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Reply #90 posted 09/05/21 8:11pm

GustavoRibas

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lurker316 said:

rainbowchild said:

The Gold Experience



(...) I don't think it's aged well (...)

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I am a huge Prince fan, but this is something I wish Prince was different. Unfortunately he loved some cheesy plastic drum programming and keys/synths. And, when it´s not used in a masterpiece album, it has a huge risk of being dated.

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Having said that, I LOVE The Gold Experience (only wished Interactive, The Ride and Days of Wild were there), but some tracks are overproduced. But it still has some real cool tracks and my fave P band ever (the NPG 95 with the Hornheadz)

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Reply #91 posted 09/06/21 4:38pm

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GustavoRibas said:

lurker316 said:



(...) I don't think it's aged well (...)

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I am a huge Prince fan, but this is something I wish Prince was different. Unfortunately he loved some cheesy plastic drum programming and keys/synths. And, when it´s not used in a masterpiece album, it has a huge risk of being dated.

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Having said that, I LOVE The Gold Experience (only wished Interactive, The Ride and Days of Wild were there), but some tracks are overproduced. But it still has some real cool tracks and my fave P band ever (the NPG 95 with the Hornheadz)



WHen I think of cheesy drum programming, I think of Emancipation, not the Gold Album.

I think his '80s drum programming was incredible. It was fresh, innovative and like nothing else on the radio. It was five years ahead of the times. In contrast, the drum programming on Emancipation was five years behind the times.

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Reply #92 posted 09/07/21 8:49am

steakfinger

W2A

Planet Earth

N.E.W.S.

Chaos and Disorder

Crystal Ball 98

The Truth

Lotusflow3r/MPLSound

Plectrumelectrum

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Reply #93 posted 09/07/21 9:02am

fortuneandsere
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Only 5 albums leave me feeling real disappointed as a prince fan.

Goldnigga

The Chocolate Invasion
The Slaughterhouse
C-Note
Xpectation

Even those I still listen to occasionally. Everything else is at least 8/10.


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #94 posted 09/07/21 10:35am

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rusty1 said:

themanfromneptune said:

Dirty Mind

Graffiti Bridge

Diamonds & Pearls

3121

Dirty Mind is when he found himself musically "DM", "When u were mine", "Head", "Uptown" one of his best albums

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To be honest I think you can never got into a good album too. Maybe I listened Dirty Mind at the wrong time.

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Reply #95 posted 09/07/21 3:05pm

hyperpessimist

- Kamasutra... I never intend to ever listen to it again, it's just hubris gone wrong

- Hit n Run Phase One... Horrible, messy production (I rescue June, an absolute gem IMHO)

- Rave... What a desperate mess, trying to get a hit at all costs, firing in all directions... such poor sequencing... a few tracks I love (Tangerine, Strange But True, Silly Game), but as a whole, I can't take it.

- Batman... meh. A handful of good songs, but as a whole, it was such a comedown after the string of extraordinary albums.

- Welcome 2 America... what a major, major letdown.

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Reply #96 posted 09/08/21 6:39am

Vannormal

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Kamasutra

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Musicology

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Lotus Flower

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Plectrumelectrum

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Hit'nRun Phase One

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Reply #97 posted 09/08/21 9:29am

Cinny

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Poplife88 said:

prince


I'm glad someone else can admit to it. Everyone on this board was 23 years old when it came out and loves it.

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Reply #98 posted 09/08/21 9:33am

fortuneandsere
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Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #99 posted 09/08/21 10:03am

NoSwan

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herb4 said:

Exodus is God Tier levels of funk and one of Prince's best albums IMO



Indeed. Personally, I prefer Exodus to The Black Album. In this place Is a blasphemy, I know.
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Reply #100 posted 09/08/21 10:13am

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Empress said:

Poplife88 said:

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Yikes! Seriously? It's one of my favourites. For me, I would have to say NEWS.

Yeah...NEWS and PLANET EARTH (and I'm just saying the album in general, I know there's a couple good tracks) I try and try... but I just can't. no no no!

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Reply #101 posted 09/08/21 10:35am

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NoSwan said:

herb4 said:

Exodus is God Tier levels of funk and one of Prince's best albums IMO

Indeed. Personally, I prefer Exodus to The Black Album. In this place Is a blasphemy, I know.


Exodus is an album that should be worshipped by all lovers of funk. Likewise, The Black Album. Exhibit A.

The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #102 posted 09/08/21 10:37am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?


Yes

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
That's what U want, TRANSCENDENCE. When that happens, O Boy -Prince 2015
https://www.youtube.com/w...nm2Qq6QTFs
#IDEFINEME
“Strong people define themselves; weak people allow others to define them.” ― Ken Poirot
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Reply #103 posted 09/08/21 10:39am

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SoulAlive said:

GustavoRibas said:

I dont know if it happens with other artists/bands, but it´s interesting how different Prince fans can be. I never thought I would see ´Around the World in a Day´ here. It would be like some Stevie Wonder fan dissing ´Talking Book´. And ATWIDAD is not in my top 5 too, but it´s considered a classic.

