty of teen girls would love to hook up with significantly older men, doesn't mean that the men who take advantage of that are in the right in any way. Grown adults should fucking know better.
I can't even fathom, at my age, being preoccupied with a 15 year old. First kf all, wtf. Second of all, huh? Third of all, holy boring. The fuck did they talk about? The most recent episode of Jem & the Holograms?

doubt the relationship is based on conversation.

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Reply #23 posted 07/05/22 9:56am

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I read somewhere that she said he slept on her bed, but Prince didnt want to have sex with her until the day she turned 18 (which made her very frustrated). Don´t know if it´s true, but that´s what she said.

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Anyway, it´s strange that Prince really liked very young teens in this phase of his life. Mayte and Marianne Cotrin were 16 or something like that.


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Reply #24 posted 07/05/22 10:01am

funkbabyandthe
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Prince didnt want to have sex with her until the day she turned 18. Don´t know if it´s true, but that´s what she said.

wonder how soon after midnight he wanted to celebrate the birthday.

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Reply #25 posted 07/05/22 10:06am

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Is this a cancelation offense? Not for me. I'm not going to waste a lot of debating it beyond making RKelly comparisons. Dude is in jail for trying to screw over the government 1st and then for having too many parents coming looking for their disappeared daughters. Stop oversimplifying s*** to make a non-point. Too many men and women have had sex with the under aged. Hell Brooke Shields had a whole career playing off that fantasy. It's been a part of the cultural acceptable taboo since forever. It's only now has the emphasis been put on how damaging it is to the individuals and society. The fake outrage just to keep getting an outrage fix is boring has f*** to be spending hours arguing about it.
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Reply #26 posted 07/05/22 11:01am

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Milty2 said:

Omg the shit storm this thread is going to create.....

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #27 posted 07/05/22 11:12am

lavendardrumma
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I mean, he's gone. We know he had some ugly sides to his personality.

I always wondered why Anna Fantastic isn't talked about more, and this is probably why. Deep down people knew this. Even if he waited, it wasn't exactly appropriate to romance her.

She seems... normal and (assuming this intervew isn't any different), she talks like they had a healthy relationship, or whatever it was.

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Reply #28 posted 07/05/22 11:15am

RJOrion

bozojones said:[quote]

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.

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Reply #29 posted 07/05/22 11:35am

RJOrion

Its hilarious that people who were never there, can speak with 100% certainty about whether or not Prince had sex with underage girls or even adult age males...none of yall were there to be able to speak on where he put his dick or mouth...stop it...and as far as Anna Fantastic, Apollonia, Suzannah, Sheila E., or Charlene Friend, etc...unless these women are testifying under oath, their tales of a dead man's dick should be taken with a grain of salt...people lie everyday...for a multitude of reasons...while its pretty clear from all accounts (even his own) that he groomed Mayte, the rest of them women ALL get the side eye...not saying theyre liars or theyre not...but if the story didnt come from Prince's mouth, it cant be confirmed at all...and he was capable of telling a lie, too...so its all a moot point...let that man and his secrets, rest in peace
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