JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

And utilize Record Store Day or create there own (Wrecka Stow Day) for special releases (Camille, Dream Factory etc. Live releases)

Fuck RSD, paying 40 dollars for a limited vinyl, no thanks for me. I would have rather buy the CD version at 10 bucks. But yeah, I know, that wouldn't be the same profit for them...

It's your choice to buy something or not.
I don;t care if it's "expensive" if I want something I have a choice to buy it or not, a simple concept.

kewlschool said:

Isn't this the last year of WB being able to release a deluxe set under their label? If so, the Deluxe(D&P) is going to happen. And as some one mention about the 1999 deluxe time line. It still could happen. If we hear nothing by the end of September-most likely not? I still think it's going to happen, too much profit on these deluxe sets.

From what I understand, that deadline passed at the end of 2020.

I believe that - in the US - Warners now retains the rights to the soundtrack albums (Purple Rain, Graffiti Bridge, Parade, Batman) and Sony has rights to everything else in the catalogue... although I'm unclear on where that stands regarding vault material. Seems like Sony have rights to vault material, with the release of Welcome 2 America.

As for the rest of the world, I believe Warners retain the rights for all albums produced under their banner.... this is where it all gets confusing.

Rimshottbob said:

JorisE73 said:

Rimshottbob said:

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

It's your choice to buy something or not.
I don;t care if it's "expensive" if I want something I have a choice to buy it or not, a simple concept.

The true choice would be something widely available, not overtaxed because of shipping and scarcity, and also available on CD format, which is the original format, amd was NEVER thought/recorded for vinyl.

As far as I know Prince was always more pro vinyl than CD, especially in his last years.
I would also rather see CD releases but, as in back the day, I love the blown up covers of vinyl more.
I understand the money thing for some people but to me that;s not a problem and because of that a (overpriced, maybe) RSD release should be a option.

Or they could do limited vinyl releases on RSD and 3 months later do a normal CD release of them. There's a lot of options that could satisfy everyone. RSD is a good promo tool they could use.

JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Well not me. As I said the release was announced quite soon before it came out, 2-3 months.

We are still in mid August, not Septenber yet, so quite conceivable that it could be announced soon for a late November release as with 1999 deluxe.

[Edited 8/18/21 11:43am]

And scrapping what's left of the" promotion" of W2A? Fucking all the W2A left in stores ? Do they/we really want that? I never saw the wreckastores ordering so many Prince's album since a long time, even for Musicology there wasn't so many in stores the first week. So maybe it s reasonable to think the estate and the wreckastores would rather sell their loads of W2A before releasing anything else? I never saw so many good press reviews for a Prince studio album. Obviously, nothing will be announced until W2A leave the sales charts. For the moment, the 2nd week of sales looks like the 1st week of Originals and Piano and Mic. It still in the top ten in the US after all. Too soon to see if it has legs, but it seems it is. It s a commercial and critical success, maybe they think it can win awards or some shit like that. Abd are you aware about the German Rolling Stone Magazine with the Hot Summer single being available until late September, the box set being available in Japan only late August? [Edited 8/18/21 12:25pm]

It's mediocre and is dropping out of the charts very fast.

As I said before, W2A should not cannibalise D and P sales, those are safe whatever, it's such a classic. Also Sony and WB are competitors, they don't necessarily have to work together. What they may do is wait until October 1 (D and P release anniversary) to make the announcement so as not to ruin W2A sales but still could be released by the end of the year.

Back in 2019 a lot of people were saying the same in the late summer, oh 1999 can't be released this year but it was. Contrary to what some people are posting here, they don't wait til the announcement to make the vinyl and cds, they would have started production way in advance...

[Edited 8/19/21 9:24am]

TheFreakerFantastic said:

RODSERLING said:

Turning the multiple CDs Emancipation or Crystal Ball in a 12 or 16 sides is completely useless to me.

I don't see the problem, just don't buy them if they are useless to you but other fans might enjoy this.

JorisE73 said:

As far as I know Prince was always more pro vinyl than CD, especially in his last years.

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Dude made albums that were blatantly CD oriented (GB, D&P, ,...). His last couple of albums didn't even appear on vinyl.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Also Sony and WB are competitors, they don't necessarily have to work together.

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Except in both cases The Estate is involved.

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Back in 2019 a lot of people were saying the same in the late summer, oh 1999 can't be released this year but it was.

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There was no COVID19 back then.

JorisE73 said:

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:

I don't see the problem, just don't buy them if they are useless to you but other fans might enjoy this.

The problem, like I said, is that the reissue are not released on CD anymore. How many times should I say the same thing? [Edited 8/20/21 5:20am]

Try it a couple of more times.
It isn't a problem. You just try to make it a problem. As far as I know the reissues were reissued alo on CD except for The Truth.

[Edited 8/20/21 6:13am]

BartVanHemelen said:

JorisE73 said:

As far as I know Prince was always more pro vinyl than CD, especially in his last years.

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Dude made albums that were blatantly CD oriented (GB, D&P, ,...). His last couple of albums didn't even appear on vinyl.

I know, I was going of that weird rant he did on listening to music with circular motion compared to digital music (0 and 1) and how he prefered vinyl or something.

JorisE73 said:

If the D&P box set (and Crystal Ball) will in deed happen, they won't be announced until way after they've gone into production.

These days, all of us in the industry tend to wait setting any release dates until we know when the vinyl versions will be delivered from the pressing plant.

Which is about 4-7 months at the moment, depending on which pressing plant is being used.

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

They'll announce it later this month With the release in October Though I wouldn't be surprised if its later. I doubt it has to be released exactly on the same day it came out in 91 [Edited 8/11/21 4:00am]

well rhino posted this to their facebook page a few days ago:



https://www.facebook.com/RHINO/photos/a.10151836168069617/10160222991829617



so that makes it more and more likely that a D&P deluxe IS coming.

RODSERLING said:

As much as we would love another SDE it would be commercial suicide. I'de rather see lots more promotion of W2A & keep those sales ticking over & boost the wider catalogue sales through the xmas period. Seems far more sensible for the next SDE to be around March 2022 & dare I say it another SDE in Nov 22.

In the meantime I think we all hope that far more online content is released.

RODSERLING said:

D&P is a big like 15 vinyls release,

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15?

Why?

udo said:

udo said: