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Thread started 12/15/21 1:50pm

funkman88

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WHY cover versions Of Prince songs become bigger hits than his version?

I feel for u chaka hit meanwhile prince version hardly noticed

when u were mine cyndi lauper same thing

nothing compares 2 u sinead basically paid 2 keep the lights on at Paisley Ppark

Tevin Cambell shhh smokes Princes version

The Time my summer time thang smokes the latest fashion.

Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version

Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

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Reply #1 posted 12/15/21 2:08pm

trickyjoe7777

Oh lawd

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/21 2:19pm

TheEnglishGent

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Clearly Prince is shit, I might have to throw away my collection.

RIP sad
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Reply #3 posted 12/15/21 2:23pm

funkman88

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TheEnglishGent said:

Clearly Prince is shit, I might have to throw away my collection.

not saying that but lets be real the covers are better aand made an emotional connection 2 the listeners

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Reply #4 posted 12/15/21 2:46pm

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Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version?

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Reply #5 posted 12/15/21 3:03pm

steakfinger

I Feel For U was a hit for Chaka cuz it sounded like a hit when it was released. Prince's version sounded like the Bossom Buddies theme song which was a bad thing even when his was released. Was that even a single? I'm not sure how a non-single in 1979 is expected to have been a hit for anyone.

Nothing Compare To You was a hit for Shinehead because it had some genuine emotion behind it whereas the Family version was supreme schmaltz in terms of vocal delivery. Sinead sounded like she meant it and St. Paul and Susannah approached it (at Prince's direction, I'm sure), like a cheesy showtune ballad. It's just awful.

Darling Nikki was not a single for Prince and the present day popularity of the Foo Fighters make their version seem popular by comparison, but was it hit for the Foo Fighters? Of course not. The Foo Fighters do a fine enough version, but I've never heard of Prince's version being considered anything but amazing and definitive.

There are plenty of Prince covers that suck anus and Prince has more than plenty of his own hits. I haven't heard a single version of When Doves Cry that comes close to his, though there have been plenty. Ginuwine's abonination comes to mind here.

A very few cover versions of Prince's songs (maybe two?), became bigger hits than his. Nothing Compares to You wasn't a single for the Family and Prince never released his version of that while he was alive. Again, you can't call non-singles failed hits. If Prince didn't release it as a single then it can't be expected to be a hit or it would have been an single.

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Reply #6 posted 12/15/21 4:12pm

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The poster is a troll and doesn't genuinely care about your responses or in having any kind of productive discussion. A brief scroll through their record of posts here will convey everything you need to know.


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Reply #7 posted 12/15/21 4:17pm

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funkman88 said:

1: I feel for u chaka hit meanwhile prince version hardly noticed

2: when u were mine cyndi lauper same thing

3: nothing compares 2 u sinead basically paid 2 keep the lights on at Paisley Ppark

4: Tevin Cambell shhh smokes Princes version

5: The Time my summer time thang smokes the latest fashion.

6: Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version

7: Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

1: I Feel For U featured on Prince’s 2nd album, which personally I consider to be juvenilia. It’s a great track and illustrates Prince’s potential, but Prince had yet to truly hit his stride in the studio and wasn't a major artist yet. Chaka’s version is great (if slightly over-produced). A track featuring Chaka, Stevie Wonder, David Frank and Melle Mel was bound to be great.

2: Prince's version is superior in every respect.

3: I agree that Sinead's version is the best, one of those magical moments. Prince's released version was a side-project, and Prince's own studio version isn't hugely inferior.

4: No, it doesn't.

5: I don't really like either, but I prefer The Latest Fashion

6: No, it doesn't. Massive lol lol... I don't think that I could ever take you seriously again.

7: I'm not sure that you've proven the predicate of your argument. wink

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Reply #8 posted 12/15/21 4:42pm

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The Family's version of NC2U is pure 80s perfection, particularly the rasping sax solo. Sinead's version is sublime early 90s beatz. Similar to the difference between the two I Feel 4 U. Decadal differences. All the rest - minor songs. However, Prince himself never did a good version of NC2U. He was always chasing Sinead.
I think the choir wanna sing
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Reply #9 posted 12/15/21 6:26pm

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OperatingThetan said:

The poster is a troll and doesn't genuinely care about your responses or in having any kind of productive discussion. A brief scroll through their record of posts here will convey everything you need to know. * [Edited 12/15/21 16:13pm]

Pretty tragic if that's indeed the case - "there's nowt so queer as folk". biggrin We shouldn't throw around the term "trolll" too eagerly though, some people just think differently.


