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Reply #120 posted 09/21/21 3:23pm

LILpoundCAKE

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Gett Off (all versions plus bsides):

95 minutes (aprox)

Cream (all versions plus bsides):

40 minutes (aprox)

Insatiable (edit and bside)

08 minutes aprox

Diamonds & Pearls (edit and bside alternate length)

10 mins aprox

Money Don't Matter 2Nite (edit and bside)

09 mins aprox

Thunder (promo contains an edit and single a Gett Off Thrust Dub not incl on the G/O singles?)

10 mins aprox (possibly, maybe these don't count)




so roughly 170 minutes lol oh dear lord.


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Reply #121 posted 09/21/21 3:25pm

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given the choice between 170 minutes of remixes edits and bsides, or 170 minutes of vault material (even if that includes UNHEARD remixes), I know what I would choose.

it would be pretty neat if they did just 1 disc full of the best remixes and bsides and left it at that.


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Reply #122 posted 09/21/21 9:43pm

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If we don't hear an anouncment of D&P SD by Oct 1st it looks like it wont happen this year. As for back up on vinyl making, I don't think that plays to much into the release date since Prince brings in the big bucks more so than most top ten artists today (physical album sales). Making Prince a priority over most artists making vinyl.

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Reply #123 posted 09/21/21 10:28pm

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kewlschool said:

If we don't hear an anouncment of D&P SD by Oct 1st it looks like it wont happen this year. As for back up on vinyl making, I don't think that plays to much into the release date since Prince brings in the big bucks more so than most top ten artists today (physical album sales). Making Prince a priority over most artists making vinyl.



Most artists making vinyl doesnt release a 13 or 15 LP boxset.
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Reply #124 posted 09/22/21 8:58pm

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RODSERLING said:

kewlschool said:

If we don't hear an anouncment of D&P SD by Oct 1st it looks like it wont happen this year. As for back up on vinyl making, I don't think that plays to much into the release date since Prince brings in the big bucks more so than most top ten artists today (physical album sales). Making Prince a priority over most artists making vinyl.

Most artists making vinyl doesnt release a 13 or 15 LP boxset.

Thus Prince getting a priority. More vinyl physical sales more money.

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Reply #125 posted 09/23/21 4:08am

RODSERLING

kewlschool said:



RODSERLING said:


kewlschool said:

If we don't hear an anouncment of D&P SD by Oct 1st it looks like it wont happen this year. As for back up on vinyl making, I don't think that plays to much into the release date since Prince brings in the big bucks more so than most top ten artists today (physical album sales). Making Prince a priority over most artists making vinyl.



Most artists making vinyl doesnt release a 13 or 15 LP boxset.

Thus Prince getting a priority. More vinyl physical sales more money.



But there's already a Prince vinyl release scheduled for November, the PR remastered.
Of course, most of us doesn't care, but it's not nothing.

I m sure it will propell the album in the top tem US sales the week of release.
A very high competitive week, but PR is selling usually so well, that it shouldn't be too hard.
So that's to be taken into consideration.

Edit : on the Target site, the preorders are already sold out.
Understandable, since fams all over the world can only preorder this at Target.
Amd all the sales will be taken into account in the US.

It is likely they will produce more to be in stores for the casual consumers when shopping, with great exposition.
Purple Rain Vinyl is good for a Christmas gift apparently.

So to me, that's it for 2021.
I hope to be proven wrong though, I want D&P for Christmas, since they already gave up on the W2A promotion.
[Edited 9/23/21 4:39am]
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Reply #126 posted 09/23/21 5:33am

FrankieCoco1

...except I don’t think the estate have given up on W2A just yet. Only 3 days ago on Twitter they pushed a link for “1000 Light Years From Here”. So they are keeping up similar effort to what they were since release.
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Reply #127 posted 09/23/21 5:52am

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...except I don’t think the estate have given up on W2A just yet. Only 3 days ago on Twitter they pushed a link for “1000 Light Years From Here”. So they are keeping up similar effort to what they were since release.


Their tweets are generating zero sales and a few dozens of streams.
It's time they get aware of that.
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Reply #128 posted 09/23/21 12:50pm

FrankieCoco1

Think they might still try this minimal approach for promotion of W2A until the AMAs in November. Is there much competition this year for ‘Favourite Album R&B’?

If they do want to continue pushing it, I’d suggest a stream or a digital release of the whole concert from the Blu-Ray, or release the blu-Ray as a stand-alone (or even a blu-Ray/CD package) might be worth it before Xmas. Depends how much stock of the Deluxe they’ve got filling up a warehouse, if they want to continue with it.

Still, fingers crossed for something big announced next Friday🤞
Not that I think anything will 🙁
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Reply #129 posted 09/23/21 2:48pm

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Why not releasing W2A in audio cassette?
That will make a surge in sales.

