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lurker316

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Has the Gold Experience aged well?


I'm one of those people who became a fan in the '80s and generally hated Prince's output in the '90s. But I'm also one of those fans who always thought The Gold Experience was a great album and an exception. It eschewed most of the hip-hop sound that I thought had ruined Diamonds and Pearls and the Symbol Album. And it wasn't bland like some of this stuff from later in the decade (Emancipation). I thought it did a great job of updating Prince's '80s sound by having Michael B on the drums and the Hornheadz. I always ranked it as not only the best album of the '90s, but one of Prince's best albums period.

However, I rarely listen to it now. I don't think it's aged well. My track-by-track thoughts (segues excluded... from my review that is; I wish they'd been excluded from the ablum):

  • P Control: Fairly catchy, but lyrics are embarassing.
  • Endorphin Machine: Great song.
  • Shhh: Great drum intro, but not much else to the song.
  • We March: Catchy bubblegum pop. I don't mind it when I hear it, but won't go out of my way to listen to it.
  • TMBGITW: Sappy song to being with, ruined by sound effects.
  • Dolphin: Good song.
  • Now: I absolutely love the music (especially the horns), but I'm not a fan of the shouty chorus.
  • 319: I really like this song, but it's a bit of gimmick.
  • Shy: I like this song, but it's a bit of a gimmick as well.
  • Billy Jack Bitch: I never got the appeal of this song. It's kind of catchy, but it doesn't go anywhere. Too monotonous for me.
  • I Hate U: Reminds me of International Lover, and I didn't like that song either.
  • Gold: Derivative. A blatant attempt to make commericial song to appeal to the lowest common denominator. And the lyrics are just as awful as P Control, albeit in a different way. "All that glitters ain't gold," is so trite and cliched.


So there are some things I still appreciate about it, but it doesn't hold up overall for me. Looking back, I may have just been thrilled that Prince ditched the hip-hop. The only songs I listen to now are Endorphin Machine, Dolphin, Now and 319.


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Reply #1 posted 01/23/21 10:01am

TheEnglishGent

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Still sounds great to me but I've aged too.

RIP sad
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Reply #2 posted 01/23/21 10:04am

TrivialPursuit

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lurker316 said:

  • Emancipation: Great song.


"Emancipation" was on The Gold Experience? Was that a promo copy?

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #3 posted 01/23/21 10:11am

TrivialPursuit

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I believe the album is probably his best of the 90s, aside from Exodus. It's solid material front to back (except "Shy," which I've removed from my player, and never listen to - fite me). I've always said this is the 90s Purple Rain. For anyone who wanted part 2, here it is.

P Control - it's still a fun rousing song.

Endorphinmachine - no one does rock like Prince, that solo, that scream!

Shhh - great ballad, well thought out and executed

We March - a simpler song, but the social message was still ahead of its time when so few Black artists were talking about this stuff, or - at the very least - being heard while saying it/ WB fight nuances

TMBGITW - I love TGE redux, but the original is a perfect little ballad; the extra production feels more inherent to the album's production

Dolphin - song about WB, and a low-key jam

Now - Just as fun, if not more, than "P Control"

319 - Nasty, dirty, funky, the 90's "Darling Nikki" or "Temptation"

Billy Jack Bitch - so fucking funky underneath, the almost call-and-response of the verses is great

I Hate U - Prince being all sexy and angsty at the same time, love it; could also be about WB if no one knew about Carmen

Gold - the Purple Rain of the 90s. MJ may have tried to redo "Man in the Mirror" with "Heal The World," but it failed. "Gold" is more upbeat but still so incredibly anthemic, and feel good, just like "Purple Rain." It's also a slight narrative on the WB situation, too. The solo is incredible.

Play this back to back with Exodus, and ya mama won't even recognize ya after!

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #4 posted 01/23/21 10:48am

savagedreams

doesnt sound like you liked the album to begin with so of course it hasnt aged well, to you.

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Reply #5 posted 01/23/21 11:35am

SoulAlive

I think it still packs a punch.It's a strong,powerful album with many highlights....the Purple Rain of the 90s.

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Reply #6 posted 01/23/21 11:36am

SoulAlive

yeah,I feel the same way nod

TrivialPursuit said:

I've always said this is the 90s Purple Rain.

