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Reply #270 posted 06/24/20 2:24pm

LoveGalore

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Musze said:

I wish he had allowed himself to look back/reflect more during his life and to celebrate these classics with releases like this.

Regardless, I'm just glad it's happening now.

Prince(r.i.p.) knew that his muziq would be heard when he was long gone. That's what he wanted. I met a dancer that worked for him. She said he wanted an album released a year for 21 years after he was gone.

Well according to you on LSA, you know pretty much everyone who was ever even tangentially connected to Prince. I bet you have more insider info than Neversin!

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Reply #271 posted 06/24/20 2:29pm

PacManPlus

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I played around with preordering it without success. They won't ship to me in Australia or my son in Canada

How did you get to it? Every time I try I get a "Sorry! We couldn't find that page." (and a picture of a dog) sad

[Edited 6/24/20 14:30pm]

[Edited 6/24/20 14:31pm]

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Reply #272 posted 06/24/20 2:37pm

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jaawwnn said:

I am very sorry for continuing the pizza analogy.

Don't apologize. I thought the pizza analogy was super smart...and not just because it was mine. wink

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Reply #273 posted 06/24/20 2:40pm

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PacManPlus said:

tdavison said:

I played around with preordering it without success. They won't ship to me in Australia or my son in Canada

How did you get to it? Every time I try I get a "Sorry! We couldn't find that page." (and a picture of a dog) sad

[Edited 6/24/20 14:30pm]

[Edited 6/24/20 14:31pm]



The listing has been taken down because it was premature. It will hopefully be put back up again soon (after the official announcement).


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Reply #274 posted 06/24/20 2:40pm

Ramzoo

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PacManPlus said:

tdavison said:

I played around with preordering it without success. They won't ship to me in Australia or my son in Canada

How did you get to it? Every time I try I get a "Sorry! We couldn't find that page." (and a picture of a dog) sad

[Edited 6/24/20 14:30pm]

[Edited 6/24/20 14:31pm]

Me too. I think that's because we didn't receive yet an official announcement from the Estate. 2morrow?

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Reply #275 posted 06/24/20 2:41pm

alb69

From the non-food section now; cool

What exact date in Utrecht is on the deluxe again?

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Reply #276 posted 06/24/20 2:51pm

Wolfie87

So guys...how will this release fair with an average score with combined reviews? I think we will never see the likes of this kind of packaging and glowing reviews in a long time. I'm talking 6/5 or 11/10 scores, no joke.
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Reply #277 posted 06/24/20 3:23pm

fortuneandsere
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ThirdStrike said:

ForceofNature said:

I am with you. I guarantee even if they included repetitious tracks that make the CB or DF configurations abailable 100% you would still have people complaining about how Girl O' My Dreams isn't there, or how they didn't include this one obscure very specific confirguration that had a 30 edit on __


Ultimately I feel like if people focus on what we are getting as opposed to what obscure edit or version isn't on the album, we will all see how amazing this release is gonna be

Exactly!! Listen, for YEARS I've heard the same damn snippet of "Cosmic Day". In 90 days, I'll get to hear not only the rest of that damn song, but I'll get to hear it in crystal clear sound quality. Not to mention "Adonis & Bathsheba", which is one of my all-time favorite tracks. Then "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Cocoa Boys", etc. Fuck the pizza!!! This could be a damn SALAD and I'd still ove the shit out of it...


There might be great songs over the discs. But it's going to come off as an uneven compilation, just like Purple Rain and 1999 deluxe compilations before it. Songs that don't flow into next track, great songs preceding/following mediocre songs, songs that sound-wise don't belong on the same 'compilation'. There was a unique vibe to every P album but all songs managed to go together, near enough

What's wrong with posthumous P albums per se, as opposed to deluxe editions? They won't grab you with any familiarity like 'oh yeah that'.

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Reply #278 posted 06/24/20 3:26pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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alb69 said:

From the non-food section now; cool

What exact date in Utrecht is on the deluxe again?

It was not stated: could be a mix? but he played Utrecht 4 nights June 19-22.