They should have used the money they spent on buying views on YT on making at least a lyric or archival video of some sort.
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Reply #130 posted 09/23/21 4:29pm

FrankieCoco1

And I’ve just spotted their tweets and official Facebook posts today, drawing attention to the concert, in particular John Blackwell’s drumming. There’s a link to The Bird from the show on the tweet/post.
[Edited 9/23/21 16:30pm]
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Reply #131 posted 09/24/21 12:48am

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On a related note WRT the just announced 30th anniversary box set of Nirvana's Nevermind:

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All formats of Nevermind 30 are released on 12 November, except the 8LP vinyl super deluxe which won’t be shipping until 27 May 2022!

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So the vinyl edition will arrive more than six months after the CD release.

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Reply #132 posted 09/24/21 12:51am

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FrankieCoco1 said:

Depends how much stock of the Deluxe they’ve got filling up a warehouse

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In recent days on Amazon UK, the deluxe set has decreased from £96.50 (a price it has had for a long while) to £88, and then mere days later to £79, so it kinda looks like Amazon is trying to shift some inventory by slashing the price.

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Reply #133 posted 09/24/21 1:28am

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How about we get the Welcome 2 America CD/Blu-ray Japan import distributed worldwide first?


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Reply #134 posted 09/24/21 1:56am

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BartVanHemelen said:



FrankieCoco1 said:


Depends how much stock of the Deluxe they’ve got filling up a warehouse

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In recent days on Amazon UK, the deluxe set has decreased from £96.50 (a price it has had for a long while) to £88, and then mere days later to £79, so it kinda looks like Amazon is trying to shift some inventory by slashing the price.



Since Musicology, and even before that (but Musicology began his stream of mainstream releases), Prince'album didn't get a second life.
Mainly because they stopped printed it after six months, but there are never marketing operations in wreckastores where his current albums are discounted at 7 €/$.
They are always sold at the original price of release.

Hence, his albums can't get a second life because they are too expensive for catalogue albums.

Sony put in wreckastores so many W2A to get high exposition, that one can wonder what will become of the many unsold copies.

I never saw so much albums in stores for a Prince release, so there's hope that this time, they will discount its price to find a new audience and get a second life.
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Reply #135 posted 09/24/21 2:49am

Vannormal

BartVanHemelen said:

On a related note WRT the just announced 30th anniversary box set of Nirvana's Nevermind:

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All formats of Nevermind 30 are released on 12 November, except the 8LP vinyl super deluxe which won’t be shipping until 27 May 2022!

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So the vinyl edition will arrive more than six months after the CD release.

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Looks like a smart cash-cow decision.

Nirvana doesn't have that much of a big back catalogue like Prince does.

Anyways.

Fans sure will have to buy the CD package first, or download the songs,

and later on the vinyl colleciton if they want.

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But as an idea for a Prince release, I wouldn't mind either.

Just don't know if it'll work - revenue wise.

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Reply #136 posted 09/24/21 2:57am

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They should open a plant just for printing Prince vinyls.
That would be the solution.
There would be a department office dedicated only to Gett Off's remixes.
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Reply #137 posted 09/24/21 3:12am

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I would rather forget 2021 and start afresh in 2022.

I would prefer the schedule to include just; a Warner deluxe release, a Sony vault release and Originals 2.

I would also like to see a big reduction in the formats as these are getting out of control.

As we all know, as it is well documented across the internet, vinyl production is in crisis. So this will massively effect what happens in 2022 and I hope it will mean the reduction in vinyl formats.

It is time for the Estate to get realistic. They need to provide fans with quality content and to stop ripping us off.

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Reply #138 posted 09/24/21 3:22am

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They could have released for the end of year something like The Undertaker on vinyl/CD.
As I have already stated, they should always get a b-plan for an easy-to-be released cash grabbing in case they are out of scheduled with huge boxseta.
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Reply #139 posted 09/24/21 5:51am

FrankieCoco1

RODSERLING said:

They should open a plant just for printing Prince vinyls.
That would be the solution.
There would be a department office dedicated only to Gett Off's remixes.


Would there be space at Paisley Park to have a record plant, may be like 3rd Man Records?
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Reply #140 posted 09/24/21 9:53pm

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RODSERLING said:

They could have released for the end of year something like The Undertaker on vinyl/CD.
As I have already stated, they should always get a b-plan for an easy-to-be released cash grabbing in case they are out of scheduled with huge boxseta.


The Undertaker sounds like anus and it’s compressed all to hell. That shit sounded like-fi even when it came out. I don’t think enough people would care to make it worth the $$ to press them. That Stones cover is especially weak.
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Reply #141 posted 09/25/21 12:15am

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There is a story in a Dutch newspaper today on how vinyl prices are going through the roof. One example they give is how ATWIAD cost a mere €17 a while ago, but if you want a fresh copy today you'll pay over €50 (and that €50 is a price where the record store doesn't make its usual profit). The reason (in part?) is the worldwide lack of resources due to various crises (even paper prices are going up in ridiculous ways).