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Reply #7 posted 01/23/21 11:43am

runningbear

I agree it has not aged well, but was not super crazy about it ever, it still is good. The song Gold sounds like the standout to my ears now, a Purple Rain for the 90s. Come is superior in my books, less fat, less effort put into it, but ends up feeling much less forced, less bloated. Space, Letitgo, and Gold are my favs from these 2 records. Maybe unfair to compare Gold to Come, but same time frame and so intertwined become inevitable

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Reply #8 posted 01/23/21 11:56am

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TrivialPursuit said:

I believe the album is probably his best of the 90s, aside from Exodus. It's solid material front to back (except "Shy," which I've removed from my player, and never listen to - fite me). I've always said this is the 90s Purple Rain. For anyone who wanted part 2, here it is.

P Control - it's still a fun rousing song.


Endorphinmachine - no one does rock like Prince, that solo, that scream!


Shhh - great ballad, well thought out and executed


We March - a simpler song, but the social message was still ahead of its time when so few Black artists were talking about this stuff, or - at the very least - being heard while saying it/ WB fight nuances


TMBGITW - I love TGE redux, but the original is a perfect little ballad; the extra production feels more inherent to the album's production


Dolphin - song about WB, and a low-key jam


Now - Just as fun, if not more, than "P Control"


319 - Nasty, dirty, funky, the 90's "Darling Nikki" or "Temptation"


Billy Jack Bitch - so fucking funky underneath, the almost call-and-response of the verses is great


I Hate U - Prince being all sexy and angsty at the same time, love it; could also be about WB if no one knew about Carmen


Gold - the Purple Rain of the 90s. MJ may have tried to redo "Man in the Mirror" with "Heal The World," but it failed. "Gold" is more upbeat but still so incredibly anthemic, and feel good, just like "Purple Rain." It's also a slight narrative on the WB situation, too. The solo is incredible.

Play this back to back with Exodus, and ya mama won't even recognize ya after!



Co-sign
It's probably my favourite album so it's aged fine to me. Of course you could argue the interactive concept and segues sound dated but I still love it.
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My only disappointment at the time was the absence of Days Of Wild and Acknowledge Me after absolutely loving those on The Beautiful Experience movie
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Reply #9 posted 01/23/21 12:07pm

alphastreet

I love we march, billy Jack birch and gold. I think this was one of his better 90s albums
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Reply #10 posted 01/23/21 12:07pm

SoulAlive

To me,Come seems like a lazy album.A few good songs but nothing outstanding.Prince even sounds bored on a few tracks.TGE,on the other hand,sounds much more powerful and energized.And it contains "Eye Hate U",his finest single of the 90s imo.

runningbear said:

Come is superior in my books, less fat, less effort put into it,

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Reply #11 posted 01/23/21 12:33pm

jazzz

SoulAlive said:

I think it still packs a punch.It's a strong,powerful album with many highlights....the Purple Rain of the 90s.


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In that case it maybe should better have been titled “The Gold Shower” instead...
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Reply #12 posted 01/23/21 12:40pm

soladeo1

TGE comes at you PISSED. Like a killer football team. Full throttle. I holds bared. It soars, rocks, pulsates with vitality.

Plus is sounds amazing.

Best album of the decade.
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Reply #13 posted 01/23/21 1:04pm

RODSERLING

It didn't age well, since it s not available in stores/streaming anymore for the last 25 years.
It s a ghost album, just like The Black Album.
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Reply #14 posted 01/23/21 1:31pm

MIInsane

Love it. Loved it when it came out. Love it today.

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Reply #15 posted 01/23/21 1:45pm

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Now is just awful. Songs like wow on plectrum plectrum are like the sequel.

The keepers are
Endorphin
Shhh
Dolphin
319
Shy
Billy Jack
Eye hate u
Gold (silly lyrics but I cant help liking it)

If it was this short,it would be stronger. I'd add interactive to the start.
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Reply #16 posted 01/23/21 1:46pm

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soladeo1 said:

TGE comes at you PISSED. Like a killer football team. Full throttle. I holds bared. It soars, rocks, pulsates with vitality.

Plus is sounds amazing.

Best album of the decade.


You need to listen to other music if you think this is full throttle.
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Reply #17 posted 01/23/21 1:47pm

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runningbear said:

I agree it has not aged well, but was not super crazy about it ever, it still is good. The song Gold sounds like the standout to my ears now, a Purple Rain for the 90s. Come is superior in my books, less fat, less effort put into it, but ends up feeling much less forced, less bloated. Space, Letitgo, and Gold are my favs from these 2 records. Maybe unfair to compare Gold to Come, but same time frame and so intertwined become inevitable

Come has definitely aged a lot better than D&P, Symbol and TGE imho.

