lurker316 said:

This morning I was notified by Amazon that my expected delivery date is 9/29. One the one hand that's not terrible (their delay for 1999 SDE was two weeks). But on the other hand, I don't understand why I need to wait even four days. I ordered the set the day it was announced, so I should be at the top of the queue, and I have Prime. I want it on the day it's released.

I guess this means I'll be driving around to Barnes and Nobles on the 25th trying to find a copy and then cancelling my Amazon order (which is what I did with 1999 SDE).

I called Amazon a few minutes ago about this.

I have ordered from Amazon since day one and never had a problem until the 1999 Deluxe. Now they said it wouldn't be shipped until the 29th but YouTube videos will be all over the place with people unboxing this.

Last time I'm buying from them.

Tora said:

databank said:

My understanding is that P thought the album in terms of vinyl (perhaps his last album conceived this way?), so following this logic it should be 1 CD per side, Besides, the dominant format is streaming now, so not sure what difference it makes.

I guess some of us wish it was eirher condensed to 1 CD so the boxset could accommodate even more unrealeased material or perhaps a have a price reduction instead.

It's not really the sense of my remark, because I'd assume the manufacturing cost of an individual CD must be less than a dollar. Clearly, the CD itself is not what you pay for when you pay for CDs. It's just that, well, IDK, if it fits one one CD why put it on 2. I wouldn't put CB98 on 2 CDs as some have suggested because it'd mean cutting CD2 in the middle and this isn't cool. But in that case either you make 4 CD's to reproduce the LP experience, or one CD. Again, it's not important, I'm just wondering.

The 2 CD thing is probably just because that is how the original album was presented when it was released back in the day on CD and for continuity purposes did it the same way. I can't think of any examples where there was a double album released on CD later released in a disk layout that wasn't verbatim to the original (with the exception of bonus tracks tacked onto the end of disk 2)

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

I wish the 86 version of cant stop this feeling I got and we can funk were on this [Edited 9/17/20 15:45pm]

Me too specially We Can Funk

I'm so excited for this

I enjoyed the 1999 SD but I've always been looking forward to them doing this specific album. I feel like I'll be revisiting every part of this project whether it's the remastered album, extended edits, vault material or the dvd. Also the book looks pretty great too.

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Some thoughts on released singles:

Yes to both Witness's except #2 gets the most listens

Cosmic Day peeved me at first but it's catchy and the guitar solos are fantastic.

[SNIP]

[Edited 9/18/20 0:01am]

themanfromneptune said:

AvocadosMax said:

So where the fuck are these tracks gonna go??: Girl O My Dreams Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got We Can Funk Data Bank Splash #1 & #2 Remasters of Dream Factory, Movie Star and the rest from 98 Crystal Ball Old Friends 4 Sale And many others... Is there gonna be a Parade Deluxe?? Will they actually release a Dream Factory or Crystal Ball in the future?? I just hope they have these planned for any future release and they’re not totally off the table...

Hi AvocadosMax.

My best guess...
Girl O My Dreams Graffiti Bridge Super Deluxe
Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got Graffiti Bridge Super Deluxe
We Can Funk Graffiti Bridge Super Deluxe
Data Bank Graffiti Bridge Super Deluxe
Splash #1 & #2 Up to Sony. I wouldn't hold your breath

Remasters of Dream Factory, Movie Star and the rest from 98 Crystal Ball Unfortunately your best option is to open up your favourite sound editing software (and if you don't have any Audacity is free) and turn those suckers down.

Old Friends 4 Sale Parade Super Deluxe
And many others...
Is there gonna be a Parade Deluxe?? Should be next year, fingers crossed.
Will they actually release a Dream Factory or Crystal Ball in the future?? Not bloody likely

AvocadosMax said:

Will they actually release a Dream Factory or Crystal Ball in the future??

There's been so much enthusiasm for SOTT:SD that is we pushed for limited runs of Dream Factory, Camille or Crystal Ball (just like they did with the 7inch singles set) there's a chance we might actually convince the estate to do it.

Unfortunately SOTT:SD is so good that any attempt to push for it is just going to make the fan base look ungrateful. I don't want the estate to think that we'll never be satisfied regardless of what they release.

