I'm sorry, but dream on tbh. Purely from a busyness point of view, PP won't last very long if it should only be related to Prince's work and life. May I remind you that at some point in the late eighties, it was his intention to rent out PP as a recording and filming facility. Also as another chanel of income (maybe). At least that's what happened. And he did that for a long time too I believe. Correct me if i'm wrong. Honestly, to me, PP won't survive on Prince tourism alone tbh. Maybe for the next couple of years, but still - at some point he & PP will be forgotten. Although i'm no expert in this, I can't see why there would be more (new) Prince fans wanting to come to PP. But maybe that's my (European) point of view on all this... We all are quite older. I don't feel like going especially to Minneapolis to visit PP even as a big Prince fan that i am. Probably i'm not the only Prince fan thinking like this (outside fo the US). But let's hope it still lasts for a very long time, no matter what it will be used for. There is no disrespect towards Prince to make it profitable in a right way. If they could make a cinema out of it, why not. As long as it doesn't become a shopping mall. lol
[Edited 12/11/21 23:19pm] "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Exactly.
It was a very important local (black) community that paved the way for many of us, even Prince I dare to say.
See how far Rupaul took it. It is still alive today.
There should be a monument to all these extraordinary people, who were rarely accepted for who they are.
It also shows, above all, how even very young kids who felt abandoned were able to find each other, gay or not. This is an important documentary, on many levels.
I often heard a lot about it, but it took untill 2002 before i could see it for the first time at some local film festival.
And it made a huge positive impact on me.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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RENAMING IT FROM PAISLEY PARK TO PAISLEY WOKE
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log off and touch grass | |
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Religion has been brought up in other posts in this thread:
This may offend some and I want to be clear that I support social equality in every respect, but to an old radical and cynic like myself chastising the church and other religious institutions for being anti gay-marriage is a bit like criticising the KKK for their non-inclusive membership policy. The whole philosophy and ideology has become rotten at root and should be transcended, not reformed. Once you strip away the paternalistic and socially manipulative dimensions of religious faith very little remains. It's a mechanism of worldly power and nothing more. Prince was just another victim of a toxic historical discourse in my view and where he ended up in his own mind, only he can say.
Yes, he comes across pretty well in that interview and he's still talking about faith/spiritualism in terms inclusiveness and a non-judgemental God. There’s nothing there to suggest that he was a zealot or moralist at all, at that time at least (what was he, 39, 40? That's a fair chunk of life to work these things out). I stopped following Prince closely as the 90s wore on, so I'm unsure to what extent he changed and I completely missed the whole JW thing. I was always puzzled, given how independently minded he was in many other ways, why he clung to faith at all, but it was always more of an interesting curiosity than anything that bothered me as an atheist.
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log off and touch grass Lmfao!!!! | |
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Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking. | |
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Besides just one moderator here who probably has better things to do with his life, the collected intelligence of the moderator pool here is equal to that of a potato. Formerly TheDigitalGardener etc. | |
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TruthBomb, please explain the "difference between right and wrong" regarding "Paris Is Burning". | |
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You sound just like a Trump lover. You don't deserve Prince | |
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That sounds pretty negative and reproachful. is it because the documentary is a positive representation of recognized often ignored minority groups? Or don't you want non directly Prince related stuff being shown at PP ? Bacause this is indirectly related to what Prince somehow represented, celebrated even, during his early career.
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I realize in the future, the appeal of both Paisley Park and Prince fades as his fans die off. They could have more Prince related events and keep it "Prince related only" for probably a decade more if they weren't so slow releasing each unreleased project. People have to be excited enough to attend some sort of event but the longer it takes for each project to be released, the more the excitement fades. Hell, they should be flooding us with material and keeping the excitement constant. I don't know why they are sitting on things and taking so long because we're not getting any younger and when we're dead, the younger generation doesn't give a hill of beans about Prince. In our lifetimes though, they should be "Princing" it up, big time. Once we're gone though, I don't care what they do. . . . [Edited 12/13/21 8:51am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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why would anyone need to fake being a bigoted piece of shit for "evidence", especially on these obscure forums of all places, when bigots are proudly showing their true colors everywhere? some of y'all need help... | |
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Good points but how come Graceland is still open even though Elvis was nowhere near as prolific and everchanging as Prince was? As an old school Prince fan who´s been to Paisley numerous times I don´t feel the need to go there again but I think younger generations of fans would want to see that place, just like some of my friends who are hardcore Elvis fans (because they are into the Rockabilly subculture) travel all the way to Graceland. And with Prince, there´s just so much more to see....vehicles, stage costumes, instruments, etc. But sure, Elvis was far more popular among the masses than Prince was, so there´s that. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Since Elvis's death though, he has had some of the looniest fans in the history of fans. Yeah, there are a few crazy obsessed Prince "fams" that think that every single thing that Prince ever did was great and that he was incapable of making some bullshit but they are basically simply harmless ass kissers and not crazy.....although, I have seen a few borderline cases. Michael Jackson fans are much more crazy but still not as crazy as Elvis fans. Elvis fans have been so crazy that they refused to believe he's really dead and think he faked his death and is living somewhere in secret in order to escape fame and his fans. Remember all the "Elvis sightings" that went on for years? I don't know though, if I had fans that were that crazy, I think I'd fake my death too. . . . [Edited 12/13/21 13:26pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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In all fairness, we had a few conspiracy minded "Prince isn't dead" posters here for a bit, | |
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Just making blanket statements about what you believe or not is off topic. That leads to general discussion of belief or non-belief
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I doubt showing Paris Is Burning is going to keep PP in business
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That's the point I was making in my last reply, I think you're underestimating just how openly unhinged these people are post-2016. And like I said, if someone was gonna go online and fake that kind of behavior to prove a point or something, they'd have a much bigger audience to do so literally anywhere but on Prince.org
Occam's razor makes me think that the loudmouth conservative is just a loudmouth conservative. Nothing deeper than that. | |
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Didn't Prince screen movies he liked at PP like Barbarella, The Matrix and Minority Report or am I getting that confused for when he would rent out movie theaters and take the PP fans there? | |
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