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Reply #150 posted 10/05/21 7:44am

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milesb said:

Emancipation was the first Prince album that disappointed me.

I was expecting utter brilliance after all the hype and his new new found freedom.

I thought he'd save his best for that album.

Don't get me wrong, there are some gems on it. But for me it marked the end of the run for his great albums. I suppose there was a lot going on for him at that tumulteous time. It mustve had a profound effect on him. His albums never found the lofty heights again after that.


Man, I will never understand this. Emancipation is my favourite and actually does demonstrate his creative freedom, just like SOTT does.

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Reply #151 posted 10/05/21 11:13pm

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Cinny said:



milesb said:


Emancipation was the first Prince album that disappointed me.


I was expecting utter brilliance after all the hype and his new new found freedom.


I thought he'd save his best for that album.


Don't get me wrong, there are some gems on it. But for me it marked the end of the run for his great albums. I suppose there was a lot going on for him at that tumulteous time. It mustve had a profound effect on him. His albums never found the lofty heights again after that.




Man, I will never understand this. Emancipation is my favourite and actually does demonstrate his creative freedom, just like SOTT does.



I agree! Although his approach is different for sure - Emancipation is certainly more 'maximalist', whereas SOTT balanced that with more minimalist low key grooves. I love them both but SOTT is certainly darker, and honestly that makes it more dramatic than Emancipation overall, which is what I think appeals to people so much with his 80s work in particular.

I may prefer Emancipation but I do wish he'd figured a way to maintain that sense through the 90s and onward. It seemed he was in the process of getting that back when he passed, which was a crime imo.
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Reply #152 posted 10/06/21 1:59pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?


Yes

Aye, me too. I love good ambient electronic music, but Kamasutra is muzak of the worst kind. I skipped through it once and never touched that CD again.

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Reply #153 posted 10/06/21 2:01pm

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lurker316 said:



I know yours is an unpopular opinion, but I agree.

Granted, when it first came out I aboslutely loved the Gold Experience. Back then I thought it was a return to his '80s form.

But over the years I've gradually grown to dislike it. I don't think it's aged well. The title track itself may be my least favorite. It's such a blatant attempt at making formulaic anthem rock, to the point of being partonizing. And the lyrcis? "All that glitters and gold." How cliche is that?



The lyrics are actually "All that glitters ain't gold.

That's even more cliché! lol

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Reply #154 posted 10/06/21 2:06pm

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Vannormal said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?

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Absolutely.

Big big fan of artists like Nils Frahm, Glass, Reich, Sakamoto, Dupree, Alva Noto, Sylvian, Beuvinck, Max Richter, Gonzalez, Johannsson, Cage, etc...

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WHat Prince concerns; all Madhouse albums are stunning (to me), N.E.W.S. is good and Xpectation is fair atleast to me.

Kamasutra is pretty impossible to listen to, not even understand what he tried with that, as if he completely lost it, IMHO of course.

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I believe I once read it was composed as background music for making love. I personally can't imagine having sex with that album playing in the background: total boner killer, LOL!

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Reply #155 posted 10/06/21 2:08pm

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Cindy said:

Poplife88 said:

Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.


Underrated indeed! I also really like There is Lonely.

I like Old Friends 4 Sale a lot too, I agree it is one of his very best 90's albums.

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Reply #156 posted 10/06/21 2:14pm

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26ten said:

alphastreet said:

I had musicology, I couldn’t get into it aside from the title track and pimp, coma, circumstance


What about Dear Mr Man? That track is absolutely the high point for me, and the first few listens I was similar and didn't even remember the track until recently.

I love me some Dear Mr Man. I like Prince's jazzy funky midtempo grooves.

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Reply #157 posted 10/06/21 2:49pm

26ten

funkaholic1972 said:



Cindy said:




Poplife88 said:


Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.




Underrated indeed! I also really like There is Lonely.



I like Old Friends 4 Sale a lot too, I agree it is one of his very best 90's albums.



Hugely agreed. Imo this album is better than Musicology by a long shot, although even that is great. Agreed on Dr Mr Man as well of course.
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Reply #158 posted 10/06/21 4:22pm

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ChickenMcNuggets said:

Rave. Of the classic ‘80s albums, Parade. Great songs, but I just don’t feel a compulsive need to listen to it a lot, unless I’m listening to the entire albums of that period chronologically.


Same -
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Next time you listen to it try listening a second time back to back.
I tried that last time and after 10 years of recognizing its greatness but never really getting attached to it personally it totally opened up the record to me in a surprising way.

I'd always remembered it as an album of a few peaks and a lot of filler (lots of short and evocative but slight tracks then a catchy song like Anotherlover or Kiss, etc) but on that second listen I heard things that shocked me and colorings I'd never heard on another album, Prince or otherwise. I was so grateful. It's a slippery album is what I'm saying.
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Reply #159 posted 10/07/21 3:38pm

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alphastreet said:

I had musicology, I couldn’t get into it aside from the title track and pimp, coma, circumstance


Same here. The only songs I liked on that album were the title track, Pimp Coma Circumstance, and Reflection.



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Reply #160 posted 10/08/21 2:47pm

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Not all of Emancipation was great or even good but I was just so happy to get so much music in one shot. It was like a buffet where I could just take what I wanted. Everyone has their own One CD mix of it and probably not two are the same so it's hard for me to hate on it.

Even though the consistency suffered as he put more material out, I always preferred to get more stuff released since, a lot of times, I liked stuff everyone else hated and I simply had more to choose from.

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