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Thread started 12/03/20 5:05am

Milty2

New York Times talks "Sign o The Times"

Not sure how to post the link becasue it's just an embedded video but the video is about 10 mins long and is on the front page of their website.

Or below:

https://www.nytimes.com/v...e&t=20

I'm sure it's all stuff we've heard before.

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Reply #1 posted 12/03/20 6:25am

bsprout

Great video, thanks for sharing. Yes it’s stuff we’ve mostly heard before but it’s demonstrated here in a visual way, which is cool, and cool that they put it on their website’s front page (I have a full subscription to the NYT and hadn’t seen this - I still read the print newspaper- so thanks again smile
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Reply #2 posted 12/03/20 6:28am

Genesia

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Actually, I had never heard any of the stuff about how he used the Fairlight. That was absolutely fascinating. Love, love, love hearing about process.

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Reply #3 posted 12/03/20 6:32am

cb70

Loved hearing the snippets of the isolated tracks. Wish those were longer and we could hear more songs broken down like that.

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Reply #4 posted 12/03/20 8:01am

ufoclub

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Love that NYT put this out.

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Reply #5 posted 12/03/20 8:04am

ufoclub

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wow... those isolated tracks. How did that happen?

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Reply #6 posted 12/03/20 8:14am

herb4

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.

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Reply #7 posted 12/03/20 12:59pm

Farfunknugin

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herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.



It'd be nice to hear an update on this
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Reply #8 posted 12/03/20 1:02pm

kinaldo

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This is great but is there any way to get the video URL to work so I can share it?

I know it's embedded on the NYT front page but I know most people won't bother watching if the actual video link isn't working unfort.

Edit: nevermind, seems to be working now! smile

[Edited 12/3/20 13:04pm]

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Reply #9 posted 12/03/20 2:30pm

FrankieCoco1

herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.



I’d forget about a Netflix documentary and just get Susan Rogers, Morris Hayes, Levi and whoever else who worked on the music talking about each song and how it was made, with snippets of the isolated tracks heard and the instruments and synths that were played.

For example, I’d love to know a bit more of how Eric Leeds/Matt Bliston added the horns to songs and what direction Prince gave. An example is Dorothy Parker and what discussions were had with anyone on leaving off the horns. Same goes with the horns/scatting on Coco Boys.
There may or may not be something coming!
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Reply #10 posted 12/03/20 3:30pm

bwaaatch

Footage of the waveforms from each of rack visualised on a display screen (but NOT on the Fairlight, as it looks too analogue and wrong colour?) caught my eye. It was 4:3 footage, so far from recent, and some visible noise that looked like it was from video tape. Feels like it could be from a contemporary source, and perhaps points to something cool in the vault — an interesting kind of material that we don’t often talk about here, but which does relate tit he recent thread about Prince in the studio.

Hard to tell, but were these shots also tiled in post production, as though this was recorded as a kind of documentary in 1987? So it’s not just raw footage, but there was an attempt to package it?
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Reply #11 posted 12/03/20 3:37pm

PRNelson

To my mind, the track 'Sign 'O the Times' was the last original blues song ever recorded. Not only for the unique sound but the theme.. he wasn't singing 'his' blues (my woman left me etc). He was singing the blues of the entire world.
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Reply #12 posted 12/03/20 4:55pm

herb4

FrankieCoco1 said:

herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.

I’d forget about a Netflix documentary and just get Susan Rogers, Morris Hayes, Levi and whoever else who worked on the music talking about each song and how it was made, with snippets of the isolated tracks heard and the instruments and synths that were played. For example, I’d love to know a bit more of how Eric Leeds/Matt Bliston added the horns to songs and what direction Prince gave. An example is Dorothy Parker and what discussions were had with anyone on leaving off the horns. Same goes with the horns/scatting on Coco Boys.


How do we know any of that won't be part of the documentary?

Also, several of the things you talked about are readily available in interviews and podcasts and such

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Reply #13 posted 12/03/20 8:14pm

paraded

BY FAR the most interesting part of this is hearing the vocal and the instruments by themselves and being introduced to the fairlight as an interface. We need a whole documentary (3 hrs) where each song (on a particular album) is allowed to breathe and have this kind of consideration on its musical level. Each instrument is its own musical universe. Hearing a single instrument alone is like hearing the song again from a totally different vantage.

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Reply #14 posted 12/03/20 8:15pm

Margot

I thought Susannah Melvoin was no longer in Prince's life when he was creating SOTT??

I hope Ezra Edelman interviews additional engineers for his documentary. Susan Rogers is over-represented.

