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Printabledodger said: RJOrion said: of course a certain segment of his so called fanbase hates to hear him speak on these prevailing concerns... they'd rather hear him screaming about Little Red Corvettes, and jacking people off while masturbating in a magazine til the end of all time. Judging by these threads this is spot on He can speak his mind as much as he likes but it does not automatically make for a good song. It's all personal taste if course but i don't find the music ar lyrics very engaging. Love the production though. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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I'm pretty stunned at all the know-it-alls on this site....
Of course, no one has to like anything, but here's a new track from our man that's been out the gate for like 5 minutes and many of you all have it tarred, feathered and ready to hang.
Cheesus.
Give the damn thing a chance to breathe.
I mean I'm all for discussion, but some of the comments on here. Did you just hear Prince's music for the first time, today? Wow.
I'm not sure why this is being released... it's not funky enough... it's too political... it's not really a song.
All bullshit. Sorry. Get those ears listening a little more and stop throwing the obvious fruit. At least give the album a chance before you disregard it completely.
LOL.... you folks......
WE WANT NEW PRINCE MUSIC!!! WE WANT NEW PRINCE MUSIC!!! WE WANT NEW PRINCE MUSIC!!!!
here's some new Prince music..... (a 3-second silence)
NOT THIS PRINCE MUSIC!!!!!! WE DON'T LIKE THIS PRINCE MUSIC!!!! NOT THIS PRINCE MUSIC!!!!! |
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DOIN' IT 2 U IN YO EARHOLE
drumzhole edit [Edited 4/10/21 14:05pm] "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJzylk8d_M
C'mon. i like my Prince, but this is a full circle uncut-re-cut. . Wear yo sunglasses "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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^ this guy's got it. w2a is great and the album will be great and i even catch myself whistling hot summer around the house sometimes. sorry, haters. |
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LET ME RIDE "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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c'mon. this is a cool track, there's so much going on you just have to pay attention to it, and even on the surface the chill and spaced out vibe sunk into me real quick, i love it. some of the lyrics are dumb, but i like the spoken word delivery and i think this absolutely kicks the shit out of most of 20ten. i have high hopes for the rest of this record. |
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Where's the HIGH-FIVE emoji, haha!
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^ this guy's got it. w2a is great and the album will be great and i even catch myself whistling hot summer around the house sometimes. sorry, haters. I think both Hot Summer and Same Page Different Book are decent songs and I enjoy the new single. I don't expect W2A to be a masterpiece but I think it will be good album. I would be more worried if Purple and gold was on this album  [Edited 4/10/21 14:20pm] Welcome 2 The Dawn | |
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"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Where's the HIGH-FIVE emoji, haha!
Most people here will get the album regardless of the first impressions. I think it's mainly the SD that seems to under deliver. But I'll always buy his new and old music. The HQ-er formerly known as krokostimpy. | |
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RJOrion said: of course a certain segment of his so called fanbase hates to hear him speak on these prevailing concerns... they'd rather hear him screaming about Little Red Corvettes, and jacking people off while masturbating in a magazine til the end of all time. Not really. I like money dont matter 2nite, sign o the times. Diff being they are also good songs. They are also more coherent. If prince wrote better songs about race, politics, etc in his later years, that would be fine. My personal preference for songs in this period is just the songs where he wasnt repeating himself, where he wasnt trying to do typical sexy prince. e.g here, breakdown, June, reflection, revelation. |
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Actually dyou know what, it is true that I dont care much to hear princes political thoughts. And that's not cos occasionally he gets it right, he does, but mostly I'm just not interested in hearingtthat from him. Not cos i dont want to hear it from a black artist, I just dont really take it that seriously from prince. And mostly, hes just not that good at it. He lacks that gravitas. Its also cos of his track record. I dont see him like I do gil Scot heron, a nina simone, or even a James brown. So give me old vault tracks about jacking off, little red corvettes, and vibrators please, and do it soon.
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. I'M WITH YOU, PARTNER! .
I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here. |
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I am glad I am not the only one that didnt understand exactly what Prince is trying to say there. I thought it is because I dont live in the USA and didnt notice some of the references. . The song is cool, but, like somebody said, it´s basically an intro to the album. Not a good choice for a single, if the Estate wanted it to be outside of his die-hard fanbase. I enjoy listening to it, but I doubt a non-fan will. |
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I’m digging the track. Can’t wait for the album. I’ve been informed that my opinion is worth less than those expressed by others here. |
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The message of the song really isn't that complicated, I don't think. It's basically about corruption. How the US is supposed to be this land of opportunity, but has soured into a place where corruption rules and where people will do anything to get famous and stay rich.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he might have held the album back because he ultimately felt this was too negative a message.... of course, we haven't heard most of the rest of the album yet, and Hot Summer isn't in the same cynical vein.... but still.
And I think people need to understand the difference between singles in the classic sense, and promotional releases.
The moment Prince died he became a LEGACY ARTIST. That's what he is now. Legacy artists don't have chart hits.... I'm sure there are a few exceptions that someone will quickly point out, but those are just that - very rare exceptions.
Releasing the title track early is not 'releasing a single' in the sense that it's trying to have a hit... it's simply raising awareness of the album's existence, and using the title track is the perfect way to do that.
Some people on here act like they think Prince should still be having hits, or charting or getting played on the radio.
That is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Prince is dead. The wider world does not care about any of his releases going forward.
These are all archival releases. They are worth releasing because they become part of the catalogue that trickles money in over time, as well a small initial surge on first release. This is why there are deluxe editions that are more pricey, to bring in those extra dollars.
Also, there is no 'winning over a new fan base' for legacy artists. The only people the estate are releasing these to are those that are already paying attention.
