I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, BUT: where the hell is the Beautiful Night encore jam with Miles in the Amazon listings? On the DVD I mean?

[Edited 6/25/20 0:20am]

simon1969 said:

databank said:

AvocadosMax said:

darkroman said: No, whats funny is people willing to have Michael Howe over Questlove or anyone else Howe has done an exceptional job.

With all due respect, Mr. Howe did everything but an admirable job. There have literally been problems with every posthumous release:

- Fake posthumous edit of Let's Work on 4ever (not sure if M. Howe was involved).

- Sound glitches on Erotic City and Computer Blue on PR Deluxe + material missing from the b-sides/mixes CD + mistitling of Possessed + the Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden crossfade appears to be a posthumous fake mix made from 2 different cassettes (and not even faithful to the original crossfade according to traders who have it).

- Fake posthumous mix of NC2U on the single, then again on Originals.

- Pitch problem and other sound issues with the P&AM83 release, that according to the engineers here could have been corrected at least to a certain extent.

- At least half of Originals is made of fake posthumous mixes (and Niko Bolas' Peach and Black interview sheds some light on the totally erratic method that was used to determine which version of each track would be "recreated").

- Hiring Niko Bolas in the first place, who is undoubtebly a great professional, but one who (by his own admission) knew nothing about Prince's music beforehand. Even if the engineers who worked on early to mid 80's material are retired, I'm sure many of the engineers Prince used later in his career are still available to do the job.

- The Versace Experience apparently sourced from cassette (if the master was lost then they should have said it).

- Material missing from the 1999 Deluxe b-sides/mixes CD + little to no effort to improve the sound quality of the video concert + I'm still unsure whether ALL the mixes were as faithful to Prince's cassette mixes as they could have been (but, admitedly, they seem to be way more faithful than the ones on Originals).

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Now I'm not saying Mr. Howe's job is easy: accidents can happen, posthumous mixes will never be exactly like the cassettes mixes, etc., but certain things in the list above were deliberate choices, either because Mr. Howe took artistic licence, or possibly, in some cases, to minimize expanses.

In the end the good news is that all of the above can be rereleased with the problems fixed, one day in the future, but I don't trust this man to do the best possible job, and probably never will after this sad series of fiascos.

Forgive my ignorance (and Im sure the answers are buried in many threads here) but......

What are the sound glitches on Computer Blue and Erotic City?

Whats missing from the Purple Rain b-sides/mixes CD

Whats missing from the 1999 b-sides/mixes CD

Why is Possessed mistitled on PR Deluxe?

Maybe I havent listened to them enough (or my ears are sensative enough) but any help appreciated......

BartVanHemelen said:

67minutes said:

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, BUT: where the hell is the Beautiful Night encore jam with Miles in the Amazon listings? On the DVD I mean?

[Edited 6/25/20 0:20am]

I wonder the same, because that would be a seriously massive omission in case it's actually not included. Perhaps that's one of the couple of issues that's "going to piss fans off" according the comment from Mathieu Bitton?

psyche2 said:

67minutes said:

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, BUT: where the hell is the Beautiful Night encore jam with Miles in the Amazon listings? On the DVD I mean?

[Edited 6/25/20 0:20am]

I wonder the same, because that would be a seriously massive omission in case it's actually not included. Perhaps that's one of the couple of issues that's "going to piss fans off" according the comment from Mathieu Bitton?

And why would you choose that particular concert for the DVD and omit the unique selling point? That encore IS the gig!

psyche2 said:

67minutes said:

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, BUT: where the hell is the Beautiful Night encore jam with Miles in the Amazon listings? On the DVD I mean?

[Edited 6/25/20 0:20am]

I wonder the same, because that would be a seriously massive omission in case it's actually not included. Perhaps that's one of the couple of issues that's "going to piss fans off" according the comment from Mathieu Bitton?

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It's listed on the Amazon page for the LP box set – it's missing from the CD box page (but it's obviously just a listing error).

thanks for posting those Amazon links Bart😊

Kares said:

psyche2 said:

I wonder the same, because that would be a seriously massive omission in case it's actually not included. Perhaps that's one of the couple of issues that's "going to piss fans off" according the comment from Mathieu Bitton?

