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Reply #150 posted 07/21/22 11:34am

BIGJAYRAFFAS

Well while we wait to see if gets announced soon, I have been looking on princevault to see what could be some of the vault tracks!, obviously there may be lots more that are totally unheard of...

Here u go!

Schoolyard

Alice

Boombox

Gett Off's Cousin

Do U Wanna Rock

Joyful Sound

Last Dance

Small Bright Light

Stroke

Uh Huh

Waiting 4 Your Love

Work That Fat

Baby Doll

Son Of Sexy MF

Player

Letter 4 Miles

Something Funky (This House Comes)

Fancy Dancer

Hold Me

Open Book

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Reply #151 posted 07/21/22 11:49am

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I am most interested in what prince recorded on his own, without the NPG members.
Stuff like Thunder etc. It will be very interesting to hear what he was working on by
himself and what direction such an album might have taken.

Hoping there are many more tracks than what is known now (on princevault).

It's not that I don't like the NPG on tracks. For example Something Funky (THC) is a
track that is -maybe surprisingly- one of my most played tracks of last year lol

I just love it. Both versions that we have on boots.

So some more Prince + NPG tracks are most welcome but I'm truly looking forward
to seeing what might be in the vault, starting this period of tighter control of leaks,
that we know nothing about.

"if U're lookin' 4 dirt look in Ur own back yard / plant some peace flowers in Ur warzone so I can fire my bodyguards."
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Reply #152 posted 07/21/22 11:59am

BIGJAYRAFFAS

LILpoundCAKE said:

I am most interested in what prince recorded on his own, without the NPG members.
Stuff like Thunder etc. It will be very interesting to hear what he was working on by
himself and what direction such an album might have taken.

Hoping there are many more tracks than what is known now (on princevault).

It's not that I don't like the NPG on tracks. For example Something Funky (THC) is a
track that is -maybe surprisingly- one of my most played tracks of last year lol

I just love it. Both versions that we have on boots.

So some more Prince + NPG tracks are most welcome but I'm truly looking forward
to seeing what might be in the vault, starting this period of tighter control of leaks,
that we know nothing about.

Both versions? I have only heard one version eek

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Reply #153 posted 07/21/22 12:05pm

nosajd

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BIGJAYRAFFAS said:



That is a lot of jewelry options, none of which I would buy though.
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Reply #154 posted 07/21/22 12:07pm

LILpoundCAKE

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BIGJAYRAFFAS said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

I am most interested in what prince recorded on his own, without the NPG members.
Stuff like Thunder etc. It will be very interesting to hear what he was working on by
himself and what direction such an album might have taken.

Hoping there are many more tracks than what is known now (on princevault).

It's not that I don't like the NPG on tracks. For example Something Funky (THC) is a
track that is -maybe surprisingly- one of my most played tracks of last year lol

I just love it. Both versions that we have on boots.

So some more Prince + NPG tracks are most welcome but I'm truly looking forward
to seeing what might be in the vault, starting this period of tighter control of leaks,
that we know nothing about.

Both versions? I have only heard one version eek


They are quite similar. On first glance they seem the same but when you pay attention
there are a few differences. I think on the first version it's mainly Elisa singing where
on the second version those bits are done by Rosie?

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Reply #155 posted 07/21/22 12:15pm

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there should be an even earlier version though since princevault mentions that the song was updated in fall of 1990 to include tommy barbarella in the shout outs.

both (very similar) versions that we have now contain the "the t the o the m the m the y..." bit so
what we don't have is that initial version that was recorded before tommy joined the npg.

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Reply #156 posted 07/21/22 2:04pm

dodger07

LILpoundCAKE said:

there should be an even earlier version though since princevault mentions that the song was updated in fall of 1990 to include tommy barbarella in the shout outs.

both (very similar) versions that we have now contain the "the t the o the m the m the y..." bit so
what we don't have is that initial version that was recorded before tommy joined the npg.





The Rio rehearsal version is funny when P belly laughs and says ‘he (Tony) said pick it up G’ and when Rosie sings her bit P screams ‘Rosie’ in the background
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Interesting P re-used Tony’s ‘NPG in mass attack’ at the beginning of The Sacrifice Of Victor
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Reply #157 posted 07/21/22 8:41pm

LoveGalore

Gotta admit, Something Funky blah blah is one of my least favorite Prince songs ever. He's barely on the song and I'm not that interested in his attempts at making house music. Like his attempts at other genres that he either inspired or was inspired by, he often was a bit too self aware for it to be genuine. That's where corny songs like this come from. I'm glad he left it off.

