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Reply #120 posted 09/10/21 6:53pm

eyewishuheaven

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Poplife88 said:

Cindy said:

Lurker, I love that you gave another listen to one of your albums.


Please give another listen to Old Friends 4 Sale. My favourites are (in order) When the Lights Go Down, 5 Women, Extraordinary, Old Friends 4 Sale.


I rate my first 3 song favourites all a 10/10. Thanks for allowing me to chime in.

Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.


Me too. It's just a fun summer album, and the musicianship is top-shelf. They don't all have to be masterpieces.

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Reply #121 posted 09/10/21 11:00pm

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More of an anthology than an "album" proper really, but OF4S was great, yeah.

[Edited 9/10/21 23:00pm]

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Reply #122 posted 09/11/21 4:08pm

hyperpessimist

I think we've all erased from our memory the one that seems to be truly banished by everyone:

1999 The New Master

- fine, not an album per se, but... what a major misfire. Only surpassed in my personal scale of horribleness by Kamasutra...

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Reply #123 posted 09/11/21 8:27pm

Milty2

hyperpessimist said:

I think we've all erased from our memory the one that seems to be truly banished by everyone:

1999 The New Master

- fine, not an album per se, but... what a major misfire. Only surpassed in my personal scale of horribleness by Kamasutra...


Maybe it'll get reissued on vinyl by the Estate lol

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Reply #124 posted 09/11/21 10:49pm

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Milty2 said:

hyperpessimist said:

I think we've all erased from our memory the one that seems to be truly banished by everyone:

1999 The New Master

- fine, not an album per se, but... what a major misfire. Only surpassed in my personal scale of horribleness by Kamasutra...


Maybe it'll get reissued on vinyl by the Estate lol

Maybe Prince erased it! lol

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Reply #125 posted 09/12/21 5:51am

Milty2

kewlschool said:

Milty2 said:


Maybe it'll get reissued on vinyl by the Estate lol

Maybe Prince erased it! lol


Hehe I've actually never heard it.

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Reply #126 posted 09/12/21 10:03am

eyewishuheaven

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Milty2 said:

kewlschool said:

Maybe Prince erased it! lol


Hehe I've actually never heard it.


Me neither. The 'Purple Medley' completely put me off any future reinterpretations of his own work (except live stuff of course.)

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Reply #127 posted 09/13/21 12:57am

hyperpessimist

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Milty2 said:


Hehe I've actually never heard it.


Me neither. The 'Purple Medley' completely put me off any future reinterpretations of his own work (except live stuff of course.)

Oh, Purple Medley is a masterpiece compared to this... 1999TNM was a desperate attempt at charting higher than the inevitable WB re-release of the original single, so Prince just gathered everything he could think of that might help sell... and came up with this frankenstein of a release that flopped spectacularly.

From crediting it to "Prince and the Revolution" to having Rosie Gaines scat aimlessly (she'd just had a garage hit), from the Doug E. Fresh rhymes to Larry Graham replacing Dez on vocals, from awkward samples to "dope beatz"... nothing worked sad

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Reply #128 posted 09/13/21 1:50pm

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Purple Medley is a fucking masterpiece next to New Master!

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Reply #129 posted 09/13/21 7:07pm

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Echoing what folks have said about Dirty Mind and 1999. There are songs on both I still like.

And more recently, ART OFFICIAL and Phase One.

time flies.
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Reply #130 posted 09/13/21 9:46pm

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Milty2 said:

kewlschool said:

Maybe Prince erased it! lol


Hehe I've actually never heard it.

Your ears are better for it. It's horrible. It's the Jughead of music singles (but not that interesting).

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Reply #131 posted 09/16/21 9:37am

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evillol

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Purple Medley is a fucking masterpiece next to New Master!

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Reply #132 posted 09/16/21 5:49pm

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Poplife88 said:

Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.

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- YES! It made me sad because Prince abandoned it to promote Rave Un2 (an album that had some cool songs, but plastic production overall)

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Reply #133 posted 09/17/21 1:50am

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He didn't abandon Old Friends. He never cared much for it to begin with. So it was a pleasant surprise when he started playing songs from it live.
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Reply #134 posted 09/17/21 7:35am

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SantanaMaitreya said:

He didn't abandon Old Friends. He never cared much for it to begin with. So it was a pleasant surprise when he started playing songs from it live.

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True. It was an album he gave to WB as contractual obligation, so he would be a lot more interested in promoting something fresh and free from WB. Ironically, after some time, he played more songs from it than from Rave, you are right.

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Reply #135 posted 09/17/21 10:00am

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His first 2 albums and everything after The Gold Experience (though I at least find Rainbow Children to be interesting).

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Reply #136 posted 09/23/21 4:21am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?

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Absolutely.

Big big fan of artists like Nils Frahm, Glass, Reich, Sakamoto, Dupree, Alva Noto, Sylvian, Beuvinck, Max Richter, Gonzalez, Johannsson, Cage, etc...

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WHat Prince concerns; all Madhouse albums are stunning (to me), N.E.W.S. is good and Xpectation is fair atleast to me.

Kamasutra is pretty impossible to listen to, not even understand what he tried with that, as if he completely lost it, IMHO of course.

