i was listening to 2015 Louisville recording and

during the song 1999

i noticed that keyboard player dont know how to play 1999 synth riff.

Keyboardist in question was Josh .In the past Prince was fining

his band members for every single mistake,but in 2015 you hear

Prince perform his big hit song

with a synth riff played incorrect.

Did Prince loosen up at the end regarding his tight band leadership?

yes he got soft and complacent in old age because he had lost his fire..it happens to everyone...he was just cashing in on the million dollar shows and thats ok . he deserved it!

funkman88 said:

He was also trying new arrangements around that time with the older hits and using bands knowing not everyone in the group could play the music and he gave into that presumably to give them space to make something within their limitations.

He'd done that before, but with trained skilled musicians so it seemed like more of a choice then what probably happened which was probably closer to sink or swim. No idea why he didn't just put 1999 in the sample set though.

I find out more and more, that as you age, things that used to be a big deal to you, aren't that much of big deal anymore, maybe Prince was at that point in his life as well.

That fine thing is a joke, it has been confirmed by Eric Leeds and Susan Rogers,
who spent enough time in the studio to know what they're talking about.
The only dollars he took from his musicians were for the "No Swear" Cookie Jar.

AvocadosMax said:

funkman88 said:

yes he got soft and complacent in old age because he had lost his fire..it happens to everyone...he was just cashing in on the million dollar shows and thats ok . he deserved it!

Exactly. He didn’t need to prove himself at that point. He basically just partied on stage with everyone and made his money

Venal interpretations abound.

As long as he saw the crowd smiling, dancing, having a good time and singing along, that's probably all that mattered to him.

Prince knew the skill level of 3EG. I'll leave it at that.

bonatoc said:

Wait...people think he was going to fine Joshua Welton for getting a keyboard riff wrong?

rogifan said:

Wait...people think he was going to fine Joshua Welton for getting a keyboard riff wrong?

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Wasn't that the same guy that fumbled on the Purple Rain remaster?

Overseen by Prince yes, but still a disaster.

I see a trend here.

thebanishedone said:

bonatoc said:

That fine thing is a joke, it has been confirmed by Eric Leeds and Susan Rogers,
who spent enough time in the studio to know what they're talking about.
The only dollars he took from his musicians were for the "No Swear" Cookie Jar.

you talk nonsense.a former Prince band member who was there for Ona and Musicology tour told me he fined John Blackwell a lot if times because of his timing problems

Yes, and Mayte has said he fined her for gaining weight. Plenty of people have said they were fined.

funkman88 said:

yes he got soft and complacent in old age because he had lost his fire..it happens to everyone...he was just cashing in on the million dollar shows and thats ok . he deserved it!

seriously?....I saw P's flashes of anger on his final UK tour with 3rd eye girl - actually looked him in the eye once - horrendous! Complacent ? - is the biggest BS line ever in P world. He kicked Hannah's ass in front of 20k fans for fucking up the lead into Contoversey , I saw him physically throw his guitar at the tech in Leeds [the look on Ps' face was terryfying btw!]

Don't forget, in his latter years itw as rather clear & obvious that he was taking on the role of being a mentor/teacher to the next generation too. Note, he also did mellow...but his standards didn't slip.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

funkman88 said:

yes he got soft and complacent in old age because he had lost his fire..it happens to everyone...he was just cashing in on the million dollar shows and thats ok . he deserved it!

seriously?....I saw P's flashes of anger on his final UK tour with 3rd eye girl

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It's an unonscious process at first.

See the band issues.

See the setlists.

See the PR remaster.

See his health and death.

See the lack of a will or any other arrangement or construct to facilitate the heir situation.

It is multidimensional, where his genius was in one specific area.

The people around him did not compensate his shortcomings well enough.

RJOrion said:

wait...hold up...he fined HIS WIFE for gaining weight?... thats literally pimp shit for real... wow.. i read her book, i must have missed that part or it wasnt in there

She wasn't his wife at the time, and you must've missed it.

Carmen Electra said in a late 90's interview that P made her cry when he told her she was gaining weight.

Personally, I think that no matter what level of musical 'experts' he surrounded himself with or shared the stage with, it was always him that we came to see at the shows, and he knew it. I loved The Revolution and NPG, but it was always a revolving door for singers/musicians when it came to the bands. I don't think that he became any softer on the members as he aged. He continued to fine them when they screwed up, at least up until 3rdeyegirl. I didn't pay much attention to 3rd when he formed that band because it was mostly a heavy guitar sound and I didn't care much for it.

SPYZFAN1 said:

funkman88 said:

PennyPurple said:

thebanishedone said:

bonatoc said: you talk nonsense.a former Prince band member who was there for Ona and Musicology tour told me he fined John Blackwell a lot if times because of his timing problems

Yes, and Mayte has said he fined her for gaining weight. Plenty of people have said they were fined.

My Bad.
Damn, Christopher.

I remember reading about her reaction to the "I Hate U" song, but I do recall reading about the weight comment. I remember thinking; "What kind of weight problem did he see with her?"

SPYZFAN1 said:

I remember reading about her reaction to the "I Hate U" song, but I do recall reading about the weight comment. I remember thinking; "What kind of weight problem did he see with her?"

her booty was way too big ..it was rediculous

TheTruth123 said:

Are you sure that wasn’t about when he played “I Hate U” for her? I don’t think he ever said anything to her about her weight.

It's in her book. She describes how he used to comment on her diet, and weight like there was a problem and it alledgedly continued during her pregnancy.

lavendardrummachine said:

TheTruth123 said:

Are you sure that wasn’t about when he played “I Hate U” for her? I don’t think he ever said anything to her about her weight.

It's in her book. She describes how he used to comment on her diet, and weight like there was a problem and it alledgedly continued during her pregnancy.

he shoulda gave her some of that good coke his brother said he was using,,,she woulda knocked them pounds off easily...

funkman88 said:

he shoulda gave her some of that good coke his brother said he was using,,,she woulda knocked them pounds off easily...

There were no pounds to knock off. It was a control thing.