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Reply #60 posted 09/24/20 7:27pm

lust

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SquirrelMeat said:

Of course religion tanked Prince's potential.

Relegion tanks free thought by it's very nature. It is a method of fear and control.

The one that always stumps my friends of faith is, why is faith geographical?




It’s hard to argue with that.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #61 posted 09/24/20 9:33pm

Margot

He was experiencing ebbs and flows before he became a JW.TRC was one of his better albums, though

preachy

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Reply #62 posted 09/25/20 8:17am

yxl1

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Religion destroys everything

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Reply #63 posted 09/25/20 8:25am

Empress

lust said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Of course religion tanked Prince's potential.

Relegion tanks free thought by it's very nature. It is a method of fear and control.

The one that always stumps my friends of faith is, why is faith geographical?

It’s hard to argue with that.

Yes, it is. I agree with the statement from SquirrleMeat. I do however agree that everyone is entitled to change and grow and believe in anything they wish, but I think Prince's music became somewhat generic during the early 2000's because he was trying to believe in the JW doctorine.

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Reply #64 posted 09/25/20 8:26am

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Naw, His religious belief didn't do any of that in the 80s It actually accented what we all loved about Prince, and barely blinked at it.
I think were I sensed a problem later is when he seemed to try to make his symbol more a point of prrinceology. I think that is the difference between what we saw pre 1988 new breed vs the post 89(1999-) infusing of his religiosity into his symbol and npg

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1. God the Dance Electric

2. God the Love Theme

3. the Dance Electric

4. the Ladder

5. God Is Alive

6. Walking In Glory

7. the Cross
8. 1999

9. I Wish U Heaven

10. 4 The Tears In Your Eyes

11. I Would Die 4 U

13. Let's Go Crazy

14. Computer Blue

15. Anne Christian

16. Dance with the Devil
17. A Place In Heaven - neveaH nI ecalP A
18. Crystal Ball
19. 17 Days

20. When the Dawn of the Morning Comes

21. the backwards ending of Darling Nikki

22. Temptation

23. Heaven

24. Mountains

25. Love & Sex(1984)

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and all the songs throught 1981-1989 that he mixed his religious beliefs into

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Whatever you heard about me is true
I change the rules and do what I wanna do
I'm in love with God, he's the only way
'Cuz you and I know we gotta die some day
If you think I'm crazy, you're probably right
But I'm gonna have fun every motherfuckin' night
If you like 2 fight, you're a double-drag fool
I'm goin' 2 another life, how 'bout you?

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Reply #65 posted 09/25/20 10:45am

RJOrion

people dont have trouble with Prince becoming more "religious"...certain people have a problem with it because he didnt prescribe to THEIR spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof)..like a few people have mentioned, P was always putting his love and fear of God in our faces..you just danced and sang around it.. but then when he switches beliefs decades later and the music didnt appeal to SOME people as much, its somehow Larry Graham and the JWs fault...how 'bout maybe after giving you pure nonstop excellence from 1978- 1993, the brother just started finding it increasingly harder to come up with fresh new ideas in a fickle, shark infested business?...why blame a man's relationship with who he believes to be God, for what some people think is some kind of "tanking"?...theres people that make 2 albums and die by gunfire... Prince made over a FEW DOZEN albums, multiple movies, made millions, traveled the world, owned several valuable properties, at a very young age..how is that in ANY way "tanking"?... didnt he do enough?...didnt he exceed everyone else?...stop blaming someone elses religious beliefs for what YOU dont like... thats some diabolical, selfish shit
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Reply #66 posted 09/25/20 12:52pm

Margot

Prince was always a religious seeker and I find the twists and turns of his religious/spiritual journey quite compelling. It takes an expansive, curious spirit to examine everything from Egyptian religions to Eastern thought to JW and back again. On some levels he was very private but he lived his religious beliefs out loud and risked ridicule. Regarding his 'tanking', he experienced ebbs and flows like any creative. I wish he could have rested and slept more.

He took us on some wild spiritual/musical rides. I will never tire of trying to learn more about him.

"God" must have gotten a kick out of him, too.

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Reply #67 posted 09/25/20 1:05pm

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Tanked? BS! GTFOHWTBS!

Opinions man, not absolutes.

One person’s treasure is another’s junk.
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Reply #68 posted 09/25/20 1:17pm

RogerRoger

nosajd said:

Tanked? BS! GTFOHWTBS! Opinions man, not absolutes. One person’s treasure is another’s junk.

Everything is always someone's opinion or view.

I guess the internet makes it look like an absolute.

But do we really have to constantly say "that's just my opinion" after each sentence to avoid anyone getting "offended"?

Drugs are bad! (in my opinion) wink

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Reply #69 posted 09/25/20 2:34pm

looby

yxl1 said:

Religion destroys everything

Nonsense.

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Reply #70 posted 09/25/20 2:57pm

RogerRoger

looby said:

yxl1 said:

Religion destroys everything

Nonsense.

Many people flee their own responsibility and escape into some "god".

It's easy and convenient and liberating (like drugs).

But not very conscious or constructive, often it's destructive and blind.

[Edited 9/25/20 15:04pm]

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Reply #71 posted 09/25/20 3:11pm

Margot

RogerRoger said:

looby said:

Nonsense.

Many people flee their own responsibility and escape into some "god".

It's easy and convenient and liberating (like drugs).

But not very conscious or constructive, often it's destructive and blind.

[Edited 9/25/20 15:04pm]

There are many well-adjusted, intelligent, successful people who are spiritual/religious.

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Reply #72 posted 09/25/20 3:20pm

RogerRoger

Margot said:

RogerRoger said:

Many people flee their own responsibility and escape into some "god".

It's easy and convenient and liberating (like drugs).

But not very conscious or constructive, often it's destructive and blind.

[Edited 9/25/20 15:04pm]

There are many well-adjusted, intelligent, successful people who are spiritual/religious.

Absolutely!

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Reply #73 posted 09/25/20 3:32pm

iamafan

I think Prince always had a spiritual side, and I don’t think JW is too far off from the 7th Day Adventist he was raised with (if I’m remembering correctly). I think Larry Graham swooped in during a time of tragedy and it possibly forced Prince to fiercely hide his addictions. (Harder to get help given the image he created and the perceived judgment from the church.)

I missed his “younger self” on later tours but still an excellent performance. If his career waned at all, I think it was from many different factors, and no musician is number one forever.
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Reply #74 posted 10/06/20 10:49am

OldFriends4Sal
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Precious Lord at the ending of The Line tanked that song for me, I don't think it was needed lol

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