Forgive me for the provoking title.. but

Prince might have found a good clean glorious path that helped him personally in some ways.

Like when alcoholics find god by AA.

That's good and all.

But artistically it tanked and watered his artistic expression.

He stopped being dirty and honest, and instead was detached and focused on pure, innocent, praising the almighty.

And went against his old self.

A split.

I do miss the naughty dirty daring Prince.

I'm not sure there is a heaven or a god, besides raw nature itself.

"Animals strike curious poses"

or one could say the religion was as much part of the artistry as prior phases of his career

lustmealways said:

or one could say the religion was as much part of the artistry as prior phases of his career

It was.

But not the purity/holy.

He had it integrated or mixed with sex. Not going full on.

Then he chose the religious side.

as in "sex and curse words are bad"

Maybe it happened at that bad ecstacy night?

Cancelling the black album etc.

I don't know! I'm just talking and thinking

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RogerRoger said:

lustmealways said:

or one could say the religion was as much part of the artistry as prior phases of his career

It was.

But not the purity/holy.

He had it integrated or mixed with sex. Not going full on.

Then he chose the religious side.

as in "sex and curse words are bad"

Maybe it happened at that bad ecstacy night?

Cancelling the black album etc.

I don't know! I'm just talking and thinking

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The cussing and x-rated stuff got the most intense in the mid 90's, didn't it? Gold Experience tour, etc

ufoclub said:

RogerRoger said:

It was.

But not the purity/holy.

He had it integrated or mixed with sex. Not going full on.

Then he chose the religious side.

as in "sex and curse words are bad"

Maybe it happened at that bad ecstacy night?

Cancelling the black album etc.

I don't know! I'm just talking and thinking

[Edited 9/18/20 15:50pm]

The cussing and x-rated stuff got the most intense in the mid 90's, didn't it? Gold Experience tour, etc

Yeah maybe he changed his mind or got over it somehow. Untill it came back again.

I'm just curious about the huge focus on "purity", god or whatever you would call it.

Maybe Larry Graham got him back on that track.

Not a fan of that influence.

Just to point out..

I'm happy he evolved.

Maybe it's because I'm not american I bail at the purity religious stuff

RogerRoger said:

Forgive me for the provoking title.. but

Prince might have found a good clean glorious path that helped him personally in some ways.

Like when alcoholics find god by AA.

That's good and all.

But artistically it tanked and watered his artistic expression.

He stopped being dirty and honest, and instead was detached and focused on pure, innocent, praising the almighty.

And went against his old self.

A split.

I do miss the naughty dirty daring Prince.

I'm not sure there is a heaven or a god, besides raw nature itself.

"Animals strike curious poses"

He grew up. Or at least tried to.

Would you have rather seen Prince dressed scantily in lace with his ass out cussing like Madonna still does?

I disagree.

It didn't tank artistically or water his artistic expression.

How can you say that?

What did you want from him? A new Erotic City at age 45?

Naw.

What I love about Prince was that he was not afraid to do whatever he wanted.

Imagine being a multimillionaire in your 20's?

Most people would hang up the gloves.

Prince kept on fighting for whatever he believed in, even if it wasn't what you believe in.

Yes, I loved the perverted sex crazed years, but I also love his last 10 albums.

Could it possibly be that since you never found religion or God you couldn't relate?

Not accusing, just asking.

FanAllMyLife said:

It didn't tank artistically or water his artistic expression.

It did. He said bullshit like "what the duck". And he changed lyrics of old "nasty" songs like "23 scriptures in a one night stand...." or that awul "The Christ". It was horrible.

When was Prince not religious?

I think that Prince had an anti-social side that he referenced many times. He could be machiavellian and I don't think he was proud of it, but was not ready want to give it up.This is where his struggles were, IMO.

Nothing tanked Prince the artist, Prince the musician, Prince the singer, Prince the entertainer, Prince the man! He was who he was, and he did what he was blessed by God to do, and be whom God made him to be, and nothing tanked or stopped that.

Prince was a talented and special person and he struggled openly with some of his

not-so wonderful drives. He was often asking forgivness for veering off-path.

