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Thread started 04/08/19 1:06am

Mikado

This photo of Prince & Morris....

This was taken in the early 90s circa Diamonds & Pearls, right? Prince looks like he's posing as "Jamie Starr", but it's interesting he's holding a mostly smoked cigarette, since he apparently had a great disdain for them and fired roadies for smelling like an ashtray.


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[Edited 4/8/19 1:08am]

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Reply #1 posted 04/08/19 1:17am

SimonCharles

I am convinced this is not Prince - it may very well be Prince, there may very well be a host of witnesses who can testify this is Prince, there may very well be a sworn affidavit from Prince confirming this is, indeed, Prince, but this looks like the worst faked photo of the pair ever. To my eyes...and I have no reason to think this other than that, to me, in this photo "Prince" looks the wrong shape...this is not Morris and Prince.

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Reply #2 posted 04/08/19 3:45am

feeluupp

It's a photo of Morris & Jamie Starr lol

As captioned a few years ago when this picture was released and made the rounds on the web.

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Reply #3 posted 04/08/19 3:46am

feeluupp

No this was taken in 1982.

Mikado said:

This was taken in the early 90s circa Diamonds & Pearls, right? Prince looks like he's posing as "Jamie Starr", but it's interesting he's holding a mostly smoked cigarette, since he apparently had a great disdain for them and fired roadies for smelling like an ashtray.


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Reply #4 posted 04/08/19 4:25am

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SimonCharles said:

I am convinced this is not Prince - it may very well be Prince, there may very well be a host of witnesses who can testify this is Prince, there may very well be a sworn affidavit from Prince confirming this is, indeed, Prince, but this looks like the worst faked photo of the pair ever. To my eyes...and I have no reason to think this other than that, to me, in this photo "Prince" looks the wrong shape...this is not Morris and Prince.

It was widely circulated and stated it was Morris and Prince/Jamie Starr but I've also doubted it is actually Prince.

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The cigarette and ashtray, the suit, the goatee (could be fake of course) make me wonder. Of course he could be dressed/made up differently if he was playing the Jamie Starr persona to the max.

[Edited 4/8/19 4:51am]

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Reply #5 posted 04/08/19 5:12am

JorisE73

Here's another one with the goatee or as Jamie Starr and Roger:

Prince & Roger

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Reply #6 posted 04/08/19 6:23am

SimonCharles

dodger said:

SimonCharles said:

I am convinced this is not Prince - it may very well be Prince, there may very well be a host of witnesses who can testify this is Prince, there may very well be a sworn affidavit from Prince confirming this is, indeed, Prince, but this looks like the worst faked photo of the pair ever. To my eyes...and I have no reason to think this other than that, to me, in this photo "Prince" looks the wrong shape...this is not Morris and Prince.

It was widely circulated and stated it was Morris and Prince/Jamie Starr but I've also doubted it is actually Prince.

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The cigarette and ashtray, the suit, the goatee (could be fake of course) make me wonder. Of course he could be dressed/made up differently if he was playing the Jamie Starr persona to the max.

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The shape of the face doesn't look like Prince - it may be the angle, of course. Anyhoo...if it is it is, if it isn't it isn't...it's not in my top five of Prince pics, that's for sure.

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Reply #7 posted 04/08/19 6:38am

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SimonCharles said:

dodger said:

It was widely circulated and stated it was Morris and Prince/Jamie Starr but I've also doubted it is actually Prince.

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The cigarette and ashtray, the suit, the goatee (could be fake of course) make me wonder. Of course he could be dressed/made up differently if he was playing the Jamie Starr persona to the max.

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The shape of the face doesn't look like Prince - it may be the angle, of course. Anyhoo...if it is it is, if it isn't it isn't...it's not in my top five of Prince pics, that's for sure.

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It is definitely Prince and Morris.

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Reply #8 posted 04/08/19 7:17am

Vannormal

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Real or not.

what I love about this great and hilarious pic are 'the details' !!!

check it out :

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In front of Morris, an erotic magazine with a centerfold of a big breasted girl having the looks of Vanity (it's not her). The phone above his right ear (behind him) like it's sticking on his head,

That bottle of ketchup ? and a small bottle of Perrier water at Morris's side ? (Or are these ingredients for a 'bloody mary' ?)

Morris even having two dark fillings in his lower back teeth (...)

The dollars, the clearly visible Marlboro cigarettes package, the ash tray, Prince (if it's him) smoking

Plus, has Prince a dangling pair of knickers or bikini on the back of his chair ?

And it looks like he has a dollar bill in his jacket pocket...

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I think this picture is genuin.

Prince's hands look like that.

Morris looks pretty real too...

But i could be wrong. smile

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Reply #9 posted 04/08/19 8:02am

leecaldon

When I last saw Morris live, this pic was projected on to the screen on stage.