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Reply #15 posted 12/03/20 9:39pm

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Reply #16 posted 12/03/20 9:41pm

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Reply #17 posted 12/03/20 10:28pm

SexyMuthaF

Prince doesn't like to see foolish people ruin it for everyone. Yup he wouldn't have liked 2020.
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Reply #18 posted 12/04/20 3:09am

BartVanHemelen

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bwaaatch said:

Footage of the waveforms from each of rack visualised on a display screen (but NOT on the Fairlight, as it looks too analogue and wrong colour?) caught my eye. It was 4:3 footage, so far from recent, and some visible noise that looked like it was from video tape. Feels like it could be from a contemporary source, and perhaps points to something cool in the vault — an interesting kind of material that we don’t often talk about here, but which does relate tit he recent thread about Prince in the studio.

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Oh for crying out loud, it is piss-easy to make pretend-bad-vhs-copy looking footage from a hi-def source. There are filters for that etc.

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Reply #19 posted 12/04/20 3:12am

BartVanHemelen

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SexyMuthaF said:

Prince doesn't like to see foolish people ruin it for everyone.

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their prince tattoos.

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Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.

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Reply #20 posted 12/04/20 4:10am

RJOrion

BartVanHemelen said:



SexyMuthaF said:


Prince doesn't like to see foolish people ruin it for everyone.

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their prince tattoos.


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Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.




chemtrails are very real... maybe you should come out of your dungeon and look up at the sky and see for yourself... or you can follow your own advice and do a GOOGLE SEARCH
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Reply #21 posted 12/04/20 5:45am

herb4

RJOrion said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their prince tattoos.

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Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.

chemtrails are very real... maybe you should come out of your dungeon and look up at the sky and see for yourself... or you can follow your own advice and do a GOOGLE SEARCH


LOL

edit:

Here's my google search:


https://www.smithsonianma...180960139/


https://www.theguardian.c...chemtrails


https://www.snopes.com/fa...onspiracy/


https://www.factcheck.org...hemtrails/

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Reply #22 posted 12/04/20 6:19am

jdcxc

BartVanHemelen said:

SexyMuthaF said:

Prince doesn't like to see foolish people ruin it for everyone.

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their prince tattoos.

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Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.


Study political theatre and political posturing, Dick Gregory, Black Satire and ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. Prince was an artist and knew exactly what he was doing. You just didn't get it.

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Reply #23 posted 12/04/20 6:41am

CoolMF

Interesting and nice to see how Levi's doing these days.

Until the last year or so as it goes with Prince music, I'd never heard of the "Fairlight" let alone see one but I've read so much recently about how integral it was to Prince's music so this was enlightening as it gave me a visual and the snippet about them being "around $25K at the time" puts it into better perspective.

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Reply #24 posted 12/04/20 8:16am

laytonian

herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.


It's being filmed.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #25 posted 12/04/20 8:19am

laytonian

RJOrion said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their prince tattoos.

.

Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.

chemtrails are very real... maybe you should come out of your dungeon and look up at the sky and see for yourself... or you can follow your own advice and do a GOOGLE SEARCH


Vapor trails. Do you seriously believe that something could go through a jet engine and not be consumed, then it'd be sprayed from 35,000 feet to target people? Seriously?

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #26 posted 12/04/20 8:42am

rednblue

laytonian said:

herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.


It's being filmed.


Thank you for the update! If you don't mind my asking, is Ezra Edelman directing it at this point?

I recall some confusion on here when Cat mentioned the names of some of the people she interacted with in connection with interviews, but the names she mentioned are (as far as I know) people who work with Ezra Edelman.

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Reply #27 posted 12/04/20 10:45am

jdcxc

laytonian said:

herb4 said:

This was cool and thanks for posting it

Makes me hunger for that Netflix documentary that (I think) is on hold or something.


It's being filmed.


Link pleeze...ive been searching all over for the status of this. Saw unofficially that Edelman was directing.

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Reply #28 posted 12/04/20 11:02am

v10letblues

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I saw the clip yesterday and it is wonderful. Great job by the NYT
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Reply #29 posted 12/04/20 11:11am

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paraded said:

BY FAR the most interesting part of this is hearing the vocal and the instruments by themselves and being introduced to the fairlight as an interface. We need a whole documentary (3 hrs) where each song (on a particular album) is allowed to breathe and have this kind of consideration on its musical level. Each instrument is its own musical universe. Hearing a single instrument alone is like hearing the song again from a totally different vantage.

That isolated playback of his guitar was EVERYTHING eek

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