What's more shocking to me is that...one orger listed 1999 eek

I know it's all subjective and we all have our own opinions,but dayyyyum! lol

lol

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
That's what U want, TRANSCENDENCE. When that happens, O Boy -Prince 2015
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Reply #104 posted 09/08/21 10:42am

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herb4 said:

I don't care much for ATWIAD either but it's interesting at least and I get why he did it.

Problem was, he buried the best songs from it on b-sides for whatever reason.

I never thought of Prince's B sides as 'buried'
It was always "there is so much that there isn't enough room"

I thought by putting them on the B side they were being displayed

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
That's what U want, TRANSCENDENCE. When that happens, O Boy -Prince 2015
https://www.youtube.com/w...nm2Qq6QTFs
#IDEFINEME
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Reply #105 posted 09/08/21 10:46am

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Milty2 said:

SantanaMaitreya said:

I always thought that Around the World In a Day was regarded as a Prince classic. Were you guys really expecting a Purple Rain # 2?


I think it's regarded as a classic only because it's in his classic 80s run. I actually love the album because when you stack it up alongside the rest of his catalogue, you can see the length and breadth of his artistry and this album displays that.

A Lot of people dump on Temptation but the guitar on that really is a masterclass on blues and funk. The rhythms he conjures up on that were epic and should really be listened to with really good headphones.

I think if people edit the song and fade it out before the monologue they might look at it differently.
I love the song.
That is the album I wish Prince & the Revolution combined the Rasperry Beret & America videos band musicians and did more solo shows. Like the NICE France show. I wish his 85 Birthday show exhibited the ATWIAD music. After hearing Temptation from the Nice France concert rehearsal, I was blown away.

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I'm glad to have seen that they also rehearsed/had them practice for Hello(extended version) as well as Girl and She's Always In My Hair

#ALBUMSSTILLMATTER
That's what U want, TRANSCENDENCE. When that happens, O Boy -Prince 2015
https://www.youtube.com/w...nm2Qq6QTFs
#IDEFINEME
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Reply #106 posted 09/08/21 11:31am

lurker316

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lurker316 said:


For You
Come
Emancipation
The Vault... Old Friends for Sale
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
One Nite Alone...
Musicology
Planet Earth
MPLSound
20Ten
Plectrum Electrum

Also his instrumental albums, Xpectation and N.E.W.S.




I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.


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Reply #107 posted 09/08/21 11:41am

Milty2

lurker316 said:

lurker316 said:


For You
Come
Emancipation
The Vault... Old Friends for Sale
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
One Nite Alone...
Musicology
Planet Earth
MPLSound
20Ten
Plectrum Electrum

Also his instrumental albums, Xpectation and N.E.W.S.




I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.


That's a pretty good feeling when it happens. I'm not overly jazzed about that album (as opposed to LotusFlower which I love) but it does have great songs on it.

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Reply #108 posted 09/08/21 12:41pm

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lurker316 said:



rainbowchild said:


The Gold Experience



I know yours is an unpopular opinion, but I agree.

Granted, when it first came out I aboslutely loved the Gold Experience. Back then I thought it was a return to his '80s form.

But over the years I've gradually grown to dislike it. I don't think it's aged well. The title track itself may be my least favorite. It's such a blatant attempt at making formulaic anthem rock, to the point of being partonizing. And the lyrcis? "All that glitters and gold." How cliche is that?





The lyrics are actually "All that glitters ain't gold.
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Reply #109 posted 09/08/21 12:45pm

Poplife88

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heymistermusic said:

Empress said:

Yikes! Seriously? It's one of my favourites. For me, I would have to say NEWS.

Yeah...NEWS and PLANET EARTH (and I'm just saying the album in general, I know there's a couple good tracks) I try and try... but I just can't. no no no!

I like NEWS and Planet Earth more than prince. Sorry...that thing is a mess. Tony M, the whole creepy underage princess thing, and there's Kirstie Ally. barf

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Reply #110 posted 09/08/21 5:57pm

Milty2

Poplife88 said:

heymistermusic said:

Yeah...NEWS and PLANET EARTH (and I'm just saying the album in general, I know there's a couple good tracks) I try and try... but I just can't. no no no!

I like NEWS and Planet Earth more than prince. Sorry...that thing is a mess. Tony M, the whole creepy underage princess thing, and there's Kirstie Ally. barf


When you put it that way, yeah I guess it's a mess lol. I never thought of it like that.

I still think it's a great Prince album though.

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Reply #111 posted 09/08/21 6:43pm

Cindy

Lurker, I love that you gave another listen to one of your albums.


Please give another listen to Old Friends 4 Sale. My favourites are (in order) When the Lights Go Down, 5 Women, Extraordinary, Old Friends 4 Sale.