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Reply #10 posted 12/15/21 9:10pm

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OperatingThetan said:

The poster is a troll and doesn't genuinely care about your responses or in having any kind of productive discussion. A brief scroll through their record of posts here will convey everything you need to know. * [Edited 12/15/21 16:13pm]

im not a troll just because my opinims and views aRE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS ...VERY ARROGANT OF U

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Reply #11 posted 12/15/21 10:13pm

RODSERLING

Because they weren't released as singles, to begin with?
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/21 2:08am

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funkman88 said:

I feel for u chaka hit meanwhile prince version hardly noticed

when u were mine cyndi lauper same thing

nothing compares 2 u sinead basically paid 2 keep the lights on at Paisley Ppark

Tevin Cambell shhh smokes Princes version

The Time my summer time thang smokes the latest fashion.

Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version

Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

Why are you always so annoying? And your "questions" so malicius? Have you ever grown up?

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Reply #13 posted 12/16/21 3:01am

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Prince has an image problem as he comes across the way he does and not everyone gets it. To these lower wink people this makes the covers accessible.
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Reply #14 posted 12/16/21 4:08am

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funkman88 said:



OperatingThetan said:


The poster is a troll and doesn't genuinely care about your responses or in having any kind of productive discussion. A brief scroll through their record of posts here will convey everything you need to know. * [Edited 12/15/21 16:13pm]

im not a troll just because my opinims and views aRE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS ...VERY ARROGANT OF U



Your record of posts proves otherwise. Anyone observing your repeated behaviour and style here - as well as your almost total disinterest in the responses to the agitating discussions you start - will be able to discern that.

It's not arrogance, it's called having an ounce of intelligence.
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Reply #15 posted 12/16/21 4:43am

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/21 7:41am

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OperatingThetan said:

funkman88 said:

im not a troll just because my opinims and views aRE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS ...VERY ARROGANT OF U

Your record of posts proves otherwise. Anyone observing your repeated behaviour and style here - as well as your almost total disinterest in the responses to the agitating discussions you start - will be able to discern that. It's not arrogance, it's called having an ounce of intelligence.

That's it, yeah. Well put!

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Reply #17 posted 12/16/21 9:37am

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funkman88 said:

Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

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Let's call it 'different' insted of 'better' as beauty is in they eye of the beholder.

And when one kicks in an open door, why not do it in silence, when no one can notice it?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #18 posted 12/17/21 7:38am

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Troll post from frequent troller is trolltastic. Gtfo
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Reply #19 posted 12/17/21 11:24am

funkman88

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DarkKnight1 said:

Troll post from frequent troller is trolltastic. Gtfo

nothin trolling about my post just different views and u cant accept that

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Reply #20 posted 12/17/21 11:37am

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funkman88 said:



DarkKnight1 said:


Troll post from frequent troller is trolltastic. Gtfo

nothin trolling about my post just different views and u cant accept that

Your views are stupid and we've accepted that. What more do you want?
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Reply #21 posted 12/17/21 11:50am

udo

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funkman88 said:

DarkKnight1 said:

Troll post from frequent troller is trolltastic. Gtfo

nothin trolling about my post just different views and u cant accept that

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`View`?

No discussion? Arguments exchanged?

You simply ask for arguments to support for your 'view'.

When the argumwnts go the other way....

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #22 posted 12/17/21 1:03pm

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I Feel For You - Chaka's version is way better than Prince's. She tapped into that "1984" perfect blend of pop/R&B/etc. There was a mashup MP3 in the Musicology Reflection Room that I managed to get, where Prince mixed his version and her version. It's pretty cool actually. I don't think in 1984 that Prince really cared about this song getting traction for Chaka . . . as he had a tiny little bit of his own attention in 1984 . . .

