fortuneandserendipity said:

LoveGalore said:

tab32792 said: Those songs were slated for what became Sign o the Times so it makes sense.

Except Prince wrote 500 songs for the project. That is according to Q magazine in their greatest albums ever feature.

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Ah yes, those well-known experts.

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Totally plausible since P could have written, recorded 500 songs in 1986. He was esp prolific around this time, sometimes recording 2 songs in a day and not touring much.

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Go ahead, look at all the evidence we know and produce that list. Go ahead. I bet you won't, since this is bullshit.

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Yes, on RARE occasions Prince recorded multiple songs a day. Notice the word RARE.

mediumdry said:

Interesting how people think that what leaked, which has a lot of missing track numbers, is the definitive list and complain.

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That's cause a lot of Prince fans are beyond lazy. People who need to be spoonfed info and then still manage to get it wrong.

lol yes 1000%.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Is it possible that this is just Questlove’s private SOTT era playlist, and not the actual Super Deluxe playlist, before we all get our knickers in a twist?

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Of course it is possible. It'd be a bit of a dick move to add "2020 remaster" to the tracks if they weren't from an official remaster of this year though.

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To me, it seemd quite legit. And he is being a bit cute about it during the set. All seems par for the course for Q, he likes to show he has stuff before us mere mortals. (and he often does have it before most )

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In this case, even Casey Rain seems to think it is legit, so it must be, right?

BartVanHemelen said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Is it possible that this is just Questlove’s private SOTT era playlist, and not the actual Super Deluxe playlist, before we all get our knickers in a twist?

Yes I think it's extremely likely.

mushmackalenta said:

So 10 tracks missing if this list is legit. The most likely candidates are. Rebirth of The Flesh Dream Factory Crystal Ball full version Joy in Rep with Original intro Movie Star Last Heart Sexual Suicide Data Bank Girl O my dreams I Can't Stop This Feeling I Got We Can Funk Witness 86 Crucial sax version Wally Cosmic Day Coco Boys Conversation Piece 3 Nigs Watching A Kung Fu Movie. I don't think the Crystal Ball 98 tracks will be included and I also think Cosmic Day will be omitted. It has been so goddam elusive for years and I have a strong feeling it will be the one grail song never to be released. [Edited 6/9/20 7:26am]

If u are looking 4 the songs on the Vaul site...the list is not complete...there are few others that could be included IMO !

[Edited 6/9/20 7:32am]

[Edited 6/9/20 7:46am]

BartVanHemelen said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Totally plausible since P could have written, recorded 500 songs in 1986. He was esp prolific around this time, sometimes recording 2 songs in a day and not touring much.

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Go ahead, look at all the evidence we know and produce that list. Go ahead. I bet you won't, since this is bullshit.

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Yes, on RARE occasions Prince recorded multiple songs a day. Notice the word RARE.

I believe Susan Rogers. She's not an unauthoritative source. "He recorded a song every day... if he wasn't doing an aftershow". Don't see a significant number of aftershow dates in that year.

"Sometimes he'd be brushing his teeth upstairs, would come down and say 'Can we go again' as in 'fresh tape'. Marathon sessions, not sleeping for a few days, recording multiple songs - that's on record .

So it's more than feasible unless you're clairvoyant and know different. Just because songs aren't leaked doesn't mean they don't exist. Matt Farley recorded 20,000 songs (probably all shit). Nooone can remember any of them. But they are a thing. He's just not secretive like Prince.

mushmackalenta said:

So 10 tracks missing if this list is legit. The most likely candidates are. Rebirth of The Flesh Dream Factory Crystal Ball full version Joy in Rep with Original intro Movie Star Last Heart Sexual Suicide Data Bank Girl O my dreams I Can't Stop This Feeling I Got We Can Funk Witness 86 Crucial sax version Wally Cosmic Day Coco Boys Conversation Piece 3 Nigs Watching A Kung Fu Movie. I don't think the Crystal Ball 98 tracks will be included and I also think Cosmic Day will be omitted. It has been so goddam elusive for years and I have a strong feeling it will be the one grail song never to be released. [Edited 6/9/20 7:26am]

I thought "Dream Factory", "Last Heart", and "Sexual Suicide" were released?

It doesn't seem like it's the shorter Utrecht show

77 Intro / Sign O The Times
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80 Housequake
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83 Take The A Train / Pacemaker (presumably ICNTTPOYM)
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86 If I Was Your Girlfriend
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90 1999
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92 Kiss
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94 Beautiful Night

Track 93 implies that Forever In My Life is part of the live sequence.