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The store owner was really worried because vinyl sales have sustained his store in recent years, its boom has helped soften the blow from the rapid decline in sales of CDs, but these new prices will scare peopel away because nobody is going to pay absurd prices for catalog releases like ATWIAD) or even new releases.

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Reply #142 posted 09/25/21 4:02am

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Apparently, Warner is the label with the highest inflation to come, according to a french article.
How much really cost a vinyl, without recorded music, to produce?

I m sure it must be no more than 3 dollars.
There were many titles in stores at 10 euros ( Thriller, Police, Miles Davis etc.), I bought a Little Richard vinyl a 5 euros amd there were many titles at that price.

So to me they are just greedy motherfuckers.
The price of vinyl boxsets is ridiculous
They make you pay 20$ by vinyl, whereas they should make a cheaper price for the whole collection, like 15$ by vinyl.

Let's hope they will release D&P only on CD, to be there for Christmas. It was never intented to be heard on vinyl anyway
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Reply #143 posted 09/25/21 8:51am

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RODSERLING said:

Apparently, Warner is the label with the highest inflation to come, according to a french article. How much really cost a vinyl, without recorded music, to produce? I m sure it must be no more than 3 dollars. There were many titles in stores at 10 euros ( Thriller, Police, Miles Davis etc.), I bought a Little Richard vinyl a 5 euros amd there were many titles at that price. So to me they are just greedy motherfuckers. The price of vinyl boxsets is ridiculous They make you pay 20$ by vinyl, whereas they should make a cheaper price for the whole collection, like 15$ by vinyl. Let's hope they will release D&P only on CD, to be there for Christmas. It was never intented to be heard on vinyl anyway

You're basing that entirely on your guess that it's probably about $3 to make. And what do you mean D+P wasn't intended to be heard on vinyl? If that was the case it wouldn't have had a vinyl release in 1991.

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Reply #144 posted 09/26/21 10:33pm

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embmmusic said:



RODSERLING said:


Apparently, Warner is the label with the highest inflation to come, according to a french article. How much really cost a vinyl, without recorded music, to produce? I m sure it must be no more than 3 dollars. There were many titles in stores at 10 euros ( Thriller, Police, Miles Davis etc.), I bought a Little Richard vinyl a 5 euros amd there were many titles at that price. So to me they are just greedy motherfuckers. The price of vinyl boxsets is ridiculous They make you pay 20$ by vinyl, whereas they should make a cheaper price for the whole collection, like 15$ by vinyl. Let's hope they will release D&P only on CD, to be there for Christmas. It was never intented to be heard on vinyl anyway

You're basing that entirely on your guess that it's probably about $3 to make. And what do you mean D+P wasn't intended to be heard on vinyl? If that was the case it wouldn't have had a vinyl release in 1991.



No, I m. Basing that on the vinyl prices sold in stores.
If a new vinyl is sold directly 5 or 10 euros, then ot must not be that expensive to produce.

D&P had a very limited release in vinyl in 1991.
It sold more vinyls in 2017 than in 1991 biggrin-D.
It was just a little niche in 1991, and had almost disappeared by 1992.

With its lenght, its low dynamic range sound, the number of remixes, etc. D&P is tailored for the CD format ( and of course audio cassette).
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Reply #145 posted 09/27/21 12:40am

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My guess and more = D&P Box set » 2022
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Reply #146 posted 09/27/21 11:37am

FrankieCoco1

What do people make of the latest Prince tweet/Facebook post?

“Thank you to all the fans (and fams) around the world who have supported the release of #Welcome2America from Prince's legendary vault. It charted in the Top 5 in numerous countries, including Sweden, France, Spain, Canada, and America, and received global critical acclaim.”

It’s accompanied by a photo of Prince bowing.

To me this suggests the end of the promotion of W2A, unless they do an encore!
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Reply #147 posted 09/27/21 12:11pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

What do people make of the latest Prince tweet/Facebook post?

“Thank you to all the fans (and fams) around the world who have supported the release of #Welcome2America from Prince's legendary vault. It charted in the Top 5 in numerous countries, including Sweden, France, Spain, Canada, and America, and received global critical acclaim.”

It’s accompanied by a photo of Prince bowing.

To me this suggests the end of the promotion of W2A, unless they do an encore!


W2A s promotion ended the day of the release.
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Reply #148 posted 09/27/21 12:49pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

What do people make of the latest Prince tweet/Facebook post? “Thank you to all the fans (and fams) around the world who have supported the release of #Welcome2America from Prince's legendary vault. It charted in the Top 5 in numerous countries, including Sweden, France, Spain, Canada, and America, and received global critical acclaim.” It’s accompanied by a photo of Prince bowing. To me this suggests the end of the promotion of W2A, unless they do an encore!

Yup. This feels like a big thank you before an announcement...

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Reply #149 posted 09/28/21 7:16am

FrankieCoco1

And today the symbol logo on Prince Twitter and Facebook has been changed from the gold background to purple. Something’s going on, but it might be just to tie in with the Target Purple Rain purple vinyl.
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