RJOrion said:

"...i didnt get involved in his personal affairs or his business affairs, for that matter..." ~ Susan Rogers - Episode 5 meanwhile she spends her entire adult life (including immediately after saying that) getting clout and money talking about Prince's personal and business affairs...where do the lies end and where does the truth begin?... let Lenny Waronker talk more, and lets be done with Fred Rogers' twin sister

Money and clout? Fool. She's making more money teaching than she gets from doing interviews. Typically, one does not get paid to do interviews. Clout? What clout? No one knows who she is aside from a tiny handfull of hardcore fans. She speaks the truth which rubs your fantasies about Prince the wrong way. He wasn't magic. Get over it.

Very interesting,indeed.I have always felt that Warners were right.Trimimg it down to a 2-LP set made alot of sense.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

I thought the story about Crystal Ball was really interesting, and I loved Lenny’s recount. I’m surprised Prince didn’t fight for it. Maybe he agreed it would be better if he shortened it. Or maybe he just really respected Lenny’s opinion.

Yay another episode! I love this series!

steakfinger said:

Wow just reminds how amazing Camille is! Should have been released. It would have been one of the greatest Prince albums. As we as now in reissues and collectabilles, I think even Edith super deluxe we could still use a Camille album.

I would certainly pay good money for a vinyl pressing!

udo said:

Ramzoo said:

Interesting that the engineer confirmed that Prince liked French sparkling water Perrier (mentioned in the song "Yah, You Know" and seen on the console in the picture below).

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Which magazine is on the console and who is the model?

For Real! Looks like the real Inspiration to "Mountains"!

steakfinger said:

LoveGalore said:

steakfinger said:

Money and clout? Fool. She's making more money teaching than she gets from doing interviews. Typically, one does not get paid to do interviews. Clout? What clout? No one knows who she is aside from a tiny handfull of hardcore fans. She speaks the truth which rubs your fantasies about Prince the wrong way. He wasn't magic. Get over it.

Nah he was pretty magic. As we see from both SDEs, he didn't need anyone else in there. But it was very kind of him to share his world with folks. Sad to say that it pretty much always boiled down, in his mind, to them being opportunistic. Susan should probably curb the armchair psychology. His first and last love was the music - not her friend Susannah. Sorry babes!

Susan may or may not be wrong about what he did or did not love, but in fairness to her she has a doctorate in psychology so i'll allow her the "armchair" psychology.

jaawwnn said:

the placement of the Camille character as a she doesn't really fit for me and feels forced from a 2020 point of view of culture.

I always feel that Camille is a man character Who is used as 3rd person to connect to all kind of issues of plain love and lust to the woman or Women he is related. There is a feminine side to it but more as interfacing Prince his unspoken feeling to Someone who was to close by.

LoveGalore said:

jaawwnn said:

Susan may or may not be wrong about what he did or did not love, but in fairness to her she has a doctorate in psychology so i'll allow her the "armchair" psychology.

Um, Susan Rogers is not a psychologist. Her doctorate is in music cognition and psychoacoustics. Furthermore, Prince isn't and wasn't her patient. His life wasn't falling apart. He just had a #1 record. He did fire his band for hitting him up for money. He did lose one of his girlfriends. But to characterize the period as being miserable is a bit over the top. If we are guessing here, which we all are - even Susan, it would appear the assumption that prince should've been writing dirges about how lonely and broken he was is wrong. And his feelings are on tape. She wanted some outpouring of songs about the breakups and evidently prince realized he could still record at the top of his game without the band and his 12 other girlfriends would somehow have to keep him company through losing his fiancee.

Thank you for your input, I'll add it to the pile.

I'm barely even joking. If someone makes a coherent argument, whether it's Susan Rogers or you, i'll find it interesting no matter what the conclusion

Double.

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jaawwnn said:

RJOrion said:

did Prince know that Susan Rogers was his pshychiatrist and guidance counselor?...i thought he hired her to connect wires and push buttons...she's so presumptuous and obnoxious, and arrogant...with her fake accent [Edited 9/24/20 5:06am]

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udo said:

Ramzoo said:

Interesting that the engineer confirmed that Prince liked French sparkling water Perrier (mentioned in the song "Yah, You Know" and seen on the console in the picture below).