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Reply #10 posted 04/08/19 8:06am

SimonCharles

Kares said:

SimonCharles said:

The shape of the face doesn't look like Prince - it may be the angle, of course. Anyhoo...if it is it is, if it isn't it isn't...it's not in my top five of Prince pics, that's for sure.

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It is definitely Prince and Morris.

I know...but is it? Who took this picture? Hang on, I'm going to go and google before I get shouted at.

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Reply #11 posted 04/08/19 8:07am

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Vannormal said:

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Real or not.

what I love about this great and hilarious pic are 'the details' !!!

check it out :

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In front of Morris, an erotic magazine with a centerfold of a big breasted girl having the looks of Vanity (it's not her). The phone above his right ear (behind him) like it's sticking on his head,

That bottle of ketchup ? and a small bottle of Perrier water at Morris's side ? (Or are these ingredients for a 'bloody mary' ?)

Morris even having two dark fillings in his lower back teeth (...)

The dollars, the clearly visible Marlboro cigarettes package, the ash tray, Prince (if it's him) smoking

Plus, has Prince a dangling pair of knickers or bikini on the back of his chair ?

And it looks like he has a dollar bill in his jacket pocket...

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I think this picture is genuin.

Prince's hands look like that.

Morris looks pretty real too...

But i could be wrong. smile

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Wow, good eye on the details.

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Reply #12 posted 04/08/19 8:26am

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Mikado said:

This was taken in the early 90s circa Diamonds & Pearls, right? Prince looks like he's posing as "Jamie Starr", but it's interesting he's holding a mostly smoked cigarette, since he apparently had a great disdain for them and fired roadies for smelling like an ashtray.


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Definitely NOT from the 90s. This pic is early 80s. Morris Day did not look like this (his hair) in the 90's. Prince is dressed differently because this is Jamie Starr....meaning, different clothes and hairstyle.

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Reply #13 posted 04/08/19 8:30am

SimonCharles

skywalker said:

Mikado said:

This was taken in the early 90s circa Diamonds & Pearls, right? Prince looks like he's posing as "Jamie Starr", but it's interesting he's holding a mostly smoked cigarette, since he apparently had a great disdain for them and fired roadies for smelling like an ashtray.


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Definitely NOT from the 90s. This pic is early 80s. Morris Day did not look like this (his hair) in the 90's. Prince is dressed differently because this is Jamie Starr....meaning, different clothes and hairstyle.

Do you know who took it? I can get as far as it being a picture from Billboard but no names attached.

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Reply #14 posted 04/08/19 9:23am

OldFriends4Sal
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This feels too much like Prince & Morris post 1984. Morris style here is how he was dressed post Prince on his 2 albums photoshoots. And Prince had the goatee in 1989-1990 not 1982

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Reply #15 posted 04/08/19 9:24am

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SimonCharles said:

I am convinced this is not Prince - it may very well be Prince, there may very well be a host of witnesses who can testify this is Prince, there may very well be a sworn affidavit from Prince confirming this is, indeed, Prince, but this looks like the worst faked photo of the pair ever. To my eyes...and I have no reason to think this other than that, to me, in this photo "Prince" looks the wrong shape...this is not Morris and Prince.

I can always tell Prince by his chest hair. That's him. cool

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Reply #16 posted 04/08/19 9:38am

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The 90s? BWWWHAHAHAHA On what planet?! What about any of that indicates it's from the 90s?????? You can tell by Morris's younger face alone it's about 10 years before your assumption.

One cannot be so dim to think Prince is smoking. He never even wore that many rings on the regular. It's called... wait for it... a prop. I would more think it's either an engineer's pack of Marlboros or Morris's (didn't he smoke? anyone?)


There are a million fucking things in that pic to show it's Prince as Jamie Starr. His body shape, his chest hair, his teeth, the hairline, his thinner arm/wrist.

That ain't "Jamie" with Roger, IMO. Nothing about that says he's in character.

Also - while it's probably not a bottle of ketchup on the left, it sure looks like it. hahaha WTF is that taller bottle with the white cap?

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Reply #17 posted 04/08/19 9:38am

Mikado

Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/19 9:43am

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Mikado said:

Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.


That's not the typhoon hair. You can believe a lie, or believe people that have seen the photo and know how it's been authenticated and documented. Or you can accept the truth.

Prince has been hot ironing his hair since God knows when so to think because you see some curling iron rolls up top that it's the 90s it just short-sighted and not well thought out.

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Reply #19 posted 04/08/19 9:52am

feeluupp

Mikado said:

Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.

It's from 1982. There was a thread about this photo 1-2 years ago here on the Org.

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Reply #20 posted 04/08/19 10:03am

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Mikado said:

Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.