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It's listed on the Amazon page for the LP box set – it's missing from the CD box page (but it's obviously just a listing error).

I hope it won't be a vinyl-only bonus track...

Those same Amazon links in a different format (same disclaimer as before: links may or may not yet work):

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USA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

CAN: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

GBR: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

FRA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

DEU: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

ITA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

ESP: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

AUS: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

JPN: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

[Edited 6/25/20 2:13am]

ufoclub said:

BlueShakooo said:

Just ordered my CD set, very much looking forward to this one.

Pjwest said:

databank said:

With all due respect, Mr. Howe did everything but an admirable job. There have literally been problems with every posthumous release:

- Fake posthumous edit of Let's Work on 4ever (not sure if M. Howe was involved).

- Sound glitches on Erotic City and Computer Blue on PR Deluxe + material missing from the b-sides/mixes CD + mistitling of Possessed + the Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden crossfade appears to be a posthumous fake mix made from 2 different cassettes (and not even faithful to the original crossfade according to traders who have it).

- Fake posthumous mix of NC2U on the single, then again on Originals.

- Pitch problem and other sound issues with the P&AM83 release, that according to the engineers here could have been corrected at least to a certain extent.

- At least half of Originals is made of fake posthumous mixes (and Niko Bolas' Peach and Black interview sheds some light on the totally erratic method that was used to determine which version of each track would be "recreated").

- Hiring Niko Bolas in the first place, who is undoubtebly a great professional, but one who (by his own admission) knew nothing about Prince's music beforehand. Even if the engineers who worked on early to mid 80's material are retired, I'm sure many of the engineers Prince used later in his career are still available to do the job.

- The Versace Experience apparently sourced from cassette (if the master was lost then they should have said it).

- Material missing from the 1999 Deluxe b-sides/mixes CD + little to no effort to improve the sound quality of the video concert + I'm still unsure whether ALL the mixes were as faithful to Prince's cassette mixes as they could have been (but, admitedly, they seem to be way more faithful than the ones on Originals).

.

Now I'm not saying Mr. Howe's job is easy: accidents can happen, posthumous mixes will never be exactly like the cassettes mixes, etc., but certain things in the list above were deliberate choices, either because Mr. Howe took artistic licence, or possibly, in some cases, to minimize expanses.

In the end the good news is that all of the above can be rereleased with the problems fixed, one day in the future, but I don't trust this man to do the best possible job, and probably never will after this sad series of fiascos.

Forgive my ignorance (and Im sure the answers are buried in many threads here) but......

What are the sound glitches on Computer Blue and Erotic City?

Whats missing from the Purple Rain b-sides/mixes CD

Whats missing from the 1999 b-sides/mixes CD

Why is Possessed mistitled on PR Deluxe?

Maybe I havent listened to them enough (or my ears are sensative enough) but any help appreciated......

Not sure about Computer Blue but Erotic City has a small glitch at the start. Purple Rain Deluxe was missing 4 edits of Purple Rain, and 1999 Deluxe was missing the mono version of Delirious. The last one is quite annoying since it contained literally every other version of every song released on the singles. Not sure about Possessed.

[Edited 6/25/20 3:33am]

Pjwest said:

databank said:

With all due respect, Mr. Howe did everything but an admirable job. There have literally been problems with every posthumous release:

- Fake posthumous edit of Let's Work on 4ever (not sure if M. Howe was involved).

- Sound glitches on Erotic City and Computer Blue on PR Deluxe + material missing from the b-sides/mixes CD + mistitling of Possessed + the Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden crossfade appears to be a posthumous fake mix made from 2 different cassettes (and not even faithful to the original crossfade according to traders who have it).

- Fake posthumous mix of NC2U on the single, then again on Originals.

- Pitch problem and other sound issues with the P&AM83 release, that according to the engineers here could have been corrected at least to a certain extent.

- At least half of Originals is made of fake posthumous mixes (and Niko Bolas' Peach and Black interview sheds some light on the totally erratic method that was used to determine which version of each track would be "recreated").

- Hiring Niko Bolas in the first place, who is undoubtebly a great professional, but one who (by his own admission) knew nothing about Prince's music beforehand. Even if the engineers who worked on early to mid 80's material are retired, I'm sure many of the engineers Prince used later in his career are still available to do the job.

