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Reply #60 posted 07/30/22 1:44pm

laytonian

lustmealways said:

"Once we get the music, they're going to get the real good sound that they should have had 6 years ago."

What does this mean


Sharon never makes sense.

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Reply #61 posted 07/30/22 8:52pm

rap

WORST. NEWS. EVER.

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Reply #62 posted 07/30/22 10:36pm

Mumio

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laytonian said:

Mumio said:

Agreed. There's a lot of people out there who seem to think that the elders keeping their share rather than selling out is a good thing. lol lol I'm doubtful.


I was actually shocked that Mattie's kids were the ones to sell out (OAT Holdings) rather than the elderly folks (John's children with Vivian). So strange.

I wasn't because they knew they were not capable of handling all of this. I also wonder if Prince had further instructions he wanted carried out that we don't know about.

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Reply #63 posted 07/30/22 10:37pm

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laytonian said:

lustmealways said:

"Once we get the music, they're going to get the real good sound that they should have had 6 years ago."

What does this mean


Sharon never makes sense.

I agree with you. She likes to heavily coat things in scripture/religion.

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Reply #64 posted 07/31/22 2:14am

love2thenines2
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In any case, before the Vault is repatriated, the plans thought out (or not), the knives sharpened between the two parties and the decisions made .... it will be a long time before a possible release and if there is a release ..... I'm not sure that the desirata of the fans are the first priority. Knowing that the competent people are going to be put aside, Howe/Carter/Grundman .... ego battles between the lawyers who want power and who can't stand one or the other, but also the savings to be made in order to make everyone's part profitable (the repatriation of the Vault to Chanhassen is a first step, and this is without the renewal of the digitisation of the entire work and the efforts allocated to the work in order to secure the Vault as much as possible in PP). ...in short, the picture takes the form of what we fear...but in the end we are nothing but potential consumers, look at MJ's Estate, even if MJ's Vault is not comparable with Prince's, the fact remains that his management has been a shit for almost 12 years ..... even the golden bar shit and Prince's Estate could take a similar direction !

[Edited 7/31/22 2:14am]

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Reply #65 posted 07/31/22 4:53am

fredmagnus

Those who've been complaining about the Estate releases will now have good reasons to do so lol
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Reply #66 posted 07/31/22 5:54am

love2thenines2
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fredmagnus said:

Those who've been complaining about the Estate releases will now have good reasons to do so lol

right !!

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Reply #67 posted 07/31/22 8:07am

LILpoundCAKE

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Reply #68 posted 07/31/22 8:15am

LILpoundCAKE

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[Edited 7/31/22 8:18am]

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Reply #69 posted 07/31/22 8:19am

LILpoundCAKE

whatever. someone/something just fed a handfull of small change into the coinpusher machine that is the bootleg tape network.


smile cool

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Reply #70 posted 07/31/22 3:52pm

rap

Do we know for sure that Howe and Carter have been let go?

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Reply #71 posted 07/31/22 8:44pm

GoldenDreds

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I am gonna win the next Billion dollar Lottery and buy PP and all it's treasurers. Don't worry tho you can still come visit for a price ,Cuz STYLE IS OWNING THE COURT AND CHARGING YOU ALL A FEE lol

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Reply #72 posted 08/01/22 12:30pm

laytonian

All I know is this: Primary Wave (Prince OAT Holdings LLC) had better make sure that his recordings stay safe at Iron Mountain rather than being brought back to that insecure, humidity-filled basement room at Paisley.

[Edited 8/2/22 14:06pm]

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Reply #73 posted 08/01/22 2:58pm

rap

laytonian said:

All I know is this: Primary Wave (Prince OAT Holdings LLC) had better make sure that his recordings stay safe at Iron Mountain rather than being brought back to that insecure, huidity-filled basement room at Paisley.

I wholeheartedly agree.

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Reply #74 posted 08/01/22 2:58pm

love2thenines2
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Excellent article on what's going on with the new estate from our french friends Schkopi site (in french)

On Friday 29 July 2022, after six years of provisional and complex management, a new court decision was made to close the Prince estate in favour of the designated heirs. This conclusion, if it marks the end of the judicial tribulations, opens a new chapter, permanent this time, on what will be from now on The Prince Estate. The time has come to take stock, but also to look ahead, to share hopes and fears.

More: https://www.schkopi.com/i...-of-shock/
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Reply #75 posted 08/02/22 9:37am

RODSERLING

Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅
Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us?
Can't even remember their name.

People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?
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Reply #76 posted 08/02/22 12:45pm

BIGJAYRAFFAS

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Where are the trolls that kept on saying during the last 18 months, that D&P SDE was going to happen? 😅 Seriously where are they? Could they share their thoughts with us? Can't even remember their name. People who were sharing BS from the start, and that were such insulting?

I'm here and still waiting, I still have faith of an announcement soon

NEVER shared any BS and was never insulting

I heard of a possible announcement in July, which may of been delayed due to the imminent estate settlement.

It is however the onlythe beginning of August so let's hope this is the first announcement since the estate battle is now over.

If it does not happen, well then we ALL lose if it does happen then hurrah!

