Let's be clear here, and not try to lump anyone in with someone like Jeffrey Epstein or R. Kelly.

Robert was found guilty of the following:

• One count of Racketeering
• Eight Mann Act violations:
  • Three counts of transportation across state lines for illegal sexual activity
  • Four counts coercion and enticement
  • One count of transportation of a minor

He was also diagnosed with hypersexuality, and had been doing what he did for twenty-five years, which included degredation, imprisonment, kidnapping, sexual abuse, rape, and so much more.

By the way, it's one P and two Ls in Apollonia. (Honestly, took me most of my teens to remember that, myself.)

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How many versions can she tell?
For years, she's said she slept in the same bed with him but never had sex until she was 18 (same as with Mayte).

Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.

Here's her story:
https://theiconicprince.w...urned-18/'

laytonian said:

Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.

Yeah, he loved women, and even ones younger than himself, but he was no pedophile trying to fuck 15-year-olds.

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.

TrivialPursuit said:

laytonian said:

Here's what I think: the man didn't have to sex it up with the underaged; he had women on a string everywhere, romancing all of them at the same time. The younger ones had to wait. He didn't want ANY trouble -- and he never had it.

Yeah, he loved women, and even ones younger than himself, but he was no pedophile trying to fuck 15-year-olds.

He was attracted enough to them to keep them around until he could legally get away with it, so clearly he wanted to sleep with teenagers on some level.

bozojones said:

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.

There's nothing alleged about it. Anna says that's the way it happened and she was there.

purplethunder3121 said:

LoveGalore said:

purplethunder3121 said:

There's nothing alleged about it. Anna says that's the way it happened and she was there.

It's still pretty gross to think a 15 year old is so sexy that you fantasize about them becoming legal and wait for the occasion and dump her shortly after for another 15 year old, lol.

Exactly. Funny how they completely ignored that point to nitpick over semantics

Its wrong for sure, what he did, but do i think he was a pedophile. I dont think he was. Prince with everything was a control freak. And this is 2 cases of it. And there are many more situations of him being that way. With ladies and work and men for that matter. It was one of his flaws. Yes he took advantage of his situation. the only little escuse i give him is he had a relasonship with them that lasted quite a while and they both wanted to have a relasonship with him. And have said that even now, they dont think there was anything seedy about there time with him. However Its a good job they dont feel that way!

Omg the shit storm this thread is going to create.....

May I remind all you pearl-clutchers that the age of consent in Anna's native land (the UK) is 16.

He didn't have sex with her until she was 18.

"Grooming" - seriously?

Y'all Qanon Republicans need to look at your own relationships and how they develop.

laytonian said:

lol @ the idea that just cos he had many available women, he wouldnt 'need' to try and sleep with a teenager.

as if.

he didnt 'need' to, but he quite obv wanted to. and likely, did.

not the first star to do so. hes in good company. jimmy page, marvin gaye, etc etc.

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Well you know 15 year old's have sex! And with older men and women! Were all different! It happens . And doesn't get reported. Because alot of the time it is consensual. The two ladies in question are not stupid. And they insist they were more than happy with the situation. Even looking back as much more mature ladies. So its a complex situation really. Not something I would do though! Just trying to keep it in perpective. Hes no R Kelly! I dont agree to comparing him to the likes of him. Rock stars back in the day slept with loads of women, some i bet were under age. Saying that they were drunk or stoned half the time. I do personally feel uncomfortable about it though. Being a father myself.

well yeah, ive not heard the podcast, but i wouldnt be surprised if she was up for it. i.e. im sure it wasnt totally coercive. but there is a power balance, him being older, famous, etc etc, and her not. so it would be interesting to see how she actually feels about it. but yes, 15 year olds are not all stupid. that said, the mayte story does sound worse, and closer to grooming. it could have been simply more innocent, ie him just waiting until the right age, and them being friends until then, but its clear he had his eye on a certain end target.

Not saying its ok, I remember a class mate of mine seeing a much older guy. And thinking that's strange. However She wasn't freaked out by it and thought it was normal. And she was a smart girl, with a great background. It happens is all I'm saying. There was a teacher at my wife's school who started a relationship with a pupal. Whom he later married, and are still together years later. Not the perfect way of meeting your partner in my book, but it goes on!

right, i knew girls in their mid teens who dated guys in their mid to late 20s.

antonb said:

bozojones said:

LoveGalore said:

bozojones said:

I'm sure plenty of teen girls would love to hook up with significantly older men, doesn't mean that the men who take advantage of that are in the right in any way. Grown adults should fucking know better.

I can't even fathom, at my age, being preoccupied with a 15 year old. First kf all, wtf. Second of all, huh? Third of all, holy boring. The fuck did they talk about? The most recent episode of Jem & the Holograms?

doubt the relationship is based on conversation.

I read somewhere that she said he slept on her bed, but Prince didnt want to have sex with her until the day she turned 18 (which made her very frustrated). Don´t know if it´s true, but that´s what she said.

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Anyway, it´s strange that Prince really liked very young teens in this phase of his life. Mayte and Marianne Cotrin were 16 or something like that.

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Prince didnt want to have sex with her until the day she turned 18. Don´t know if it´s true, but that´s what she said.

wonder how soon after midnight he wanted to celebrate the birthday.

Milty2 said:

Omg the shit storm this thread is going to create.....

I mean, he's gone. We know he had some ugly sides to his personality.

I always wondered why Anna Fantastic isn't talked about more, and this is probably why. Deep down people knew this. Even if he waited, it wasn't exactly appropriate to romance her.

She seems... normal and (assuming this intervew isn't any different), she talks like they had a healthy relationship, or whatever it was.

Hoo boy, can't wait to see how some of the fans on here try to spin this. What Prince did to Anna and Mayte was pretty much textbook grooming. Doesn't matter that you like his music, doesn't matter that he wasn't as horrific as people like R. Kelly or Epstein, it was still wrong and really fucking creepy. The legality of him (allegedly) waiting until they were 18 to do anything doesn't make it better.

I love Prince's music as much as anyone else here, but you've gotta recognize the dude's shortcomings instead of sweeping them under the rug.