- The Versace Experience apparently sourced from cassette (if the master was lost then they should have said it).

- Material missing from the 1999 Deluxe b-sides/mixes CD + little to no effort to improve the sound quality of the video concert + I'm still unsure whether ALL the mixes were as faithful to Prince's cassette mixes as they could have been (but, admitedly, they seem to be way more faithful than the ones on Originals).

.

Now I'm not saying Mr. Howe's job is easy: accidents can happen, posthumous mixes will never be exactly like the cassettes mixes, etc., but certain things in the list above were deliberate choices, either because Mr. Howe took artistic licence, or possibly, in some cases, to minimize expanses.

In the end the good news is that all of the above can be rereleased with the problems fixed, one day in the future, but I don't trust this man to do the best possible job, and probably never will after this sad series of fiascos.

Forgive my ignorance (and Im sure the answers are buried in many threads here) but......

What are the sound glitches on Computer Blue and Erotic City?

The glitch on the long cut of Erotic City is at the beginning and so brutal you can't miss it. The one on CB is on a channel only and more discreet. Might have been on the cassette they used in which case there was little they could do, but EC is unexcusable.

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Whats missing from the Purple Rain b-sides/mixes CD

At the very least 4 other single edits of Purple Rain and the audio from the 3 live music videos (including 2 different edits of IWD4U) as well as the audio from the Let's Go Crazy music video (of which 2 versions may exist but this remain unconfirmed). The above was absolutely essential, what follows is technically a little more complicated so I didn't expect them to do it, but it could happen in a future rerelease:

(If you really want to go completist all the way:

This is debatable but technically the first version of 4 The Tears In Your Eyes was released at the very end of the PR era (i.e. before the release of ATWIAD), so I'd have included it (but it can also be considered more appropriate for ATWIAD Deluxe, I'll give you that, and obviously that was their reasoning).

There might be rights issues with WB film (at least that's what the absence of it from the YT channel suggests), but there appears to be several different edits of the PR MV (it's something we haven't been able to solve entirely yet) that could have been included in audio and/or video.

There might also be rights issues involved but clean audio and/or video copies of the 2 1985 TV performances would have been a cool bonus (and I'm sure the rights issues could have been dealt with).

And finally, they could have included some extra music from the film (not the side projects but the Prince stuff) and/or try and dig-up some of the promo snippets of the PR tour sent to various TV channels at the time to promote the tour, but admitedly all the above necessitated access to the vault, which they didn't have yet, so let's just stick to the PR edits and MVs audio.

All the video material above as well as the WDC and PR MVs could also have been included on the DVD alongside the concert.)

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Whats missing from the 1999 b-sides/mixes CD

They did a much better effort with that one, yet managed to leave off the 12'' edit of 1999 as well as the Delirious mono edit.

Now if you wanted to go all the way:

(This is more debatable and might also involve rights issues, but technically the 2 lip-synched TV performances are slightly alternate mixes because Bobby's live drums at least can be heard over the prerecorded track, so these could have been included.

The above and MVs could also have been added to the DVD as well, despite being on YT).

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Why is Possessed mistitled on PR Deluxe?

They got the year wrong. There are, in fact, several other fuck-ups in the liner notes regarding recording dates, ou can read it all on PV: http://princevault.com/in...ain_Deluxe

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Maybe I havent listened to them enough (or my ears are sensative enough) but any help appreciated......

Anytime And I could also have mentioned in my OP that according to the ingineers here, there seemed to be a pitch problem with the IFFY demo single as well (but I forgot about that one).

[Edited 6/25/20 4:14am]

BartVanHemelen said:

Those same Amazon links in a different format (same disclaimer as before: links may or may not yet work):

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USA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

CAN: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

GBR: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

FRA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

DEU: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

ITA: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

ESP: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

AUS: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

JPN: SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD | SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD | SOTT Deluxe - 3CD | SOTT Deluxe - 4LP | SOTT Remastered - 2CD

[Edited 6/25/20 2:13am]

Thanks for doing this Bart

embmmusic said:

Pjwest said:

Forgive my ignorance (and Im sure the answers are buried in many threads here) but......

