And some have said they want "Camille" and "Dream Factory" and
"Crystal Ball" but what is left unreleased (including substantially different versions) is there even 1 CD's worth?

OnlyNDaUsa said:

And some have said they want "Camille" and "Dream Factory" and
"Crystal Ball" but what is left unreleased (including substantially different versions) is there even 1 CD's worth?

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http://www.princevault.co...orded_1986

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http://www.princevault.co...orded_1987

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BartVanHemelen said:

Why the fuck would a demo of a song on SOTT not belong on the (Super) Deluxe edition of that album?

Why was the demo of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" on 1999 Deluxe when the released version was on Graffiti Bridge?

lustmealways said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Why the fuck would a demo of a song on SOTT not belong on the (Super) Deluxe edition of that album?

Because it was recorded well before literally everything else on the album was even concieved? If I'm listening to vault discs of a SOTT deluxe, I want recordings from 1986 and 1987. A demo with literally zero SOTT-era involvement other than the song eventually reworked shouldn't have its home on a SOTT set.

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Dude, ICNTTPOYM dates to 1982 itself. Most likely a significant part of that song was first recorded long before.

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Sheesh, it isn't "the 1986/87 box set", it is centered around SOTT.

mbdtyler said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Why the fuck would a demo of a song on SOTT not belong on the (Super) Deluxe edition of that album?

Why was the demo of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" on 1999 Deluxe when the released version was on Graffiti Bridge?

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Not the same thing.

BartVanHemelen said:

mbdtyler said:

Why was the demo of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" on 1999 Deluxe when the released version was on Graffiti Bridge?

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Not the same thing.

How so? Please explain.

BartVanHemelen said:

Because 'they' (`the Estate`) thus far chose to release stuff album by album instead of year by year it would be to be expected that they release a demo of song X on album Y even if the recording time of song X predates album Y by a long time.

In the Prince way of things songs could be a few years old before they were released, if at all.

Moonbeam said:

[color=blue] ^ JB were taking pre-orders for a while, but they screwed the pricing up and cancelled them.[\color]

soladeo1 said:

Here are the possible 1986-1987 SIGN O THE TIMES Era songs that could be on the DELUXE version, excluding songs for other artists/sideprojects...

What am I missing?

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Outakes and Assorted Stuff from Dream Factory, Camille, and Crystal Ball:

A Place In Heaven

Adonis & Bathsheba

Crystal Ball

Last Heart

Witness 4 The Prosecution

Movie Star

All In My Dreams

And That Says What?

Baby Doll House

The Ball

Good Love

Shockadelica

Joy In Repetition ('86)

Rebirth Of The Flesh

Big Tall Wall

Blanche

Boy U Bad

Coco Boys

Conversation Piece

Cosmic Day

Crucial

Duet w/ Dad

Eggplant

Emotional Pump

Euphoria Highway

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Everything But U

Frustration

Funny Love

Groove In C Minir

Groove In G Flat Minor

In A Large Room With No Light

Interlude - Wendy

It Aint't Over Till The Fat Lady Sings

It's A Wonderful Day

Junk Music

Make Your Mama Happy

Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A

When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes

We Can Funk ('86)

Wally

Walkin' In Glory

Visions

Susannah's Blues

Soulpychodelicide

Slow Groove In G Major

Sexual Suicide

Rescue Me

Pony Ride

Power Fantastic

What Did I Do?

La La La He He He

My Tree

March 24 '87 Instrumental

I guess that's pretty much, what we can expect.

So "Shockadelica" & "La, la, la..." will be on B-Sides.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Outtakes-CDs would focus on The Flesh.

I know, parts of it were used in Under The Cherry Moon.

But - though it’s not mentioned on Princevault - I think The Flesh might have been intended to be a part of Dream Factory & Crystal Ball at some point (Susannah's DF cover art + Irukanji's Crystal Ball, which is from an original tape as far as I understand).

So IF we get a Flesh CD, it would be

- Junk Music

- Up From Below

- Y'all Want Some More?

and maybe

- Groove In C Minor

- Groove In G Flat Minor

- Slow Groove In G Major

from the same sessions.

So 2 CDs might be filled with other studio material.

Already in circulation:

A Place In Heaven

Adonis & Bathsheba

Crystal Ball

Last Heart

Witness 4 The Prosecution

Movie Star

All In My Dreams

The Ball

Good Love

Joy In Repetition ('86)

Rebirth Of The Flesh

Big Tall Wall

Coco Boys

Conversation Piece

Cosmic Day

Crucial

Eggplant

Emotional Pump

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

In A Large Room With No Light

Interlude - Wendy

It Ain't Over Till The Fat Lady Sings

It's A Wonderful Day

Make Your Mama Happy

Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A

We Can Funk ('86)

Wally

Sexual Suicide

Power Fantastic

Visions

New to most of us:

And That Says What?