I would've hoped that Schoolyard would've been an album that looked like the solo efforts he was working on at the time like Player, Get Blue, I Wonder, Insatiable, Thieves in the Temple, Thunder, etc.
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Reply #158 posted 07/22/22 2:39am

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Joyful Sound.

Isn't that just the intro to willing and able?
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Reply #159 posted 07/22/22 4:57am

RODSERLING

What I don't get with that Netflix deal, is that I highly doubt they offered the estate millions to do a series of 6 or 8 episodes,
If they did that, why wouldn't they chose Michael Jackson instead? More potential viewers.

In fact, logically, that would be instead the Prince estate that should pay all the cost for the documentary, then introducing it to Netflix or another tv channel, amd then let's see the value of the final product.

But let's admit that, that Netflix offered them millions without one minute shot, and the fact they forbidden them to use video until the actual release of the show (2024?) that wasn't even officially announced, with no director, no hints in the wings, no communication at all.

Why would that contract prevent the estate to release audio material ( ie Originals 2, Camille, A For You SDE, or Prince last studio recordings, etc?)

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

I think what prevent the estate to release something has nothing to do with the Netflix deal, if it really exists.
I think there's just legal troubles between WB who owns the Vault until 1995, Sony who has distribution rights, amd the estate whom nothing is syre about who's still in charge.
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Reply #160 posted 07/22/22 6:25am

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RODSERLING said:

What I don't get with that Netflix deal, is that I highly doubt they offered the estate millions to do a series of 6 or 8 episodes, If they did that, why wouldn't they chose Michael Jackson instead? More potential viewers. In fact, logically, that would be instead the Prince estate that should pay all the cost for the documentary, then introducing it to Netflix or another tv channel, amd then let's see the value of the final product. But let's admit that, that Netflix offered them millions without one minute shot, and the fact they forbidden them to use video until the actual release of the show (2024?) that wasn't even officially announced, with no director, no hints in the wings, no communication at all. Why would that contract prevent the estate to release audio material ( ie Originals 2, Camille, A For You SDE, or Prince last studio recordings, etc?) That makes absolutely no sense at all. I think what prevent the estate to release something has nothing to do with the Netflix deal, if it really exists. I think there's just legal troubles between WB who owns the Vault until 1995, Sony who has distribution rights, amd the estate whom nothing is syre about who's still in charge.

Netflix is a little data in the Game but main essatial troubles are in what u said in my opinion too !

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Reply #161 posted 07/22/22 3:22pm

BSonmor

love2thenines2003 said:

RODSERLING said:

What I don't get with that Netflix deal, is that I highly doubt they offered the estate millions to do a series of 6 or 8 episodes, If they did that, why wouldn't they chose Michael Jackson instead? More potential viewers. In fact, logically, that would be instead the Prince estate that should pay all the cost for the documentary, then introducing it to Netflix or another tv channel, amd then let's see the value of the final product. But let's admit that, that Netflix offered them millions without one minute shot, and the fact they forbidden them to use video until the actual release of the show (2024?) that wasn't even officially announced, with no director, no hints in the wings, no communication at all. Why would that contract prevent the estate to release audio material ( ie Originals 2, Camille, A For You SDE, or Prince last studio recordings, etc?) That makes absolutely no sense at all. I think what prevent the estate to release something has nothing to do with the Netflix deal, if it really exists. I think there's just legal troubles between WB who owns the Vault until 1995, Sony who has distribution rights, amd the estate whom nothing is syre about who's still in charge.

Netflix is a little data in the Game but main essatial troubles are in what u said in my opinion too !

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[Edited 7/22/22 6:27am]

Labels work together all the time, I doubt if label squabbles will hold anything up. They want the music out (and more importantly, your $$$). Diamonds and Pearls SDE WILL be released before the year is over, and it's gonna be GREAT!