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I listen to Glass and Reich but most of those names I don't recognize. I'm guessing they're big on atonality which is hard to make sound vital. What I've heard of Cage I don't like and 4'33" is just boring.

I like the Madhouse stuff but some of it is too repetitive like Xpectation. For me, N.E.W.S. is his best instrumental album. There are too many genius eyebrow raising moments on Kamasutra for me to dismiss it. Probably his most unfairly maligned album.


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Reply #137 posted 09/25/21 5:10pm

26ten

coldcoffeeandcocacola said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Graffiti Bridge

Diamonds & Pearls

the Gold Experience (I'm actually trying to listen to it again, because the era VISUALLY is very interesting)

Newpower Soul

Rave... (I cannot even finish type it out)
AOA

Minneapolis Sound

Of4s gold is to me his finest work! Someone else said this to me and I rejigged the order of tracks, see if you can get into it beginning with endorphin machine and without the segues?


Old Friends For Sale is WAAAAY underrated. I'd been told almost exclusively that it was in his top 5 weakest albums and for the life of me I can't see it. It has She Spoke To Me for f*** sake imo his greatest guitar solo probably.

Still, maybe that just speaks to the overall quality of his work even if some people don't like his more mid tempo jazzy/rnb phase.

I know it's a weird change up between Batman and Graffiti Bridge. That seems to be the moment when the change happened (likely due to the use of live drums on the records). It really altered his sound and that is when it starts to get contentious.

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Reply #138 posted 09/25/21 5:12pm

26ten

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It's funny because I recognize that album as being of immense quality but even I have had issues connecting with it in the past, despite like 10 incredible songs on it.

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Reply #139 posted 09/25/21 5:15pm

26ten

The one that I've had the hardest time with is probably The Rainbow Children, despite some really incredible music on it and 3 of his best songs.

I'm a really huge jazz and RnB fan and the narration takes a lot away from the album imo. I need to listen to it again with a fresh set of ears though.

I always feel like "wow this is really well produced and it *sounds* nice" but the songs don't work for the most part outside Mellow and 1+1+1=3 and the final track.

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Reply #140 posted 09/26/21 8:06am

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People who don't get Kamasutra must have shits for brains!


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

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Reply #141 posted 09/26/21 9:50am

26ten

fortuneandserendipity said:

People who don't get Kamasutra must have shits for brains!




Damn! That a strong feeling right there haha

Never heard it. Purposely let it wait so that when I listen to it my expectations are appropriate. I see almost exclusively hate or dislike for it here though.
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Reply #142 posted 09/26/21 8:14pm

alphastreet

I had musicology, I couldn’t get into it aside from the title track and pimp, coma, circumstance
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Reply #143 posted 09/27/21 9:33am

Milty2

fortuneandserendipity said:

People who don't get Kamasutra must have shits for brains!


Ok tell you what....I only ever had one listen to it and put it away because I could hear the cheesy synth strings he was playing. I know there is a real orchestra on it but the synth atrings annoyed me.

I will give it another go.

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Reply #144 posted 09/27/21 10:08am

26ten

alphastreet said:

I had musicology, I couldn’t get into it aside from the title track and pimp, coma, circumstance


What about Dear Mr Man? That track is absolutely the high point for me, and the first few listens I was similar and didn't even remember the track until recently.

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Reply #145 posted 09/27/21 10:14am

26ten

Never properly binged Musicology-Lotus Flower like I should have.
Interestingly I played 20ten and MPLSound a lot though. Always had a soft spot for 20ten and initially hated MPLSound until a recent reappraisal and was shocked at how solid it was, even if quirky and a bit throw away lyrically.

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Reply #146 posted 09/27/21 1:03pm

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Pretty much all of his older albums and some 90s stuff. 00s and 10s are the best IMO.

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Reply #147 posted 09/27/21 4:26pm

alphastreet

26ten said:



alphastreet said:


I had musicology, I couldn’t get into it aside from the title track and pimp, coma, circumstance


What about Dear Mr Man? That track is absolutely the high point for me, and the first few listens I was similar and didn't even remember the track until recently.



I also thought it was ok, nice concept
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Reply #148 posted 10/04/21 8:34pm

26ten

FullLipsDotNose said:

Pretty much all of his older albums and some 90s stuff. 00s and 10s are the best IMO.



I personally seem to prefer his 1996 to 2004 period, there is something about the way they sound (especially both Raves) but I find I revisit his 80s material least. I recognize the cutting edge aspects, and when I first listened to him that was the era I got into, but I think I maybe overdid it or something. Funny because at this point I've listened to his post 80s music a lot more, but there is so much of it and the music is so subtle that I don't get tired of it in the same way.

But the albums I've lived least, despite having heard them all a lot are

Gold Experience
Lotus Flower
Rainbow Children
Musicology

I would personally take Graffiti Bridge over TGE anyway easily. The title tracks to both albums are easily the weakest parts of the albums funny enough.
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Reply #149 posted 10/05/21 3:34am

milesb

Emancipation was the first Prince album that disappointed me.

I was expecting utter brilliance after all the hype and his new new found freedom.

I thought he'd save his best for that album.

Don't get me wrong, there are some gems on it. But for me it marked the end of the run for his great albums. I suppose there was a lot going on for him at that tumulteous time. It mustve had a profound effect on him. His albums never found the lofty heights again after that.

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