What are the sound glitches on Computer Blue and Erotic City?

Whats missing from the Purple Rain b-sides/mixes CD

Whats missing from the 1999 b-sides/mixes CD

Why is Possessed mistitled on PR Deluxe?

Maybe I havent listened to them enough (or my ears are sensative enough) but any help appreciated......

Not sure about Computer Blue but Erotic City has a small glitch at the start. Purple Rain Deluxe was missing 4 edits of Purple Rain, and 1999 Deluxe was missing the mono version of Delirious. The last one is quite annoying since it contained literally every other version of every song released on the singles. Not sure about Possessed.

[Edited 6/25/20 3:33am]

You beat me to it

AND I had forgotten about the Delirious mono edit, thx for the reminder. I'll edit my post appropriately

OnlyNDaUsa said:

...aaaaand the U.S. links are all dead again.

[Edited 6/25/20 4:59am]

67minutes said:

I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, BUT: where the hell is the Beautiful Night encore jam with Miles in the Amazon listings? On the DVD I mean?

[Edited 6/25/20 0:20am]

It was listed on the Vinyl set at first...is it not there now?

PacManPlus said:

...aaaaand the U.S. links are all dead again.

[Edited 6/25/20 4:59am]

Good.

I hope they got the pricing wrong and are fixing it.

The 1999 Super Deluxe was around £70. SOTT has 2 extra discs but is priced at £149.

That has to be wrong.

love2thenines2003 said:

both boxes vinyl one and 9 cds/dvd will be the same size (32cm x 32cm) so that the unique 120-page booklet can be included. We will therefore be entitled to Jeff Katz's photos in maxi format, whether we buy the CD or LP box set. Finally, for information, the LP box set should weigh in at about... 6 kilos. Thanx 2 the french forum Schkopi....for this exclusive detail [Edited 6/25/20 4:54am]

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It is a step in the right direction, I'll might go for the CD box version this time – however, I guess I would still lose all the photos of the LP inner sleeves (and to me, those reproductions of the studio tape boxes are more important than, let's say, another dozen pics of P posing).

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But what about those people who bought the CD version of '1999 SDE'? How will these two, entirelly different sized sets look on the shelf?
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This is yet another example to show a total lack of planning that should've been done BEFORE they released Purple Rain Deluxe. They should've created standard guidelines, principles and strategy and schedule for a long-term release-program for the Vault. I can't see proof of any of these. It's all ad hoc decisions, total lack of strategy and planning. VERY disappointing and sad – it's certainly not what this unique artist's vast recorded legacy deserves.
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[Edited 6/25/20 5:38am]

tab32792 said:

No. It’s the show from the 20th. The band played 4 into sheila’s solo instead of now’s the time. I have the amateur concert OnlyNDaUsa said:

Why is "Four" listed? They did "Now's the Time" at that point in the show... did they take "Four" from the Madhouse set and mix in in place of "now's the time"?

thank you! I did find the set lists on princevault (for some dumb reason I went to setlist) and yeah, they did "four" a few times during the tour...

love2thenines2003 said:

both boxes vinyl one and 9 cds/dvd will be the same size (32cm x 32cm) so that the unique 120-page booklet can be included. We will therefore be entitled to Jeff Katz's photos in maxi format, whether we buy the CD or LP box set. Finally, for information, the LP box set should weigh in at about... 6 kilos. Thanx 2 the french forum Schkopi....for this exclusive detail [Edited 6/25/20 4:54am]

Like Led Zeppelin did with there 4 CD box set in 1990? Nice! That is really the way to go...

it would also be nice if the digital edition came with the book in HD format.

i don't own a cd player anymore and my mac computer doesn't even have
a disc slot. so there's no way for me to listen to or rip the cd's.

also, i don't own a record player. i listen to all my music digitally.

i don't mind not having a physical release in my hands as long as i can get
everything in digital format, including the artwork and booklets etc.

wait, there IS no digital edition
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lottusflower said:

There seem to be photos on the official page (not live yet, thought), in case anyone wants to search.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1091596104195943/permalink/3203207243034808/

[Edited 6/25/20 6:22am]

Holy crap, there is a singles box set???? Or is this simply the art for the LP box set? But then why this look & feel?

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