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Reply #30 posted 04/11/21 5:26pm

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Cool preview. Can't wait to hear the rest.

https://www.cbsnews.com/n...021-04-11/

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Reply #31 posted 04/11/21 5:31pm

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Good story. I have it on pre-order (got it for $90 now it is $100), but I bet it will be for sale for $70 by the end of the year.


I am interested in the etching. (I think they should do several different ones: but it would be called a money grab.

To the story: it was good. Played parts of several songs. Good promotion but maybe a couple of months early.

And when the said 8000 songs and nearly 1000 albums? Maybe if the count every live and rehearsal recordings. No way he has that many studio recorded songs.

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Reply #32 posted 04/11/21 5:35pm

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Anywhere to see the 60 Minutes segment? Missed it earlier

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Reply #33 posted 04/11/21 5:40pm

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fernandomachado said:

Does anyone knows why it wasn't released?

Why the long gap between 20Ten and ArtOfficialAge/PlectrumElectrum?

Wasn't the rumor that Prince did his hip surgery around 2010?

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Reply #34 posted 04/11/21 5:51pm

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born 2 die could top colonized mind for slow burner epic

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Reply #35 posted 04/11/21 5:52pm

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Born 2 Die sounds nice biggrin
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Reply #36 posted 04/11/21 6:03pm

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Full 13-minute segment officially from CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/n...021-04-11/

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Reply #37 posted 04/11/21 6:31pm

dsimp8

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Born 2 Die sounds nice biggrin

Yes it does !Got a 70s funk sound to it

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Reply #38 posted 04/11/21 7:41pm

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Aristotle said:

Full 13-minute segment officially from CBS News: https://www.cbsnews.com/n...021-04-11/


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Reply #39 posted 04/11/21 7:58pm

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60minutes on youtube has more of the interview with Morris.

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Reply #40 posted 04/11/21 8:35pm

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Just watched it. Not too impressed. Da album cood still be hot, but the 60 minutes show was not. Did they ever try to put Prince on when he was alive? I don't think so.

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Reply #41 posted 04/11/21 9:32pm

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After hearing the snippets,I am beyond excited for the welcome 2 America album
I I wasn't going to purchase the deluxe set but I will now.It doesn't come out until july,so for those of you who are on a budget like myself,that is plenty of time to save up.
After all,it is PRINCE music we are talking about.Prince is still one of very few artists I will spend my hard earned money on.It is always worth it
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Reply #42 posted 04/12/21 12:37am

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Lots of cringe in the 60minutes item but still exciting - like following tv appearances back in the day. Morris and Shelby were awesome and the snippets definitely did the job of raising the pulse rate. Very cool exposure IMO
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Reply #43 posted 04/12/21 3:12am

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sro100 said:

Just watched it. Not too impressed. Da album cood still be hot, but the 60 minutes show was not. Did they ever try to put Prince on when he was alive? I don't think so.

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Prince demanded absurd money for the use of his music on TV. Questlove has said this several times of the years.

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At a certain point TV shows simply won't bother trying. Let's not forget that he was supposed to promote two new albums on a mornign show in 2014 and couldn't even be arsed and sent 3rd Eye Girl. That's the kind of BS that gets you "blacklisted".

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Reply #44 posted 04/12/21 3:15am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

And when the said 8000 songs and nearly 1000 albums? Maybe if the count every live and rehearsal recordings. No way he has that many studio recorded songs.

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Yeah, that was some grade-A BS. That would mean he'd recorded an average of 200+ unreleased songs per year on top of his released output. Yeah, that didn't happen. Hell, almost all of his songs on GB were recycled tracks from earlier years: that's not something he'd need to do if he was recording hundreds of songs each year.

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Reply #45 posted 04/12/21 3:32am

Number23

BartVanHemelen said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:



And when the said 8000 songs and nearly 1000 albums? Maybe if the count every live and rehearsal recordings. No way he has that many studio recorded songs.



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Yeah, that was some grade-A BS. That would mean he'd recorded an average of 200+ unreleased songs per year on top of his released output. Yeah, that didn't happen. Hell, almost all of his songs on GB were recycled tracks from earlier years: that's not something he'd need to do if he was recording hundreds of songs each year.