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Reply #162 posted 07/22/22 3:57pm

RODSERLING

BSonmor said:



love2thenines2003 said:




RODSERLING said:


What I don't get with that Netflix deal, is that I highly doubt they offered the estate millions to do a series of 6 or 8 episodes, If they did that, why wouldn't they chose Michael Jackson instead? More potential viewers. In fact, logically, that would be instead the Prince estate that should pay all the cost for the documentary, then introducing it to Netflix or another tv channel, amd then let's see the value of the final product. But let's admit that, that Netflix offered them millions without one minute shot, and the fact they forbidden them to use video until the actual release of the show (2024?) that wasn't even officially announced, with no director, no hints in the wings, no communication at all. Why would that contract prevent the estate to release audio material ( ie Originals 2, Camille, A For You SDE, or Prince last studio recordings, etc?) That makes absolutely no sense at all. I think what prevent the estate to release something has nothing to do with the Netflix deal, if it really exists. I think there's just legal troubles between WB who owns the Vault until 1995, Sony who has distribution rights, amd the estate whom nothing is syre about who's still in charge.



Netflix is a little data in the Game but main essatial troubles are in what u said in my opinion too !


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[Edited 7/22/22 6:27am]



Labels work together all the time, I doubt if label squabbles will hold anything up. They want the music out (and more importantly, your $$$). Diamonds and Pearls SDE WILL be released before the year is over, and it's gonna be GREAT!



Ok.
So why did they wait almost two years before releasing it?
If there's no problem between the estate, WB, Sony... Fine.

So why were they obliged to re-re-release Syracuse instead of D&P SDE?
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Reply #163 posted 07/22/22 5:02pm

BSonmor

RODSERLING said:

BSonmor said:

Labels work together all the time, I doubt if label squabbles will hold anything up. They want the music out (and more importantly, your $$$). Diamonds and Pearls SDE WILL be released before the year is over, and it's gonna be GREAT!

Ok. So why did they wait almost two years before releasing it? If there's no problem between the estate, WB, Sony... Fine. So why were they obliged to re-re-release Syracuse instead of D&P SDE?

D&P SDE is a lot more complicated release than Syracuse. As I've explained before, there's A LOT of vinyl involved in these releases, a lot of vault product being sifted through and cleaned up for release. Packaging and package design (books, outer cardboard sleeve, possibly a hologram). It takes an army to put this stuff together, with a lot of production being done overseas (vinyl pressing, book printing). Because of the pandemic things have backlogged, containers are slow getting here, you name it. Just saying, it makes more sense that there are production delays than a squabble between WB and Sony over release rights. Especially since Sony printed and pressed the D&P/NC2U single given out at PP (vault material). It's also peculiar that there hasn't been a single disc re-issue of Diamonds and Pearls or the "Love Symbol" album. D&P was his second best selling album of his career.

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Reply #164 posted 07/23/22 6:20am

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Don’t think anything Prince twitter puts out should be taken as a sign for something coming out. Last 4 tweets cover: 20Ten, D&P, NC2U (Prince 1984 ‘version’ released in 2018), Call My Name/ Musicology.
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Reply #165 posted 07/23/22 8:01am

BSonmor

FrankieCoco1 said:

https://mobile.twitter.co...gr%5Etweet Don’t think anything Prince twitter puts out should be taken as a sign for something coming out. Last 4 tweets cover: 20Ten, D&P, NC2U (Prince 1984 ‘version’ released in 2018), Call My Name/ Musicology.

Agreed.

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Reply #166 posted 07/23/22 9:50am

Landonfunkmonk
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If it is coming. My money is on Gett Off Damn near 10 minutes as the the lead song.
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Reply #167 posted 07/23/22 9:51am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

If it is coming. My money is on Gett Off Damn near 10 minutes as the the lead song.

why not the orginal song?

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Reply #168 posted 07/23/22 12:38pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

If it is coming. My money is on Gett Off Damn near 10 minutes as the the lead song.

why not the orginal song?


You mean the album version? It stems from "Glam Slam 91" in a way (everybody grab a body), but then morphs beyond that. "Love Machine" is there, too. I wonder where any of these songs should land.

But the 10 minute mix could be a good lead single. I do hope they add the ballet version of "Thunder" to the set. Seems criminal to not include that, as well as all the other early, hybrid and remix versions.

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Reply #169 posted 07/23/22 8:47pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

why not the orginal song?


You mean the album version? It stems from "Glam Slam 91" in a way (everybody grab a body), but then morphs beyond that. "Love Machine" is there, too. I wonder where any of these songs should land.

But the 10 minute mix could be a good lead single. I do hope they add the ballet version of "Thunder" to the set. Seems criminal to not include that, as well as all the other early, hybrid and remix versions.