It's the same with every big legacy act.... Bowie, Led Zepellin, King Crimson, etc. etc.... hell, it's even how they work it with Dylan's catalogue and he's still around making great music.
You pacakge up releases and sell them for good money to the existing fanbase who are the ones that want this stuff.... Any additional sales to newbies are a bonus.
And although this may sound reductive, it's worth doing because it also puts more product out there, so that over time, yes, more people may pick up on the catalogue through a streaming recommendation, etc.
But this whole idea of 'we need to recruit more soldiers into the army of Prince listeners' is very unrealistic, I'm afraid.
All that said, those people saying 'this isn't a real song' and 'this is a weird choice for a single', are, to me, caught somewhere between not knowing what a real song is and not understanding the difference between 'singles' and 'promos'.
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The message of the song really isn't that complicated, I don't think. It's basically about corruption. How the US is supposed to be this land of opportunity, but has soured into a place where corruption rules and where people will do anything to get famous and stay rich.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he might have held the album back because he ultimately felt this was too negative a message.... of course, we haven't heard most of the rest of the album yet, and Hot Summer isn't in the same cynical vein.... but still.
And I think people need to understand the difference between singles in the classic sense, and promotional releases.
The moment Prince died he became a LEGACY ARTIST. That's what he is now. Legacy artists don't have chart hits.... I'm sure there are a few exceptions that someone will quickly point out, but those are just that - very rare exceptions.
Releasing the title track early is not 'releasing a single' in the sense that it's trying to have a hit... it's simply raising awareness of the album's existence, and using the title track is the perfect way to do that.
Some people on here act like they think Prince should still be having hits, or charting or getting played on the radio.
That is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. Prince is dead. The wider world does not care about any of his releases going forward.
These are all archival releases. They are worth releasing because they become part of the catalogue that trickles money in over time, as well a small initial surge on first release. This is why there are deluxe editions that are more pricey, to bring in those extra dollars.
Also, there is no 'winning over a new fan base' for legacy artists. The only people the estate are releasing these to are those that are already paying attention.
It's the same with every big legacy act.... Bowie, Led Zepellin, King Crimson, etc. etc.... hell, it's even how they work it with Dylan's catalogue and he's still around making great music.
You pacakge up releases and sell them for good money to the existing fanbase who are the ones that want this stuff.... Any additional sales to newbies are a bonus.
And although this may sound reductive, it's worth doing because it also puts more product out there, so that over time, yes, more people may pick up on the catalogue through a streaming recommendation, etc.
But this whole idea of 'we need to recruit more soldiers into the army of Prince listeners' is very unrealistic, I'm afraid.
All that said, those people saying 'this isn't a real song' and 'this is a weird choice for a single', are, to me, caught somewhere between not knowing what a real song is and not understanding the difference between 'singles' and 'promos'.
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there are 110 days left until the album drops. or about 15 weeks. so that's room enough for more singles from this album. it's ok that they went with this type of mission statement intro track as it will be better to give the project more push toward the release date with more radio friendly singles. | |
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This site had been overtaken by some trolls for months now and we all know who they are. The calibre of prince org has fallen from the past sadly | |
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loved reading these last few posts, you are spot on. I concider anything released now as a gift. I do not expect another Sign of The Times quality track or album to be released. And i think that would be stupid to expect. The quailty of vault tracks released so far including this one, has actually surprised me how decent they are. I think this is a good track. Prince is my favorite artist by a counry mile. And wish he was still here. And to be frank anything more i get from him is a blessing to me. And of course there are some songs or concerts that are stronger than others. The huge amount of material that prince recorded there is bound to be hit amd miss, but that is kinda the beauty of following Prince isnt it [Edited 4/11/21 4:54am] |
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antonb said: loved reading these last few posts, you are spot on. I concider anything released now as a gift. I do not expect another Sign of The Times quality track or album to be released. And i think that would be stupid to expect. The quailty of vault tracks released so far including this one, has actually surprised me how decent they are. I think this is a good track. Prince is my favorite artist by a counry mile. And wish he was still here. And to be frank anything more i get from him is a blessing to me. And of course there are some songs or concerts that are stronger than others. The huge amount of material that prince recorded there is bound to be hit amd miss, but that is kinda the beauty of following Prince isnt it [Edited 4/11/21 4:54am] Nicely put. I agree with all of that. And I would be happy just with middle ranking songs at this point, but this one just seems lifeless, and underwritten. It's not even average. I'd file it in a playlist called underwhelming prince tributes in the mould of his 70s heroes. But fingers x the album has a few keepers. I'm sure it will. [Edited 4/11/21 5:18am] |
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I love the song and am really looking forward to this album! |
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LILpoundCAKE said: there are 110 days left until the album drops. or about 15 weeks. so that's room enough for more singles from this album. it's ok that they went with this type of mission statement intro track as it will be better to give the project more push toward the release date with more radio friendly singles. 100% last paragraph!!! | |
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Opinions, man. |
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I love the “realness” of W2A. The lyrics, the arresting vocal and instrumental performances, that bass!! It’s not pop star stuff by any stretch and I’m delighted by that. Prince always made me happiest in the long-term when he challenged me from the start. I cannot wait to hear this complete album. I think it might be very special. | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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livewire said: I love the “realness” of W2A. The lyrics, the arresting vocal and instrumental performances, that bass!! It’s not pop star stuff by any stretch and I’m delighted by that. Prince always made me happiest in the long-term when he challenged me from the start. I cannot wait to hear this complete album. I think it might be very special. All these are my sentiments exactky | |
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I'm loving it. The sound, the production, the delivery, the bass...
I find this more exciting and engaging than anything else released since Prince's passing. For me, these kind of unreleased time capsule albums sequenced and produced as Prince intended are a lot more desirable and authentic. * [Edited 4/11/21 17:13pm] | |
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