I don't think it is early 90s. More closely to late 80s

I'm thinking Corporate World - Pandemonium sessions

looks like 89-90 Nude tour Prince

look @ Prince's facial hairs everyone. We never ever saw that pre 1987

the hair presentation is that Lovesexy - Nude tour/GB style

Morris was wearing a lot of polka dot ties in the latter 80s, never saw him with them in 1981-1984

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Reply #21 posted 04/08/19 10:09am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Mikado said:

Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.

I don't think it is early 90s. More closely to late 80s

I'm thinking Corporate World - Pandemonium sessions

looks like 89-90 Nude tour Prince


Nah, it's the early 80s. Prince had long straight hair from 1988-1991. There's no reason he'd have had curls for some random picture during this time. Plus, Morris looks so much younger here than he did around 1990 (not that he looked terribly old, but we all change with time - and drugs). Everything about it screams 1982, as noted throughout the Org. Also, the thin untied necktie that Prince has on reeks of practically the same thing Morris wore in Purple Rain, and all of us were wearing in the early to mid-80s (present company included).

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Reply #22 posted 04/08/19 10:13am

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Reply #23 posted 04/08/19 10:27am

Mikado

OldFriends4Sale said:



Mikado said:


Thanks for the info and expository everyone. I'm still pretty sure this has to be from the early 90s based on Prince's Typhoon hair.


I don't think it is early 90s. More closely to late 80s



I'm thinking Corporate World - Pandemonium sessions



looks like 89-90 Nude tour Prince


look @ Prince's facial hairs everyone. We never ever saw that pre 1987



the hair presentation is that Lovesexy - Nude tour/GB style



Morris was wearing a lot of polka dot ties in the latter 80s, never saw him with them in 1981-1984



Thanks - that would make sense. I just don't see how that could be 1982 based on his hair. He just didn't have that kind of volume then.
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/19 10:30am

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TrivialPursuit said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think it is early 90s. More closely to late 80s

I'm thinking Corporate World - Pandemonium sessions

looks like 89-90 Nude tour Prince


Nah, it's the early 80s. Prince had long straight hair from 1988-1991. There's no reason he'd have had curls for some random picture during this time. Plus, Morris looks so much younger here than he did around 1990 (not that he looked terribly old, but we all change with time - and drugs). Everything about it screams 1982, as noted throughout the Org. Also, the thin untied necktie that Prince has on reeks of practically the same thing Morris wore in Purple Rain, and all of us were wearing in the early to mid-80s (present company included).

Look at his SOTT/Lovesexy photos, his hair is clearly using 'rollers' or something to get those big curls. The hair curl in this photo is more like the 1987-1990 look.

His hair was nver like that in the early 80s. 81-83. Do we know who photographed this? Allen was the primarily exclusive photographer for Prince during that time period.

Not to mention I've never seen any photos of Prince pre-1987 with a goattee

I mean Morris did start working (studio) with Prince again by late 87 into 1988

I'm open to being wrong.
But do we know who the photographer was?

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Reply #25 posted 04/08/19 10:48am

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The magazine centerfold open in the photo is from the December 1981 issue of Playboy. Maybe that's a clue to when this photo was taken.

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Reply #26 posted 04/08/19 10:49am

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Mikado said:

This was taken in the early 90s circa Diamonds & Pearls, right? Prince looks like he's posing as "Jamie Starr", but it's interesting he's holding a mostly smoked cigarette, since he apparently had a great disdain for them and fired roadies for smelling like an ashtray.


rs-morris-day-v6-6c3ac540-042f-4135-8b0a-a6b1b4ce5656.jpg

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looks close to this late 1990

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Reply #27 posted 04/08/19 10:50am

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sexton said:

The magazine centerfold open in the photo is from the December 1981 issue of Playboy. Maybe that's a clue to when this photo was taken.

wow where do you see that?

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But the date of the mag doesn't mean that is the same date of the photo

Again the goattee and the hair type from Prince is visually pushing late 80s for me still

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Reply #28 posted 04/08/19 10:54am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

sexton said:

The magazine centerfold open in the photo is from the December 1981 issue of Playboy. Maybe that's a clue to when this photo was taken.

wow where do you see that?


Google Playboy playmate Patricia Farinelli and you will see that photo from the December 1981 issue.

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Reply #29 posted 04/08/19 10:55am

SimonCharles

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SimonCharles said:

I am convinced this is not Prince - it may very well be Prince, there may very well be a host of witnesses who can testify this is Prince, there may very well be a sworn affidavit from Prince confirming this is, indeed, Prince, but this looks like the worst faked photo of the pair ever. To my eyes...and I have no reason to think this other than that, to me, in this photo "Prince" looks the wrong shape...this is not Morris and Prince.

I can always tell Prince by his chest hair. That's him. cool

That's oddly specific, but ok. lol

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