To further complicate things it'll probably require cooperation from both WB and Sony as I'm guessing they'll both have distribution rights to some of the tracks. Mainly Sony, but WB may retain the rights to some of the vault stuff that appears on SOTT:SD. That's a complicated mess, but still, where there is money to be made?

AvocadosMax said:

So where the fuck are these tracks gonna go??: Girl O My Dreams Can’t Stop This Feeling I Got We Can Funk Data Bank Splash #1 & #2 Remasters of Dream Factory, Movie Star and the rest from 98 Crystal Ball Old Friends 4 Sale And many others... Is there gonna be a Parade Deluxe?? Will they actually release a Dream Factory or Crystal Ball in the future?? I just hope they have these planned for any future release and they’re not totally off the table...

girl o my dreams, cant stop, we can funk, data bank, old friends for sale, movie star, will prob go on the parade SDE. they are really SOTT era tracks, but could be included as a kind of 'last songs the revolution did together' package. who knows. seeing as wonderful ass which most people thought of as a SOTT era song went on the purple rain DE, this seems most likely. im sure there would be a parade SDE.

VaultCurator said:

AvocadosMax said:

VaultCurator said:

Unfortunately SOTT:SD is so good that any attempt to push for it is just going to make the fan base look ungrateful. I don't want the estate to think that we'll never be satisfied regardless of what they release.

True. But the fans will never be 100% satisfied until they release Extraloveable and Lust U Always... I hate to be that guy that keeps bringing that up, but when i think of ‘satisfied,’ that’ll do it. If they actually ever care about ‘the completionists’ instead of using that term as a talking point to explain their questionable decisions and then throwing that term out the window whenever they think they need to save their asses

YES - THIS! EL and LUA!!!!

VaultCurator said:

AvocadosMax said:

Will they actually release a Dream Factory or Crystal Ball in the future??

There's been so much enthusiasm for SOTT:SD that is we pushed for limited runs of Dream Factory, Camille or Crystal Ball (just like they did with the 7inch singles set) there's a chance we might actually convince the estate to do it.

Unfortunately SOTT:SD is so good that any attempt to push for it is just going to make the fan base look ungrateful. I don't want the estate to think that we'll never be satisfied regardless of what they release.

To further complicate things it'll probably require cooperation from both WB and Sony as I'm guessing they'll both have distribution rights to some of the tracks. Mainly Sony, but WB may retain the rights to some of the vault stuff that appears on SOTT:SD. That's a complicated mess, but still, where there is money to be made?

I'm satisfied with each release but my thirst for more will never be satisfied.

AvocadosMax said:

VaultCurator said:

Unfortunately SOTT:SD is so good that any attempt to push for it is just going to make the fan base look ungrateful. I don't want the estate to think that we'll never be satisfied regardless of what they release.

True. But the fans will never be 100% satisfied until they release Extraloveable and Lust U Always... I hate to be that guy that keeps bringing that up, but when i think of ‘satisfied,’ that’ll do it. If they actually ever care about ‘the completionists’ instead of using that term as a talking point to explain their questionable decisions and then throwing that term out the window whenever they think they need to save their asses

I don't wish to take the subject off topic, but you are absolutely right. I can't believe more people weren't upset at the reality that two of Prince's studio recordings have been memory holed. Having said that, I'll stop there for fear of peeling off that particular scab off again.

AvocadosMax said:

i feel like there was something in that interview that sounded like there is more to the wally story than we are being told and if so then perhaps it is mapped out for future projects with some of the obvious choices that have been excluded .. i dont care for vinyl but even i would be tempted with a crystal ball vinyl set with the original seagues .. or the flesh .. the original wally as a stand alone single would get me ... or maybe this really is the best they could find and everything else is non existant for whatever reasons .. i like to think they are still holding out some stuff to keep us coming back for more

TrevorAyer said:

i feel like there was something in that interview that sounded like there is more to the wally story than we are being told and if so then perhaps it is mapped out for future projects with some of the obvious choices that have been excluded .. i dont care for vinyl but even i would be tempted with a crystal ball vinyl set with the original seagues .. or the flesh .. the original wally as a stand alone single would get me ... or maybe this really is the best they could find and everything else is non existant for whatever reasons .. i like to think they are still holding out some stuff to keep us coming back for more

i have no doubt that Howe lied about "not having found" the wally #1 and in some years they're going to make a massive deal about it and pretend they found the cassette tape, along with some crazy story of biblical proportions