The Orger formally known as JAYJOE
"He might have better luck if he was drumming with his dick"
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Reply #77 posted 08/02/22 12:53pm

FrankieCoco1

Schkopi first “reported” about the D&P SDE (see below about the 2021 three phases of release). So I don’t know if they know more than the average Joe or what, but then who does nowadays. Would be better if we were all pleasant to each other, though, even if we get things wrong, or widely wish/expect for something. Let’s hope for a mammoth release of new unheard stuff in the next year or a big dump of leaks in the meantime.

https://www.schkopi.com/i...e-en-2021/
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #78 posted 08/02/22 1:45pm

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The Diamonds and Pearls/Love Symbol hybrid release sounds very appealing.

However the albums alone are 4 records.

If there were say another 4 of edits,mixes etc, then maybe 3 records of outtakes and two concerts over 6 records.

It would have been one massive release.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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Reply #79 posted 08/02/22 1:56pm

Purpleminister
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Forgive me if this is a stupid question but if the Estate is worth 156 million, how come the heirs and Primary Wave have to split only 6 million? Is the rest just legal costs?
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Reply #80 posted 08/02/22 2:07pm

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Purpleminister1980 said:

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but if the Estate is worth 156 million, how come the heirs and Primary Wave have to split only 6 million? Is the rest just legal costs?


They said the remaining amount after taxes and lawyers was around 104 million. From my understanding, the 4 million they are splitting is cash on hand. They aren't going to pay them out for the other 100 million, since those are assets they would have to sell in order to get the cash.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #81 posted 08/02/22 2:10pm

laytonian

Purpleminister1980 said:

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but if the Estate is worth 156 million, how come the heirs and Primary Wave have to split only 6 million? Is the rest just legal costs?


The $6 million is CASH.
A large tax bill was paid out of the $156 million. Besides the cash, the total value consists of real estate, publishing, Paisley Park, his personal belongings, etc. Those assets will be profitable for the heirs/PW.

Remember, when Prince died, he had approximately $15 million in cash out of all the millinos of his net worth. It's been necessary to use some of that cash to maintain Paisley and pay estate expenses.

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Reply #82 posted 08/02/22 3:38pm

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Landonfunkmonkey said:

The Diamonds and Pearls/Love Symbol hybrid release sounds very appealing. However the albums alone are 4 records. If there were say another 4 of edits,mixes etc, then maybe 3 records of outtakes and two concerts over 6 records. It would have been one massive release.

Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry

“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”


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Reply #83 posted 08/02/22 5:19pm

strongoxman1

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Reply #84 posted 08/02/22 5:22pm

strongoxman1

love2thenines2003 said:



Landonfunkmonkey said:


The Diamonds and Pearls/Love Symbol hybrid release sounds very appealing. However the albums alone are 4 records. If there were say another 4 of edits,mixes etc, then maybe 3 records of outtakes and two concerts over 6 records. It would have been one massive release.



Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry



“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”







Well only to a certain extent -- WB already missed-out on the window for releasing Diamonds & Pearls SDE themselves last year, but they still have rights to the soundtrack albums, so Parade should still be ready to go. I'm also confident that nothing nullified Jack White's authorization to proceed with Camille.

Primary Wave is also thisclose to controlling a majority share, and we don't yet know how the remaining entities will choose to cooperate (or not) until more information is reported.
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Reply #85 posted 08/02/22 6:19pm

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don't know if you guys were privy but reports of a diamonds and pearls sde was being shared in select circles back in october 2020, along with the correct reports of w2a.

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Reply #86 posted 08/03/22 1:42am

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lustmealways said:

don't know if you guys were privy but reports of a diamonds and pearls sde was being shared in select circles back in october 2020, along with the correct reports of w2a.



Exact and same for the SOTT project months ago before the release, but sometimes things and plan can change, this is the case with D&P SPD project!
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Reply #87 posted 08/03/22 8:44am

laytonian

love2thenines2003 said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

The Diamonds and Pearls/Love Symbol hybrid release sounds very appealing. However the albums alone are 4 records. If there were say another 4 of edits,mixes etc, then maybe 3 records of outtakes and two concerts over 6 records. It would have been one massive release.

Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry

“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”



....and he's not an official source, either.

Certainly, this doesn't mean that Netflix documentary will be shelved. The estate got big money for it.

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Reply #88 posted 08/03/22 8:46am

laytonian

strongoxman1 said:

love2thenines2003 said:

Reported these past hours by Doc Funkenburry

“Whatever was planned under the old regime, don’t expect it now.”


Well only to a certain extent -- WB already missed-out on the window for releasing Diamonds & Pearls SDE themselves last year, but they still have rights to the soundtrack albums, so Parade should still be ready to go. I'm also confident that nothing nullified Jack White's authorization to proceed with Camille. Primary Wave is also thisclose to controlling a majority share, and we don't yet know how the remaining entities will choose to cooperate (or not) until more information is reported.


PW owns exactly 50%, yes. But the Prince Legacy LLC group is what forced OAT to sell out, because they would not budge. I doubt anyone in the Prince Legacy Group will sell even a bit now. They're too busy trying to screw everything up, move the music and ruin it all.
I knew this would happen as soon as the heirs got some power.

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Reply #89 posted 08/03/22 9:42am

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For English speakers, here is a link to the recent

article on the #Prince estate with Google translate applied...

https://www-schkopi-com.t..._tr_pto=sc

PS>>Thanx 2 Vaultcurator for this !!!

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