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Reply #279 posted 06/24/20 3:28pm

ThirdStrike

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fortuneandserendipity said:

ThirdStrike said:

Exactly!! Listen, for YEARS I've heard the same damn snippet of "Cosmic Day". In 90 days, I'll get to hear not only the rest of that damn song, but I'll get to hear it in crystal clear sound quality. Not to mention "Adonis & Bathsheba", which is one of my all-time favorite tracks. Then "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Cocoa Boys", etc. Fuck the pizza!!! This could be a damn SALAD and I'd still ove the shit out of it...


There might be great songs over the discs. But it's going to come off as an uneven compilation, just like Purple Rain and 1999 deluxe compilations before it. Songs that don't flow into next track, great songs preceding/following mediocre songs, songs that sound-wise don't belong on the same 'compilation'. There was a unique vibe to every P album but all songs managed to go together, near enough

What's wrong with posthumous P albums per se, as opposed to deluxe editions? They won't grab you with any familiarity like 'oh yeah that'.

I. LOVE. PIZZA. heart heart heart heart heart heart heart heart

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Reply #280 posted 06/24/20 3:38pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Why is "Four" listed? They did "Now's the Time" at that point in the show... did they take "Four" from the Madhouse set and mix in in place of "now's the time"?

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Reply #281 posted 06/24/20 3:42pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Why is "Four" listed? They did "Now's the Time" at that point in the show... did they take "Four" from the Madhouse set and mix in in place of "now's the time"?


are you serious? "Four" was performed on the 20th and the 22nd. it's right there on princevault smile


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Reply #282 posted 06/24/20 3:43pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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IstenSzek said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Why is "Four" listed? They did "Now's the Time" at that point in the show... did they take "Four" from the Madhouse set and mix in in place of "now's the time"?


are you serious? "Four" was performed on the 20th and the 22nd. it's right there on princevault smile


ok i checked the site setlist or whatever it is

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Reply #283 posted 06/24/20 3:46pm

Ramzoo

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IstenSzek said:



OnlyNDaUsa said:


Why is "Four" listed? They did "Now's the Time" at that point in the show... did they take "Four" from the Madhouse set and mix in in place of "now's the time"?




are you serious? "Four" was performed on the 20th and the 22nd. it's right there on princevault smile



If I'm not mistaken, Housequake FB leak mentioned the second show (20th).
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Reply #284 posted 06/24/20 4:09pm

SchlomoThaHomo

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PacManPlus said:

Listing is gone again from Amazon sad




I was able to make a pre-order using this link just right now. In case the price goes up tomorrow, maybe they’ll honor the original SRP.

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Reply #285 posted 06/24/20 4:16pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

PacManPlus said:

Listing is gone again from Amazon sad

I was able to make a pre-order using this link just right now. In case the price goes up tomorrow, maybe they’ll honor the original SRP. https://webcache.googleus...&gl=nl

They should honour your original price, at least that is what would happen at amazon.co.uk

RIP sad
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Reply #286 posted 06/24/20 4:21pm

glamlife2

LoveGalore said:

databank said:

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- The 3 CDs of outtakes sound fine to me. The most blatant omission is the Dream Factory Musical suite (Can't Stop, Data Bank, We Can Funk, Girl O' My Dreams), but admitedly they couldn't include everything anyway, and that leaves material for future releases.

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- As pointed by others, it won't be totally possible for us to recreate any DF, Camille or CB config with the material included there. I think it's better that way because, as suggested by someone, those early album configurations would make perfect RSD releases. Prince left many work in progress configurations behind him, and if the estate was to release one or 2 each year for RSD, this would make many a fan happy. Hopefully they'll consider it. Then, sequencing (including the length of silence between tracks) could be respected and we'd get exactly what Prince tried.

Can't Stop, Data Bank, We Can Funk, and Girl O' My Dreams were recorded for The Dawn, so perhaps there's something planned for that? I know When The Dawn of the Morning Comes, Crucial, and Cocoa Boys are also part of that project, but IDK what else would be the reasoning.

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As for DF and Camille: We can create Camille with this release of Rebirth and we can create the July 18 1986 configuration of DF. What's missing?? You'd probably have to do a few edits if you're a legit completist: clipping the first second of Last Heart, the crowd noise on Movie Star, the alarm from Starfish. I guess you mean the longer ICNTTPOYM? Aside from that and the intro of Joy in Repetition, this fills in all the gaps of all three albums.