[Edited 9/18/20 13:06pm]

If the super deluxe sells real well, that is an incredible metric for them to want to release a Crystal Ball or Dream Factory set some day. The kind of person who is going to pay $150 to $300 for a SDE is definitely an addict who would buy those.

i will say, having created a playlist of DF and CB, we really do still need those as their own mastered projects. The Nevaeh on the SDE is most certainly not the one intended for DF, and the missing segues between Rebirth/Sunshine and The Ball/Joy, not to mention the subtle additions to Movie Star, among others, all make me feel Prince put a lot of thought into the flow of these epic works. That's why I'm treating the SDE vault discs as their own experiences on their own, which are seriously satisfying as is. So, no complaints, but someday, it will be a joy to experience a mastered CB and DF.

lustmealways said:

lustmealways said:

TrevorAyer said:

i feel like there was something in that interview that sounded like there is more to the wally story than we are being told and if so then perhaps it is mapped out for future projects with some of the obvious choices that have been excluded .. i dont care for vinyl but even i would be tempted with a crystal ball vinyl set with the original seagues .. or the flesh .. the original wally as a stand alone single would get me ... or maybe this really is the best they could find and everything else is non existant for whatever reasons .. i like to think they are still holding out some stuff to keep us coming back for more

i have no doubt that Howe lied about "not having found" the wally #1 and in some years they're going to make a massive deal about it and pretend they found the cassette tape, along with some crazy story of biblical proportions

[Edited 9/18/20 13:06pm]

This is what i think too !

love2thenines2003 said:

lustmealways said:

i have no doubt that Howe lied about "not having found" the wally #1 and in some years they're going to make a massive deal about it and pretend they found the cassette tape, along with some crazy story of biblical proportions

[Edited 9/18/20 13:06pm]

This is what i think too !

Wait, so are we completely disregarding Sewzan Rawjerz proclamation that the first version was destroyed?!?! So now she's a liar too? Wondering why we can't ever just believe shit when credible people who were there say it???

ThirdStrike said:

Wait, so are we completely disregarding Sewzan Rawjerz proclamation that the first version was destroyed?!?! So now she's a liar too? Wondering why we can't ever just believe shit when credible people who were there say it???

hasn't she gone back and forth on if there was a cassette mixdown made prior to the destruction of the multis

love2thenines2003 said:

lustmealways said:

i have no doubt that Howe lied about "not having found" the wally #1 and in some years they're going to make a massive deal about it and pretend they found the cassette tape, along with some crazy story of biblical proportions

[Edited 9/18/20 13:06pm]

This is what i think too !

I have little to no trust in Mr. Howe's word since he's been caught lying to us on several occasions, but I fail to understand the kind of reasoning that leads someone to assume there's a lie when there is in fact no evidence of a lie. There could be a lie, but why should the default reasoning be to assume there is one?

As for Sewzan Rawjerz and the cassette mixdown, I'm totally confused when it comes to what did or did not happen.

lustmealways said:

ThirdStrike said:

Wait, so are we completely disregarding Sewzan Rawjerz proclamation that the first version was destroyed?!?! So now she's a liar too? Wondering why we can't ever just believe shit when credible people who were there say it???

hasn't she gone back and forth on if there was a cassette mixdown made prior to the destruction of the multis

Then, if so, EVERYBODY will be in here...bitching about it being sourced from a cassette. Can't we just be excited about the version we're going to be getting in a week?

while i would love releases of DF and CB, i cant see the point at this point. people wouldnt buy it for anything other than the packaging, and as CB never had official artwork, and DF only had tentative art, it would be a made up release. plus, so many of the songs are just the same as on the proper SOTT album, so there would be little point. nevr mind that most of those unreleased songs are now on the SOTT SDE.

i would like the camille album though - it would be cheap to produce as its a single disc album. and it has more of a coherent aesthetic/theme/sound to it too, compared to the other releases. never been sure if it had artwork though.