Nothing Compares 2 U . . . nobody knew who "The Family" was, and their version is not all that great TBH. Sinead's version is still the version, period. This song, I think it always bothered Prince that it was a huge hit for someone else.

Tevin's SHHHH came out before Prince's version, so essentially Prince covered someone else performing his song? Prince's is better in this case, as Tevin's was a bit cringe-worthy due to his age, and Prince really tears this one up anyway.

The Latest Fashion/My Summertime Thang . . . I like both, because I'm a superfan, but neither one has "HIT" written all over it. Tie.

Aside from the first 2, this is a pretty shallow list of comparisons. The average person doesn't know SHHH or The Latest Fashion/My Summertime Thang.


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Reply #23 posted 12/18/21 4:02am

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Simple
Mamy of covers were hits because originals were not released qs singles How Come U Don't call. For example
sinead version simplified (stupified) harmony of the original
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Reply #24 posted 12/18/21 7:56am

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Asinine.

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Chaka Khan was already a big star, Prince was still up and coming.

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Cyndi Lauper?

last single from a hit album, did not chart. how was this a hit?

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Sinead?

not sure how you can count this considering Prince did not release his own version of this song at the time. When he finally did it was more a historical release of an already hit and had small chance of being a hit.

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Ive never heard tevins version of Shh..... shows how big a hit it was. heard it for the first time just now, basic slick pop production of the time, Princes has way more soul in it.

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the times song is great, but i fail to seehow it smokes the latest fashion. equally cool tunes.

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Foo Fighters? yea its a great version of it, but smokes Princces? how exactly is that? it not so different that they upped in any real way.

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i you feel the need to troll or stir up crap, do better please.

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Reply #25 posted 12/18/21 11:12am

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Prince's version of Shhh is like epic song with great arrangement great singing and killer guitar
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Reply #26 posted 12/18/21 11:28am

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funkman88 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Clearly Prince is shit, I might have to throw away my collection.

not saying that but lets be real the covers are better aand made an emotional connection 2 the listeners

Opinions, arseholes, we all have them.

RIP sad
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Reply #27 posted 12/18/21 11:32am

IanRG

If you can answer why any song becomes a hit or a version of a song becomes a hit then you have the goose that laid the golden egg.

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It is mix of so many factors where often the biggest one is te artist was lucky that the song was the right song at the right time.

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Some cover songs of Prince's songs have been bigger hits and many have not. As with all covers, perhaps it is in the reimaging or reworking of the song that makes it better. Often this reworking involved Prince - quite a number of Prince's songs are reworked from a previous verson or contain reworked parts.

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Reply #28 posted 12/20/21 8:51am

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funkman88 said:

I feel for u chaka hit meanwhile prince version hardly noticed

It was not a single

when u were mine cyndi lauper same thing

She was big at the time

nothing compares 2 u sinead basically paid 2 keep the lights on at Paisley Ppark

fuse

Tevin Cambell shhh smokes Princes version

Lies

The Time my summer time thang smokes the latest fashion.

Doesnt even make sense as they are both written by Prince

Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version

lol lol jokes

Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

Suprised you never even mentioned Alicia Keys version of How Come U Dont Call Me Anymore which charted..of which Prince's original still slaps and doesnt even matter

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Reply #29 posted 12/20/21 4:42pm

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paisleypark4 said:

funkman88 said:

I feel for u chaka hit meanwhile prince version hardly noticed

It was not a single

when u were mine cyndi lauper same thing

She was big at the time

nothing compares 2 u sinead basically paid 2 keep the lights on at Paisley Ppark

fuse

Tevin Cambell shhh smokes Princes version

Lies

The Time my summer time thang smokes the latest fashion.

Doesnt even make sense as they are both written by Prince

Darling Nikki Foo fighters smokes Prince's version

lol lol jokes

Why is this? is it because of better Production & Arranging?

Suprised you never even mentioned Alicia Keys version of How Come U Dont Call Me Anymore which charted..of which Prince's original still slaps and doesnt even matter

because hers is sooooo much better with the hip hop beat it was embarassing for Princey

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