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Which magazine is on the console and who is the model?

That's Patricia Farinelli, of course. The magazine with the rabbit. Incredible with all his using up of his talents, Prince had more to give. Lots of people in his inner circle have said he'd have been an ace comic actor (given the right material). This picture is hilarious.

summerafternoon said:

udo said:

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Which magazine is on the console and who is the model?

That's Patricia Farinelli, of course. The magazine with the rabbit. Incredible with all his using up of his talents, Prince had more to give. Lots of people in his inner circle have said he'd have been an ace comic actor (given the right material). This picture is hilarious.

Lol, I was about to ask (it reminded me of Vanity). How did you know this info?

ufoclub said:

summerafternoon said:

That's Patricia Farinelli, of course. The magazine with the rabbit. Incredible with all his using up of his talents, Prince had more to give. Lots of people in his inner circle have said he'd have been an ace comic actor (given the right material). This picture is hilarious.

Lol, I was about to ask (it reminded me of Vanity). How did you know this info?

We talked about the magazine in this thread: https://prince.org/msg/7/458995

all these years, and all the times ive seen that picture, and i NEVER once before noticed the titties...WTF?

GirlBrother said:

Whenever I hear Susan Rogers' voice, I see Lamb Chop in my head - the puppet from the 1970s. Rogers kind of sounds like Shari Lewis. I have nothing more to add to this thread.

Susan ROGERS definitely does sound like a sock puppet character from the childrens TV show MisterROGERS ... her vocal tone and delivery is like that of a pre-kindegarten teacher... so sweet and soothing and comforting... with that said, i would love to hear her sing a Joni Mitchell song, or even"Crazy You" by Prince... and i bet she sounds amazing during lovemaking

RJOrion said:

RJOrion said:

AvocadosMax said:

There’s no indication that Camille is Prince’s ‘female’ side.

Or, as Prince published, in the Lovesexy tourbook;

Time upon a once
There was a boy named Camille

And then constantly used the pronouns 'he/him/his'. There is no denying Prince was in touch with his feminine side, but it seems he viewed his Camille character as male.

RJOrion said:

GirlBrother said:

Whenever I hear Susan Rogers' voice, I see Lamb Chop in my head - the puppet from the 1970s. Rogers kind of sounds like Shari Lewis. I have nothing more to add to this thread.

Susan ROGERS definitely does sound like a sock puppet character from the childrens TV show MisterROGERS ... her vocal tone and delivery is like that of a pre-kindegarten teacher... so sweet and soothing and comforting... with that said, i would love to hear her sing a Joni Mitchell song, or even"Crazy You" by Prince... and i bet she sounds amazing during lovemaking

Such an angry, angry man. When was it? That moment you decided you hated the world...

Another stellar episode. THANK YOU Susan Rogers and the rest. Your contribution, insight, and expertise seems to have proved invaluable in the making of this album. You were there. We weren't...so thank you for sharing your stories.

I'm surprised Wendy & Lisa didn't chime in this time, adding the incident where Prince was expecting a camel to be delivered to freezing Minneapolis at 3 'o clock in the morning. Ah maybe next time

RighteousOne said:

RJOrion said:

RighteousOne said:

Such an angry, angry man. When was it? That moment you decided you hated the world...

you really seem to have a reading comprehension problem ... im clearly intrigued and dare i say slightly aroused by the loving sounds of Susan Rogers' voice...what part of hate and anger is that?...ill play along until the game comes on...by the way have you heard 7 MinutesMoQuake yet?...its amazing...send suzan my love, Champ

The rest of the community is rejoicing this weekend, loving the box set, generally having fun listening to perhaps his best album. What are you doing? Scratching around in your little hole, spewing out your angry, inceasing racism and sexism. Be gone, you thing of pity.

fortuneandserendipity said:

I'm surprised Wendy & Lisa didn't chime in this time, adding the incident where Prince was expecting a camel to be delivered to freezing Minneapolis at 3 'o clock in the morning. Ah maybe next time

Maybe...

alright these threads went from obnoxious to toxic to straight up disturbing so i'll head on out