For Crystal Ball you also would need to re-create the segue between Rebirth of The Flesh and Play In The Sunshine (with machine gun like sounds after "Come To The Crystal Ball"). This version of PITS is circulating but may not get a remaster... and also you'd need the segue from The Ball into Joy In Repetition (not the long intro version). Also not sure what version of Crystal Ball should've been on the album (Dream Factory used a pre-Clare Fischer strings version).

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Reply #287 posted 06/24/20 4:26pm

slyjackson

Rimshottbob said:

IstenSzek said:



ok,cool! date and price changing are things we can live with smile


Er, except if the release date is changed to September 2040, and the price is now $1000. lol

lol lol

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Reply #288 posted 06/24/20 4:27pm

databank

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LoveGalore said:

databank said:

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- The 3 CDs of outtakes sound fine to me. The most blatant omission is the Dream Factory Musical suite (Can't Stop, Data Bank, We Can Funk, Girl O' My Dreams), but admitedly they couldn't include everything anyway, and that leaves material for future releases.

.

- As pointed by others, it won't be totally possible for us to recreate any DF, Camille or CB config with the material included there. I think it's better that way because, as suggested by someone, those early album configurations would make perfect RSD releases. Prince left many work in progress configurations behind him, and if the estate was to release one or 2 each year for RSD, this would make many a fan happy. Hopefully they'll consider it. Then, sequencing (including the length of silence between tracks) could be respected and we'd get exactly what Prince tried.

Can't Stop, Data Bank, We Can Funk, and Girl O' My Dreams were recorded for The Dawn, so perhaps there's something planned for that? I know When The Dawn of the Morning Comes, Crucial, and Cocoa Boys are also part of that project, but IDK what else would be the reasoning.

.

As for DF and Camille: We can create Camille with this release of Rebirth and we can create the July 18 1986 configuration of DF. What's missing?? You'd probably have to do a few edits if you're a legit completist: clipping the first second of Last Heart, the crowd noise on Movie Star, the alarm from Starfish. I guess you mean the longer ICNTTPOYM? Aside from that and the intro of Joy in Repetition, this fills in all the gaps of all three albums.

What I meant is we can't use the material as is, you'd need to get things from different sources with varous sound quality and do some serious tinkering, whic in the end means getting nothing better than what's already circulating.

This said, genuine copies of Camille and DF3 are doing the rounds in certain circles (copies of DF1 and DF2 may also exist but I'm not aware of this), so fakes will easily be spotted nod

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Reply #289 posted 06/24/20 4:27pm

slyjackson

Romeoblu said:

jaorecords said:

What are everyone's thoughts on what the preview single will be to accompany the official press realease? They ususally release one song at press release.

My pick is either EMOTIONAL PUMP or EVERYBODY WANT WHAT THEY DON'T GOT.

Both are very commerical and poppy or funky sounding tracks that would make a good first impression on new listeners. I think EMOTIONAL PUMP would be the smartest choice personally. Thoughts?

I agree Emotional Pump is a quality track that has that great funk pop vibe. My own choice would be Cosmic Day as I've longed to hear the full version. I think they might go with a live track or Power Fantastic. Can I Play with u might also get the attention of Miles and Jazz fans.

I don't get why they include a live studio version of Power Fantastic instead of the studio version.

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Reply #290 posted 06/24/20 4:30pm

slyjackson

AvocadosMax said:

Now that I got my whining out the way, I’M SO EXCITED TO HEAR IN A LARGE ROOM WITH NO LIGHT IN PRISTINE AUDIO QUALITY AND THE 1979 VERSION OF I COULD NEVER TAKE THE PLACE OF YOUR MAN

Me too I love the original version, I despise the waterdown 00's version.

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Reply #291 posted 06/24/20 4:32pm

databank

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LoveGalore said:

jaawwnn said:
It strikes me that Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room with No Light is going to be strange sequencing.
There is more to that song than the general populace knows. It's way longer (by about 100%) than the existing version. I don't think we'll see a transition here like the fanmade transition into DF.