Songs like Dark, Papa, the title track and Space sound timeless. And although Letigo is of its time, it's a great, funky jam and one of his most underrated singles.

TGE has always sounded a bit too commercial for me. I know many fans rank it highly, but in terms of his 90s albums, I prefer Come, Symbol, Rave, Emancipation and even New Power Soul.

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Reply #18 posted 01/23/21 1:49pm

SoulAlive

Exactly! It's a relelntless,take-no-prisoners album.....the songs are truly inspired and loud.Prince ain't playing no games,he's on a mission!

soladeo1 said:

TGE comes at you PISSED. Like a killer football team. Full throttle. I holds bared. It soars, rocks, pulsates with vitality.
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Reply #19 posted 01/23/21 2:07pm

Blondies1973

I think it’s still an amazing album, best of the 90s by far. P Control is a dancefloor favourite, in-your-face, outrageous and funky in the way Head was 15 years earlier. Shy is one of his coolest songs ever; just those heels starting off the beat...

The segues I could do without. Also Billy Jack Bitch feels a little bit forced to me.
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Reply #20 posted 01/23/21 2:16pm

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I think it’s still an amazing album, best of the 90s by far. P Control is a dancefloor favourite, in-your-face, outrageous and funky in the way Head was 15 years earlier. Shy is one of his coolest songs ever; just those heels starting off the beat...

The segues I could do without. Also Billy Jack Bitch feels a little bit forced to me.


By the way, just the other day I found my old ”The Beautiful Experience” cd. Haven’t thought about for 20 years. A couple of the remixes just sound fantastic - Staxowax being my favourite.
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Reply #21 posted 01/23/21 2:28pm

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SoulAlive said:

Exactly! It's a relelntless,take-no-prisoners album.....the songs are truly inspired and loud.Prince ain't playing no games,he's on a mission!

soladeo1 said:

TGE comes at you PISSED. Like a killer football team. Full throttle. I holds bared. It soars, rocks, pulsates with vitality.

Hundalasiliah! Ditto. Plus, it sounds spectacular played on vinyl with a good turntable and sound system. I'm so happy that I snapped up the gold translucent numbered promo vinyl on eBay like 20 years ago 4 about $50 as it's now sky-high, same goes 4 the current price of the European black vinyl commercial release. It's too bad that the rights issue 4 TMBGITW is delaying a re-release. Although I think that the CD version isn't too hard 2 find at used CD stores. My fave trax from it: 319 & Endorphinmachine.

"purplelectricity whenever our bodies touch"
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Reply #22 posted 01/23/21 3:21pm

ForceofNature

The music has aged very well IMO, the loudness wars mastering not so much

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Reply #23 posted 01/23/21 4:02pm

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If you don't like Shhh and Eye Hate U, I'm not sure what to tell ya!

(Also Dolphin's the worst thing on there)

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Reply #24 posted 01/23/21 6:46pm

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Reply #25 posted 01/23/21 7:41pm

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MattyJam said:



runningbear said:


I agree it has not aged well, but was not super crazy about it ever, it still is good. The song Gold sounds like the standout to my ears now, a Purple Rain for the 90s. Come is superior in my books, less fat, less effort put into it, but ends up feeling much less forced, less bloated. Space, Letitgo, and Gold are my favs from these 2 records. Maybe unfair to compare Gold to Come, but same time frame and so intertwined become inevitable




Come has definitely aged a lot better than D&P, Symbol and TGE imho.

Songs like Dark, Papa, the title track and Space sound timeless. And although Letigo is of its time, it's a great, funky jam and one of his most underrated singles.



TGE has always sounded a bit too commercial for me. I know many fans rank it highly, but in terms of his 90s albums, I prefer Come, Symbol, Rave, Emancipation and even New Power Soul.


I agree that Come has aged better and I listen to it more often than TGE. It's a better album imo. But the best Prince album of the 90s is definitely prince
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Reply #26 posted 01/23/21 11:03pm

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The Gold Experience hasn't changed - you have.

How you feel it has aged may have more of a connection to how you have aged than the album itself.

It's all necessarily subjective, but I imagine if for example, you've grown cynical and developed a taste for nihilism, 'Gold' may no longer be your go-to anthem of choice.
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Reply #27 posted 01/23/21 11:25pm

JayCrawford

One of the worse Prince albums throughout his career. Horrible.

90s Prince 🤮
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Reply #28 posted 01/24/21 3:59am

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Yes

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Reply #29 posted 01/24/21 4:24am

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No album with pussy control as its first song will ever be taken seriously I'm afraid.
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