Agreed there’s certainly not 8000 songs in the Vault, but in regards to GB I clearly recall reading an interview with Prince in the 90s where he said that particular project was an experiment to see if he could update ‘old’ music with a new sound and that the songs were quite deliberately plucked from the Vault, most from a particular era where the Time/P rivalry was still an active thing - clearly it was all linked in his head. He also mentioned that the end of a decade seemed appropriate for a ‘cleaning up’ exercise. And come on, you know as well as the rest of us here how many songs P recorded in 88/89 that could have filled a triple of album of top notch new material in 1990. It was clearly a conscious artistic decision not to do so - fuck all to do with faith in new material etc. One thing Prince didn’t lack in the 80s was belief in his artistry.
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Reply #46 posted 04/12/21 3:40am

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Number23 said:

BartVanHemelen said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:



And when the said 8000 songs and nearly 1000 albums? Maybe if the count every live and rehearsal recordings. No way he has that many studio recorded songs.



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Yeah, that was some grade-A BS. That would mean he'd recorded an average of 200+ unreleased songs per year on top of his released output. Yeah, that didn't happen. Hell, almost all of his songs on GB were recycled tracks from earlier years: that's not something he'd need to do if he was recording hundreds of songs each year.


Agreed there’s certainly not 8000 songs in the Vault, but in regards to GB I clearly recall reading an interview with Prince in the 90s where he said that particular project was an experiment to see if he could update ‘old’ music with a new sound and that the songs were quite deliberately plucked from the Vault, most from a particular era where the Time/P rivalry was still an active thing - clearly it was all linked in his head. He also mentioned that the end of a decade seemed appropriate for a ‘cleaning up’ exercise. And come on, you know as well as the rest of us here how many songs P recorded in 88/89 that could have filled a triple of album of top notch new material in 1990. It was clearly a conscious artistic decision not to do so - fuck all to do with faith in new material etc. One thing Prince didn’t lack in the 80s was belief in his artistry.


Those tracks on GB were 'recycled' due to the project changing and Prince returning to his persona as 'the kid'. He needed earlier songs written during that period and turned to the vault. Quite a logical and reasonable choice. It doesn't imply in any way that he was short of new material.

The recently leaked demos from the beginning of the GB project, illustrate what the album could've sounded like.
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Reply #47 posted 04/12/21 4:38am

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Number23 said:


Agreed there’s certainly not 8000 songs in the Vault, but in regards to GB I clearly recall reading an interview with Prince in the 90s where he said that particular project was an experiment to see if he could update ‘old’ music with a new sound and that the songs were quite deliberately plucked from the Vault, most from a particular era where the Time/P rivalry was still an active thing - clearly it was all linked in his head. He also mentioned that the end of a decade seemed appropriate for a ‘cleaning up’ exercise. And come on, you know as well as the rest of us here how many songs P recorded in 88/89 that could have filled a triple of album of top notch new material in 1990. It was clearly a conscious artistic decision not to do so - fuck all to do with faith in new material etc. One thing Prince didn’t lack in the 80s was belief in his artistry.


Those tracks on GB were 'recycled' due to the project changing and Prince returning to his persona as 'the kid'. He needed earlier songs written during that period and turned to the vault. Quite a logical and reasonable choice. It doesn't imply in any way that he was short of new material.

The recently leaked demos from the beginning of the GB project, illustrate what the album could've sounded like.

Um yeah, that’s kinda what I said.
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Reply #48 posted 04/12/21 5:54am

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Yeah... Too much bull shit in this one. The 8000 songs thing is just silly, but there were also a couple of mentions about not performing the W2A album songs not being performed on the tour - which is wrong.

Welcome 2 America - Played numerous times throughout the tour (and no, not the Dreamer interpolation)
Same Page, Differect Book - Played during a one-off giig during W2A tour.
When She Comes - Played during a one-off giig during W2A tour (as above).

And then before/ after...

Hot Summer - Played twice during the 20TEN Tour.
Check The Record - later performed in 2013 at the Dakota Jazz Club.

These would have made some nice inclusions as bonus features to the concert.

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Reply #49 posted 04/12/21 6:02am

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Also this was in the intro - "It was 2010 and Prince set out on his Welcome 2 America Tour, playing sold-out venues. He divered a mix of hits and pop anthems drawn from his 39 studio albums..."

Clearly someone just wnt to wikipedia, looked at the talley and did not bother to subtract the last four albums... Or acknowledge the protege content... Or the covers...

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Reply #50 posted 04/12/21 6:14am

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bluegangsta said:

Yeah... Too much bull shit in this one. The 8000 songs thing is just silly, but there were also a couple of mentions about not performing the W2A album songs not being performed on the tour - which is wrong.

Welcome 2 America - Played numerous times throughout the tour (and no, not the Dreamer interpolation)
Same Page, Differect Book - Played during a one-off giig during W2A tour.
When She Comes - Played during a one-off giig during W2A tour (as above).