VaultCurator said:

It doesn't seem like it's the shorter Utrecht show

77 Intro / Sign O The Times
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79
80 Housequake
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83 Take The A Train / Pacemaker (presumably ICNTTPOYM)
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86 If I Was Your Girlfriend
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90 1999
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92 Kiss
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94 Beautiful Night

Track 93 implies that Forever In My Life is part of the live sequence.

20/6/87

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Any guesses as to what's up with "Nevaeh Ni Ecalp (02:33)"? The segue on Dream Factory was less than a minute long, so I'm curious as to what this is and why it's 2 and a half minutes

fortuneandserendipity said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Go ahead, look at all the evidence we know and produce that list. Go ahead. I bet you won't, since this is bullshit.

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Yes, on RARE occasions Prince recorded multiple songs a day. Notice the word RARE.

I believe Susan Rogers. She's not an unauthoritative source. "He recorded a song every day... if he wasn't doing an aftershow".

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You lot need to learn about hyperbole or figure of speech.

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Read Duane Tudahl's book, make a list of all the songs recorded in 1983-1984 and then come back here and post your list.

The Estate can't win on this one. We all have different views as to what should be on there.

I would say, putting all the material in to fans hands to complete The Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball is the safest bet.

If they added Last Heart, Dream Factory, Good Love, Crystal Ball, Movie Star etc, we would complain that precious space has been lost to tracks alreaady released.

If they did leave off Rebirth, I think they will reaally have dropped the ball, unless they want to use it as the selling point for a seperate Camille release. But I hope they would be up front about the reason so that it stops the wave of complaints.

Can I ask a dumb question? If we are thinking Questlove has access to the set before anyone else does, are we then saying he was given access by the estate? Would that then seem likely if that same estate is making him remove Facebook Live posts of sets with Prince's music featured? Then if not the estate, who? I'm trying to understand how dude gets stuff before the general public. Not bootlegs. I mean legit releases (like this would seem to indicate)...

All this confusion, discussion about the tracklist shows that `the Estate` and/or WB has no tight control on the info.

So they should not announce an announcement date.

They should simply drop the announcement, including tracklist.

This solves the confusion, etc. about the tracklist.

udo said:

All this confusion, discussion about the tracklist shows that `the Estate` and/or WB has no tight control on the info.

So they should not announce an announcement date.

They should simply drop the announcement, including tracklist.

This solves the confusion, etc. about the tracklist.

First rule of promotion: Build anticipation. You can't just show your cards before getting dealt a full hand. I wouldn't be suprised if the estate isn't part of this "leaked" info in order to get people discussing it. They have total control...believe me.

VaultCurator said:

ThirdStrike said:

They have total control...believe me.

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Can be, but it does not really show. (as explained before)

ThirdStrike said:

Can I ask a dumb question? If we are thinking Questlove has access to the set before anyone else does,

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He likely does, due to him being someone who'd help promote the set. Plenty of other people will also have at least heard this set. Paul from SDE had already heard 1999SD when it was announced and had IIRC an interview with Michael Howe in the can and a track-by-track preview. Just like movie reviewers get advance screenings, just like TV reviewers get episodes weeks in advance.

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are we then saying he was given access by the estate? Would that then seem likely if that same estate is making him remove Facebook Live posts of sets with Prince's music featured?

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This often involves software recognizing songs it its db. It's automated.

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mbdtyler said:

udo said:

mbdtyler said:

Any guesses as to what's up with "Nevaeh Ni Ecalp (02:33)"? The segue on Dream Factory was less than a minute long, so I'm curious as to what this is and why it's 2 and a half minutes

Isn't there a Lisa version AND a Prince version?

mushmackalenta said:

So 10 tracks missing if this list is legit. The most likely candidates are. Rebirth of The Flesh Dream Factory Crystal Ball full version Joy in Rep with Original intro Movie Star Last Heart Sexual Suicide Data Bank Girl O my dreams I Can't Stop This Feeling I Got We Can Funk Witness 86 Crucial sax version Wally Cosmic Day Coco Boys Conversation Piece 3 Nigs Watching A Kung Fu Movie. I don't think the Crystal Ball 98 tracks will be included and I also think Cosmic Day will be omitted. It has been so goddam elusive for years and I have a strong feeling it will be the one grail song never to be released.

Could these belong on Parade's deluxe edition and perhaps a stand-alone Camille release? There's so much attributed to 1986.

Cinny said: