nayroo2002 said:

paraded said:

BY FAR the most interesting part of this is hearing the vocal and the instruments by themselves and being introduced to the fairlight as an interface. We need a whole documentary (3 hrs) where each song (on a particular album) is allowed to breathe and have this kind of consideration on its musical level. Each instrument is its own musical universe. Hearing a single instrument alone is like hearing the song again from a totally different vantage.

That isolated playback of his guitar was EVERYTHING

It's pretty cool. Not sure if it's a real Fairlight screen (could be) but it's a nice touch hearing the isolated tracks.

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About the isolated musical parts;

isn't it possible with contemporary software to isolate parts of any song ?

Cause in the background you still here the entire track.

There's the isolated vocal only part of ''Let's Go crazy'' out there.

And someone told me you can do that yourself with the right software.

I'm no expert though, shoot me if i'm wrong.

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Vannormal said:

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About the isolated musical parts;

isn't it possible with contemporary software to isolate parts of any song ?

Cause in the background you still here the entire track.

There's the isolated vocal only part of ''Let's Go crazy'' out there.

And someone told me you can do that yourself with the right software.

I'm no expert though, shoot me if i'm wrong.

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I'm assuming that now the remastered tracks have a wider stereo field that music isolation software would produce a much better result?

nayroo2002 said:

paraded said:

BY FAR the most interesting part of this is hearing the vocal and the instruments by themselves and being introduced to the fairlight as an interface. We need a whole documentary (3 hrs) where each song (on a particular album) is allowed to breathe and have this kind of consideration on its musical level. Each instrument is its own musical universe. Hearing a single instrument alone is like hearing the song again from a totally different vantage.

That isolated playback of his guitar was EVERYTHING

Indeed. It was interesting to properly hear how David Gilmour they were, stripped of the bass, keys etc.

SimonCharles said:

nayroo2002 said:

That isolated playback of his guitar was EVERYTHING

Indeed. It was interesting to properly hear how David Gilmour they were, stripped of the bass, keys etc.

I never thought the guitar parts on SOTT had a David Gilmour tone but now that you mention it....

Milty2 said:

SimonCharles said:

Indeed. It was interesting to properly hear how David Gilmour they were, stripped of the bass, keys etc.

I never thought the guitar parts on SOTT had a David Gilmour tone but now that you mention it....

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...well it sort of is a bluesy track.

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Vannormal said:

Milty2 said:

I never thought the guitar parts on SOTT had a David Gilmour tone but now that you mention it....

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...well it sort of is a bluesy track.

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The phrasing and sustain just put me in mind of Brick in the Wall.

Vannormal said:

Milty2 said:

I never thought the guitar parts on SOTT had a David Gilmour tone but now that you mention it....

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...well it sort of is a bluesy track.

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"Bluesy" doesn't make it sound like one musician or the other. It's a composite of things.

SimonCharles said:

Vannormal said:

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...well it sort of is a bluesy track.

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The phrasing and sustain just put me in mind of Brick in the Wall.

I would agree but to me it's not as muscular as a David Gilmour guitar phrase.

Milty2 said:

SimonCharles said:

The phrasing and sustain just put me in mind of Brick in the Wall.

I would agree but to me it's not as muscular as a David Gilmour guitar phrase.

There is a lightness of touch in the SOTT guitar, yes. It just struck me, today, hearing that isolated guitar for the first time, of the similarities...kind of appropriate given the 'social commentary' nature of both songs.

SimonCharles said:

Milty2 said:

I would agree but to me it's not as muscular as a David Gilmour guitar phrase.

There is a lightness of touch in the SOTT guitar, yes. It just struck me, today, hearing that isolated guitar for the first time, of the similarities...kind of appropriate given the 'social commentary' nature of both songs.

The SOTT track that has a complete Pink Floyd guitar style is "It",

but the outtake "Empty Room" also has similar chord structure drama as "Comfortably Numb". you can really hear it on the "I'll Do Anything" version.

Vannormal said:

jdcxc said:

laytonian said:

It's being filmed.

Link pleeze...ive been searching all over for the status of this. Saw unofficially that Edelman was directing.

No link. Personal knowledge.

ufoclub said:

SimonCharles said:

There is a lightness of touch in the SOTT guitar, yes. It just struck me, today, hearing that isolated guitar for the first time, of the similarities...kind of appropriate given the 'social commentary' nature of both songs.

The SOTT track that has a complete Pink Floyd guitar style is "It",

but the outtake "Empty Room" also has similar chord structure drama as "Comfortably Numb". you can really hear it on the "I'll Do Anything" version.

Interesting - I'd never thought that of Empty Room before but now you mention it...!

Milty2 said:

SimonCharles said:

The phrasing and sustain just put me in mind of Brick in the Wall.

I would agree but to me it's not as muscular as a David Gilmour guitar phrase.

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True.

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A favorite Pink Floyd song: Comfortably Numb

A favorite Prince song: Empty Room

Hmmm...

One thing stood out to me - during the isolated vocal, you can hear him playing a synth that is not present (or audible) on the final mix. It seems to represent a scratch version of what would become the guitar part.

Vannormal said:

About the isolated musical parts;

isn't it possible with contemporary software to isolate parts of any song ?

Cause in the background you still here the entire track.

There's the isolated vocal only part of ''Let's Go crazy'' out there.

And someone told me you can do that yourself with the right software.

I'm no expert though, shoot me if i'm wrong.

There are numerous frequency isolation and AI-based programs that can do what you're describing, but the results are nowhere near as perfect as what was featured in the video. Typically, the extractions will feature artifacts from other instruments/ vocals that wouldn't otherwise be present.

In terms of Let's Go Crazy - the multitracks have leaked.

bluegangsta said:

One thing stood out to me - during the isolated vocal, you can hear him playing a synth that is not present (or audible) on the final mix. It seems to represent a scratch version of what would become the guitar part.

Vannormal said:

About the isolated musical parts;

isn't it possible with contemporary software to isolate parts of any song ?

Cause in the background you still here the entire track.

There's the isolated vocal only part of ''Let's Go crazy'' out there.

And someone told me you can do that yourself with the right software.

I'm no expert though, shoot me if i'm wrong.

There are numerous frequency isolation and AI-based programs that can do what you're describing, but the results are nowhere near as perfect as what was featured in the video. Typically, the extractions will feature artifacts from other instruments/ vocals that wouldn't otherwise be present.

In terms of Let's Go Crazy - the multitracks have leaked.

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Well thank you for solving that.

I heard that synth too in the isolated vocal.

And I relistened again, and indeed it is not audible in the known version.

I was not aware that it was a scratch version for the guitar part.

Have to relisten again. Wow. thank you.

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I also wish they wud do this with "Kiss"...a Master Class in pop sound craft and songwriting. The initial P acoustic version, David Z's work and Prince's final reconstruction wud b fascinating to break down.

Those isolated tracks are everything

jdcxc said:

I also wish they wud do this with "Kiss"...a Master Class in pop sound craft and songwriting. The initial P acoustic version, David Z's work and Prince's final reconstruction wud b fascinating to break down.

That's a great idea. I feel like that would be something Prince would be into if someone approached him and he actually agreed lol

jdcxc said:

I also wish they wud do this with "Kiss"...a Master Class in pop sound craft and songwriting. The initial P acoustic version, David Z's work and Prince's final reconstruction wud b fascinating to break down.

Mix Magazine did an extensive breakdown of it.

I don't know if this is the full article:
https://www.mixonline.com...iss-365014

jdcxc said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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And yet he sued the Org for daring to publish photos of people showing off their tattoos.

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Oh, and he went on TV and talked about chemtrails as if they were real.

Study political theatre and political posturing, Dick Gregory, Black Satire and ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. Prince was an artist and knew exactly what he was doing. You just didn't get it.

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Oh please. The dude believed in tons of kooky bullshit.

Vannormal said:

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Cause in the background you still here the entire track.

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tape bleed.

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https://youtu.be/7Q2scPrc1WE : this but for classic Prince tracks. Goddammit someone get Susan Rogers et al. in a control room with the multi-tracks for the classic shit and film them.

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BartVanHemelen said:

https://youtu.be/7Q2scPrc1WE : this but for classic Prince tracks. Goddammit someone get Susan Rogers et al. in a control room with the multi-tracks for the classic shit and film them.

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E X A C T L Y !!!

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Maybe someone should try to bring The Estate in contact with the makers of

''BBC Four programme Music Moguls: Masters of Pop''.

I just love that program.

Actually everyone here who feel a deep love for music in general should see this.

And Tony Visconti for sure is a wonderful guy who knows how to explain things.

I believe that Susan Rogers could do just the same.

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