AFAIK the genuine circulating tape of DF has a Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room that's similar to the fan reconstruction. I'm curious: where did you get your info?

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Reply #292 posted 06/24/20 4:35pm

databank

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slyjackson said:

Romeoblu said:

jaorecords said: I agree Emotional Pump is a quality track that has that great funk pop vibe. My own choice would be Cosmic Day as I've longed to hear the full version. I think they might go with a live track or Power Fantastic. Can I Play with u might also get the attention of Miles and Jazz fans.

I don't get why they include a live studio version of Power Fantastic instead of the studio version.

I think it's probably just the alternate vocals take DJed by Questlove, it was either that or the longer edit of the B-Sides version we have on boots. Technically, what you call the "studio" version is what they call "live in the studio" since it was recorded that way.

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Reply #293 posted 06/24/20 4:35pm

mbdtyler

slyjackson said:

Romeoblu said:

jaorecords said: I agree Emotional Pump is a quality track that has that great funk pop vibe. My own choice would be Cosmic Day as I've longed to hear the full version. I think they might go with a live track or Power Fantastic. Can I Play with u might also get the attention of Miles and Jazz fans.

I don't get why they include a live studio version of Power Fantastic instead of the studio version.

My understanding is that the song was recorded live in one take at Prince's home studio (including the long intro), so maybe that's why they labeled the track as such.

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Reply #294 posted 06/24/20 4:36pm

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jaawwnn said:

I am very sorry for continuing the pizza analogy.


If each disc was a pizza then the edits CD must be a Hawaiian!

All in all though the whole set is a deep dish with a stuffed crust!
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #295 posted 06/24/20 4:57pm

LoveGalore

databank said:



LoveGalore said:


jaawwnn said:
It strikes me that Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room with No Light is going to be strange sequencing.

There is more to that song than the general populace knows. It's way longer (by about 100%) than the existing version. I don't think we'll see a transition here like the fanmade transition into DF.

AFAIK the genuine circulating tape of DF has a Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room that's similar to the fan reconstruction. I'm curious: where did you get your info?



It's just from the Questlove screenshots which clocks it at over 2 minutes. The fanmade transition version is just 1 minute (bringing the Frankenstein to 4 minutes).
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Reply #296 posted 06/24/20 5:05pm

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No Extra Loveable? This is bullshit. err

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
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Reply #297 posted 06/24/20 5:19pm

ForceofNature

fortuneandserendipity said:

ThirdStrike said:

Exactly!! Listen, for YEARS I've heard the same damn snippet of "Cosmic Day". In 90 days, I'll get to hear not only the rest of that damn song, but I'll get to hear it in crystal clear sound quality. Not to mention "Adonis & Bathsheba", which is one of my all-time favorite tracks. Then "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Cocoa Boys", etc. Fuck the pizza!!! This could be a damn SALAD and I'd still ove the shit out of it...


There might be great songs over the discs. But it's going to come off as an uneven compilation, just like Purple Rain and 1999 deluxe compilations before it. Songs that don't flow into next track, great songs preceding/following mediocre songs, songs that sound-wise don't belong on the same 'compilation'. There was a unique vibe to every P album but all songs managed to go together, near enough

What's wrong with posthumous P albums per se, as opposed to deluxe editions? They won't grab you with any familiarity like 'oh yeah that'.

I actually like is best this way, although I am not a person who is into the whole "configurations" thing like many Prince fans sometimes can be

For me I see it as not neccesarily intended for any flow, but rather a fairly comprehensive chronological compilation of vault tracks from that era that haven't made it out on other releases. It is nice to have there - to me that chronology tells the story rather than an album flow

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Reply #298 posted 06/24/20 5:29pm

PacManPlus

SchlomoThaHomo said:

PacManPlus said:

Listing is gone again from Amazon sad

I was able to make a pre-order using this link just right now. In case the price goes up tomorrow, maybe they’ll honor the original SRP. https://webcache.googleus...&gl=nl

Thank you, that worked.

Can't wait for the Peach colored vinyl! (I LOVE colored vinyl)

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Reply #299 posted 06/24/20 6:02pm

jstar69

May have been mentioned but SOTT vinyl Sold out on the official website. Is his in prep for the coming deluxe release - official announcement please!!!
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