Baby Doll House

Blanche

Boy U Bad

Duet w/ Dad

Euphoria Highway

Everything But U

Frustration

Funny Love

Pony Ride

Rescue Me

Susannah's Blues

Soulpychodelicide ´86

Walkin' In Glory

What Did I Do?

When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes

Sadly they only filled each CD on the previous releases with max. 60 Minutes of music.

So, I hope I'm wrong with my The Flesh speculation (although I really those sessions!)

I really try hard not to expect too much.

BartVanHemelen said:

mbdtyler said:

Why was the demo of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" on 1999 Deluxe when the released version was on Graffiti Bridge?

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Not the same thing.

In what way?

Bold Generation was on 1999 deluxe even though it was an early version of New Power Generation, We Can Fuck was on PR deluxe even though an early version of We can Funk from Graffiti Bridge.

[Edited 6/7/20 3:13am]

TheFreakerFantastic said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Not the same thing.

In what way?

Bold Generation was on 1999 deluxe even though it was an early version of New Power Generation, We Can Fuck was on PR deluxe even though an early version of We can Funk from Graffiti Bridge.

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Why don't they show they have definite rules of what goes where?

A plan?

A strategy?

A mission?

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This 'problem' shows why it is needed.

BartVanHemelen said:

mbdtyler said:

Why was the demo of "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" on 1999 Deluxe when the released version was on Graffiti Bridge?

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Not the same thing.

Not only that, but do you really think there will be a super deluxe editon of Graffiti Bridge? Highly doubt it.

udo said:

LoveGalore said:

udo said:

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Why don't they show they have definite rules of what goes where?

A plan?

A strategy?

A mission?

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This 'problem' shows why it is needed.

The "problem" shows something of the cognitive capability of the people complaining and says nothing of the releases themselves which have been and will continue to be obvious and intuitive.

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No...

It shows a difference between the ordering of tracks expected and the ordering of the tracks found on the releases.

It is not simply an AlbumX Super Deluxe and all of the related tracks, irrespective of age.

It is apparently an AlbumX Super Deluxe and some not so related (to AlbumX) tracks but of the similar timeframe as AlbumX.

This creates confusion.

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OTOH:

If we can expect tracks of the timeframe, too, what non-SOTT tracks can we expect for SOTT Super Deluxe?

udo said:

LoveGalore said:

It was made very clear with the first SE release that the goal is to release era specific music. It's not hard to understand.

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If that was so clear, then why the confusion?

Why not a simple sentence on each CD's booklet about this?

udo said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

A quick thought...it was said that they were disappointed that they could not find an early version of "Raspberry Beret" for the 1999 SD set. That tells me there are no plans for an ATWIAD SE.

I'd say an '82 version of RB belongs on 1999 SD. Just like a '79 version of ICNTPOYM belongs on a Dirty Mind SD.

And, as I and others have previously stated, the versions we have of Can't Stop, Bold Generation, and We Can Fuck belong where they are, and not on some hypothetical Graffiti Bridge SD.

eyewishuheaven said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

A quick thought...it was said that they were disappointed that they could not find an early version of "Raspberry Beret" for the 1999 SD set. That tells me there are no plans for an ATWIAD SE.

I'd say an '82 version of RB belongs on 1999 SD. Just like a '79 version of ICNTPOYM belongs on a Dirty Mind SD.

And, as I and others have previously stated, the versions we have of Can't Stop, Bold Generation, and We Can Fuck belong where they are, and not on some hypothetical Graffiti Bridge SD.

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And the Dirty Mind SD isn't hypothetical?

I really REALLY hope The Flesh tracks won't be on the SOTT deluxe... taking up valuable space

Freek99999 said:

I really REALLY hope The Flesh tracks won't be on the SOTT deluxe... taking up valuable space

I agree 100%

Freek99999 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

eyewishuheaven said:

I'd say an '82 version of RB belongs on 1999 SD. Just like a '79 version of ICNTPOYM belongs on a Dirty Mind SD.

And, as I and others have previously stated, the versions we have of Can't Stop, Bold Generation, and We Can Fuck belong where they are, and not on some hypothetical Graffiti Bridge SD.

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And the Dirty Mind SD isn't hypothetical?

Certainly it is, I just didn't go over my post with a fine-toothed comb.

Still think I'm right, though.

Romeoblu said:

Freek99999 said:

I really REALLY hope The Flesh tracks won't be on the SOTT deluxe... taking up valuable space

I think the Flesh tracks should be a standalone release, there is enough material for a 4 disc release.

There's already a 4 disc bootleg of those sessions.

https://www.discogs.com/P...e/10237804

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

So no official announcement for today so far.