I rate my first 3 song favourites all a 10/10. Thanks for allowing me to chime in.

lurker316 said:

lurker316 said:


For You
Come
Emancipation
The Vault... Old Friends for Sale
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
One Nite Alone...
Musicology
Planet Earth
MPLSound
20Ten
Plectrum Electrum

Also his instrumental albums, Xpectation and N.E.W.S.




I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.


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Reply #112 posted 09/09/21 12:01am

Vannormal

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Are there any people here who don't like Kamasutra but love instrumental music in general?

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Absolutely.

Big big fan of artists like Nils Frahm, Glass, Reich, Sakamoto, Dupree, Alva Noto, Sylvian, Beuvinck, Max Richter, Gonzalez, Johannsson, Cage, etc...

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WHat Prince concerns; all Madhouse albums are stunning (to me), N.E.W.S. is good and Xpectation is fair atleast to me.

Kamasutra is pretty impossible to listen to, not even understand what he tried with that, as if he completely lost it, IMHO of course.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #113 posted 09/09/21 12:02am

Vannormal

lurker316 said:

lurker316 said:

For You
Come
Emancipation
The Vault... Old Friends for Sale
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
One Nite Alone...
Musicology
Planet Earth
MPLSound
20Ten
Plectrum Electrum

Also his instrumental albums, Xpectation and N.E.W.S.

I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.

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Exactly, same over here. smile

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #114 posted 09/09/21 8:19am

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Vannormal said:

lurker316 said:

I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.

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Exactly, same over here. smile

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It's very common for me to change my mind on individual songs, but it's less common me for to reevaluted an album as a whole. The only other examples I can think of are my assessments of Grafitti Bridge and The Gold Experience, both of which have changed for the worse over time. MPLSound might be the first time an entire album has grown on me for the better.

I should also clarify that, while I now like MPLSound as an album, that doesn't mean I enjoy every song on it. "Better with Time" bores me and "No More Candy" annoys me.

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Reply #115 posted 09/09/21 11:55am

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fortuneandserendipity said:

Only 5 albums leave me feeling real disappointed as a prince fan.

Goldnigga


The Chocolate Invasion
The Slaughterhouse
C-Note
Xpectation

Even those I still listen to occasionally. Everything else is at least 8/10.




C-NOTE has to be saved from the mold because of Tokyo. Easily one of Prince's most languid and mesmerizing instrumental.
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Reply #116 posted 09/09/21 6:28pm

fortuneandsere
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NoSwan said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Only 5 albums leave me feeling real disappointed as a prince fan.

Goldnigga

The Chocolate Invasion
The Slaughterhouse
C-Note
Xpectation

Even those I still listen to occasionally. Everything else is at least 8/10.


C-NOTE has to be saved from the mold because of Tokyo. Easily one of Prince's most languid and mesmerizing instrumental.


Wish I could agree with you but it's not a patch on the track Madhouse 8.


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #117 posted 09/10/21 7:48am

Poplife88

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Cindy said:

Lurker, I love that you gave another listen to one of your albums.


Please give another listen to Old Friends 4 Sale. My favourites are (in order) When the Lights Go Down, 5 Women, Extraordinary, Old Friends 4 Sale.


I rate my first 3 song favourites all a 10/10. Thanks for allowing me to chime in.

lurker316 said:



I posted this list only two weeks ago... However, yesterday I decided to give MPLSound another try as I was commuting home from work. Much to my surprise, I really liked it!

I've had this experience before, where songs/albums I hated I later learned to enjoy. That's one reason I try to revisit all of his albums, even my least favorite, because I know there's always a chance my mind will be changed. Obviously it doesn't always happen, but when it does it's a good thing because it means I have even more songs to listen to.


Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.

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Reply #118 posted 09/10/21 3:15pm

lurker316

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Poplife88 said:

Cindy said:

Lurker, I love that you gave another listen to one of your albums.


Please give another listen to Old Friends 4 Sale. My favourites are (in order) When the Lights Go Down, 5 Women, Extraordinary, Old Friends 4 Sale.


I rate my first 3 song favourites all a 10/10. Thanks for allowing me to chime in.

Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.


I'm pretty ambivalent about it. I don't actively dislike it, but it doesn't do much for me. I could change my mind, so I'll be sure to revisit it every year or so.

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Reply #119 posted 09/10/21 4:29pm

Cindy

Poplife88 said:

Cindy said:

Lurker, I love that you gave another listen to one of your albums.


Please give another listen to Old Friends 4 Sale. My favourites are (in order) When the Lights Go Down, 5 Women, Extraordinary, Old Friends 4 Sale.


I rate my first 3 song favourites all a 10/10. Thanks for allowing me to chime in.

Old Friends 4 Sale is THE most underrated Prince album out there imo. It's become one of my absolute faves of the 90s. When the Lights Go Down love 5 Women, She Spoke 2 Me, and Extraordinary are all top tunes. The title track loses some of its umph with the new lyrics, but is still great.


Underrated indeed! I also really like There is Lonely.

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