And then before/ after...

Hot Summer - Played twice during the 20TEN Tour.
Check The Record - later performed in 2013 at the Dakota Jazz Club.

These would have made some nice inclusions as bonus features to the concert.

Welcome 2 America was played ONCE as a full rendition (New York 2010), all other times it was played as part of Dreamer. Also, the lyrics he sung in both cases are for some reason almost completely different than the studio version.

Same Page Different Book and When She Comes were played both in small clubs, and definitely not rehearsed, and certainly they were not part of a set of songs that band members are given as "hey we're going on tour, we're playing this set of songs".

Hot Summer was just a chorus with Prince playing guitar. Check The Record was played by 3rdEyeGirl, not the NPG.

So, what they said is actually true.

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Reply #51 posted 04/12/21 6:16am

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bluegangsta said:

Also this was in the intro - "It was 2010 and Prince set out on his Welcome 2 America Tour, playing sold-out venues. He divered a mix of hits and pop anthems drawn from his 39 studio albums..."

Clearly someone just wnt to wikipedia, looked at the talley and did not bother to subtract the last four albums... Or acknowledge the protege content... Or the covers...


"He delivered a mix of hits and pop anthems drawn from his studio albums, of which 35 out of 39 had been released at that point, not including protege content and other ancillary material, though we should clarify that he did not draw from ALL 35 albums for this particular tour, but quite a few of them, and he played several covers..."



Yes yes much better not at all pedantic, good job A+++

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Reply #52 posted 04/12/21 6:44am

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kewlschool said:

fernandomachado said:

Does anyone knows why it wasn't released?

Why the long gap between 20Ten and ArtOfficialAge/PlectrumElectrum?

Wasn't the rumor that Prince did his hip surgery around 2010?


Yes.

My guess is that he had 20TEN in the can before he did that, then came back with the Welcome 2 America tour (which started in December of 2010) after he'd finished his hip rehab.

The Welcome 2 tour stretched to September 2012. The announcement of this coincides with the 10th anniversary of the start of the LA dates of the tour (which started 4/14/11).

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Reply #53 posted 04/12/21 7:13am

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Number23 said:

OperatingThetan said:



Those tracks on GB were 'recycled' due to the project changing and Prince returning to his persona as 'the kid'. He needed earlier songs written during that period and turned to the vault. Quite a logical and reasonable choice. It doesn't imply in any way that he was short of new material.

The recently leaked demos from the beginning of the GB project, illustrate what the album could've sounded like.

Um yeah, that’s kinda what I said.


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Reply #54 posted 04/12/21 7:38am

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I really like the sound of Born 2 Die and Check The Record.

I got a Feel Better Feel Good Feel Wonderful vibe from Check the record.

Shame there weren't a few more snippets of songs.
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Reply #55 posted 04/12/21 8:00am

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Number23 said:

And come on, you know as well as the rest of us here how many songs P recorded in 88/89 that could have filled a triple of album of top notch new material in 1990.

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Which would be him dipping into the vault, because when you look at this list it is rather clear that 1990 wasn't exactly a great year.

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Reply #56 posted 04/12/21 8:21am

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Romeoblu said:

I really like the sound of Born 2 Die and Check The Record. I got a Feel Better Feel Good Feel Wonderful vibe from Check the record. Shame there weren't a few more snippets of songs.


Thank you! You know it was sounding familiar but new. I definitely never heard the other songs as "one off live performance" bootlegs.

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Reply #57 posted 04/12/21 8:28am

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Romeoblu said:

I really like the sound of Born 2 Die and Check The Record.

I got a Feel Better Feel Good Feel Wonderful vibe from Check the record.

Shame there weren't a few more snippets of songs.

Yes I was surprised how good the studio version of Check the record sounds.
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Reply #58 posted 04/12/21 8:50am

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bluegangsta said:

Also this was in the intro - "It was 2010 and Prince set out on his Welcome 2 America Tour, playing sold-out venues. He divered a mix of hits and pop anthems drawn from his 39 studio albums..."

Clearly someone just wnt to wikipedia, looked at the talley and did not bother to subtract the last four albums... Or acknowledge the protege content... Or the covers...


The articles also keep referencing "The Vault" that is stored at Paisley Park, not mentioned that it was moved to Iron Mountain for safekeeping/digitizing.

The interviewer mentioned that we could get a new Prince album a year for the next century. I highly doubt Prince shelved 2-3x what he actually released. Once you dismiss alternate versions, etc. that number would go down considerably.

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Reply #59 posted 04/12/21 9:03am

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The snippets sound very promising.
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