Yes "Glam Slam 91" it shares about 1/3 of the lyrics with GETT OFF. (also some elemets from "Escape" and the opening line is close to "Rebirth of the Flesh"

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Reply #170 posted 07/23/22 10:32pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Yes "Glam Slam 91" it shares about 1/3 of the lyrics with GETT OFF. (also some elemets from "Escape" and the opening line is close to "Rebirth of the Flesh"


Yeah, it's a serious mash-up, but the rub is that some of those songs didn't exist yet. It was a real precursor to him taking his songs, dissecting them and making new songs from those elements (like "New Power Generation," "Gett Off," "Cream").

However, in the scheme of promoting something like D&P SDE, it doesn't seem like a good idea, actually, as a lead single. The general public doesn't know "Gett Off" enough to connect the dots. And they sure as fuck don't know shit about "Glam Slam" - in music, club or whatever.

I would imagine it's more going to be a demo or early version of something like "Cream" or "Diamonds and Pearls."

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Reply #171 posted 07/26/22 7:45am

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At the end of this week it will be one year since the last vault release.

With nothing looking like being released until the end of the first quarter of next year, so at the earliest April 2023 this could be longest drought we have ever had to endure. This comes at a time when really we should be getting more releases than ever before.

At this rate 1 release ever two years most of us are going to miss out on the majority of the vault treasures.
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Reply #172 posted 07/26/22 7:56am

LoveGalore

Landonfunkmonkey said:

At the end of this week it will be one year since the last vault release.

With nothing looking like being released until the end of the first quarter of next year, so at the earliest April 2023 this could be longest drought we have ever had to endure. This comes at a time when really we should be getting more releases than ever before.

At this rate 1 release ever two years most of us are going to miss out on the majority of the vault treasures.
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We've had to "endure" droughts longer than a year before.
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Reply #173 posted 07/26/22 8:00am

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hey everyone i think i've found a clue that confirms the sde... if you take the letters i have highlighted in red from the prince twitter account's latest tweet, you can spell "diamonds and pearls" and i don't think this was accidental, just a little way to tease the next release... hopefully an announcement soon!


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Reply #174 posted 07/27/22 5:06pm

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Defiantly Interesting As Many On Numerous Dedicated Sites and Plenty Entertainers Are Releasing Lenghthy Song Sets Under Pressure Ending Redundant Decisions Love Unique eXcellent Events Of Credible Talent To Entertain.

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Reply #175 posted 07/27/22 6:22pm

LoveGalore

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Joyful Sound.

Isn't that just the intro to willing and able?


Yes but I reckon it's probable/possible there are longer/alt takes.
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Reply #176 posted 07/28/22 5:44am

BIGJAYRAFFAS

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Joyful Sound. Isn't that just the intro to willing and able?

From Princevault....

Joyful Sound is an unreleased track recorded in late 1990 at either Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota or Larrabee Sound Studios in North Hollywood, California. The track is made up of Tony M. delivering a spoken word segment over a drum instrumental by Michael B. that was previously used as an intro of Willing And Able. The musical backdrop of the track also contains some menacing sound effects. The track was included as the fourth track on a Spring 1991 configuration of Diamonds And Pearls, but was removed as the album went through further changes.

Sounds more like a stand alone track that has a "Sample" from Willing & Able to me

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Reply #177 posted 07/28/22 12:14pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

At the end of this week it will be one year since the last vault release.

With nothing looking like being released until the end of the first quarter of next year, so at the earliest April 2023 this could be longest drought we have ever had to endure. This comes at a time when really we should be getting more releases than ever before.

At this rate 1 release ever two years most of us are going to miss out on the majority of the vault treasures.
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[Edited 7/26/22 7:47am]


And W2A was announced in February of 2021 IIRC
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Reply #178 posted 07/28/22 12:38pm

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RODSERLING said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:
At the end of this week it will be one year since the last vault release. With nothing looking like being released until the end of the first quarter of next year, so at the earliest April 2023 this could be longest drought we have ever had to endure. This comes at a time when really we should be getting more releases than ever before. At this rate 1 release ever two years most of us are going to miss out on the majority of the vault treasures. [Edited 7/26/22 7:46am] [Edited 7/26/22 7:47am]
And W2A was announced in February of 2021 IIRC


It was announced April 8, 2021.

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