We are all works-in-progress spiritually/morally.

Shouldn't this be moved to the P&R section of the forum? Where it should have been posted to begin with.

I wasn't a big fan of those changes but it wasn't my journey.

It was Prince's journey and we were simply along 4 the ride.

He became about as well rounded an artist that there ever was in my opinon.

I'm glad I was there 4 the entire ride.

ludwig said:

FanAllMyLife said:

It didn't tank artistically or water his artistic expression.

It did. He said bullshit like "what the duck". And he changed lyrics of old "nasty" songs like "23 scriptures in a one night stand...." or that awul "The Christ". It was horrible.

what? What the hell? I mean, as graycap said, it was his journey but holy cow, that's cringey.

RJOrion said:

nothing "tanked" Prince...he had a long, illustrious, and prosperous career...end of non-fiction story.

I'm gonna co-sign to this. All in all, he did just fine. We're just obsessed, opinionated Prince fans who spend too much time thinking about Prince. Which is fine too

ThatWhiteDude said:

ludwig said:

It did. He said bullshit like "what the duck". And he changed lyrics of old "nasty" songs like "23 scriptures in a one night stand...." or that awul "The Christ". It was horrible.

what? What the hell? I mean, as graycap said, it was his journey but holy cow, that's cringey.

could have been worse and lonely with "23 scriptures in a one night rant...."

ThatWhiteDude said:

RogerRoger said:

Forgive me for the provoking title.. but

Prince might have found a good clean glorious path that helped him personally in some ways.

Like when alcoholics find god by AA.

That's good and all.

But artistically it tanked and watered his artistic expression.

He stopped being dirty and honest, and instead was detached and focused on pure, innocent, praising the almighty.

And went against his old self.

A split.

I do miss the naughty dirty daring Prince.

I'm not sure there is a heaven or a god, besides raw nature itself.

"Animals strike curious poses"

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Oh that?

Well you can call it getting older too.

It's just mere life going on, and he did it his way.

I'm not all into his mumbo jumbo stuff either.

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Don't forget that god is a mistake made by man, or man is a mistake by god...

I always get confused on that one (thank you Friederich).

All that is left is an enormous amount of released an unreleased music ánd a gazillion questions left unanswered.

And still quite a load of good old dirty shit to enjoy while getting positively mind-fucked.

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Margot said:

"All that is left is an enormous amount of released an unreleased music ánd a gazillion questions left unanswered.

And still quite a load of good old dirty shit to enjoy while getting positively mind-fucked." Vannormal (The Org)

I love it.

ThatWhiteDude said:

ludwig said:

It did. He said bullshit like "what the duck". And he changed lyrics of old "nasty" songs like "23 scriptures in a one night stand...." or that awul "The Christ". It was horrible.

what? What the hell? I mean, as graycap said, it was his journey but holy cow, that's cringey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhrlbDG7v4

There was always a carnal vs. spiritual dichotomy to Prince's work, it's just that the balance shifted later in his life. Even on the Rainbow Children he had the lyric "wet circles 'round the toy/while you bring yourself to joy" in "Mellow". His freak side was always there, but he became less of a rabid horndog as he aged and spiritual matters became more important. That happens to a lot of people as they get older.

Not to mention a 55 year old writing lyrics like "I came on your wedding gown" and "I sincerely wanna fuck the taste outta your mouth" is just as cringey as "23 scriptures in a one night stand".

tab32792 said:

ludwig said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

what? What the hell? I mean, as graycap said, it was his journey but holy cow, that's cringey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhrlbDG7v4

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Thanks to the wonderful world of the believers jh.

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Let me remind you all of the lovely dressed tea party women back in 1984.

They could not prevent Darling Niki from masturbating with a magazine,

but some uncomprhensable stories of believing in a god did.

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I also remember very well the live shows of the Lovesexy tour.

When he made us all sing, 'god is love, love is god, love god above'.

I was in Holland, and most people looked around like... wtf.

A bit awkward but fun.

Same happened during a show in Germany, and the one in Antwerp.

Seems that those Europeans back then though it was kind of 'funny' to sing along to.

But hey, it's Prince, and you just gowith the flow.

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