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Reply #510 posted 12/18/19 10:52am

PeggyO

No...I said that in CA, MD's in conjunction with their terminal patients (6 months or less to live),

may have that conversation and if both agree, the MD will write a prescription for the patient to fill which gives them the choice to take them (or not).

Prince did not have a primary doctor. He was not given pills by a doctor.

He had access to these types of pills, though. (Fentanyl)

Most people do not have these types of meds at home

Morgaine said:

PeggyO said:

I wanted to bring up some observations I have had while dealing with the death investigation threads over 3.5 years.

As an RN, we deal with a more concentrated 'everyday' experience re: topics such as addiction, suicide,

pain etc. As a result of this experience, I may be a bit more clinical re: these 'taboo' topics. It is not my intent to come across as overly clinical and objective but to try to show that these conditions still carry alot of stigma.


-For example, suicide. There is a big difference between choosing suicide for a terminal illness than a choice someone makes as a result of emotional pain.

I work in CA and it is accepted that if one has a terminal illness, and it is understood

and agreed upon by both MD and patient, it is OK to take a fatal overdose. The MD will prescribe it.

(I happen to believe this was the case with Prince, only my opinion)

I wish we would take some of the 'charge' off of this.

-Another is pain. It seems to me that hip pain is the only condition that is sanctioned by many Prince fans.

Anything else would be stigmatized. In my experience working with addicts there is often

underlying emotional pain that is a result of childhood trauma, abuse, betrayal that contributes to over-use.

It is my wish that we look at Prince as a more fully-fleshed- out human...removing stigma helps with this.

You think a Dr gave him the pills so he could end his life? How is that possible when he died from fentanyl in pills made to look like Norco that all had varying degrees of drugs in them? How would he know which pills to take? I do believe suicide is possible, it just doesn't seem likely based on the evidence. I totally he had emotional pain/trauma & the opistes would have relieved both the physical & mental/emotional pains. His childhood, the loss of his son, parents, marriages, etc imho were all great sources of psin, especially his son. And I do think all of that contributed to his pain, both mental & physical.

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Reply #511 posted 12/18/19 12:14pm

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I am one of the long-standing posters on the death investigation threads who put love and care into these threads.

But,I do know this, we both care alot about what happened with Prince or we would not be here 3.5 years later.


I’m not a long-standing poster but I have put a lot of time and love and care into my conclusions. The whole thing a giant Shakespearean Tragedy. And I can’t even tell you the full story including the “bombshells” or this post will be deleted.

I am also an RN (25+ yrs) and have given many of these drugs you seem to know so much about. Norco is extremely weak as is Vicodin. Please read more about pharmacology before you assert.


I was in nursing school for 3 years. I took pharmacology. I have given these drugs to patients in a clinical setting. My mother was also an RN.

Of course opiates make you feel good. He likely took them for physical pain and for emotional reasons as well. (at times). I have worked with countless addicts.


My mother was also on Norco for years for neck pain (you could hear her neck creak like two tree limbs rubbing together) and Percocet temporarily when she broke her ribs. I helped her setting up pills and cutting pills in half. I also had to help her with the side effect – constipation. I cannot even explain to how unpleasant this was in the last few years. When I read the Prince death investigation files it all came rushing back to me.

I have taken narcotics myself a few times in my life. (1) when I had my wisdom teeth pulled (2) when I broke off my two front teeth playing racquet ball and had to have root canals and caps put on (3) when I had extreme joint pain as a result of acute sarcoidosis (4) I had been getting migraines a few years back and my mom would give me half pills of her Norco to try and help (5) after the sarcoidosis, if I got a cold sometimes I would cough, cough, cough for months after. I’m not talking a little cough, I mean whole body, coughing up a lung type coughing, bothering others type coughing, so I have been prescribed a couple of times codeine cough syrup.

Other than the codeine cough syrup, which helped, I hated taking narcotics. I did not feel euphoria. Instead I felt sleepy and extremely nauseous, a few times leading to actual vomiting. While the narcotics took some of the edge off the pain it did not address the underlying issues. I noticed this most significantly with the joint pain with sarcoidosis. I found Tylenol and Aleve, prescription doses, addressed the underlying issues better taking the pain away and therefore I no longer need any pain medication.

I find it hard to understand how people become addicted because I did not. My mother did not. Therefore, I believe there is some physiological, genetic or extreme phycological component to addiction that is not easy to ascertain and address.

Some of the reasons I left nursing school was (1) you get a distorted view of the world – you see the worst cases over and over and you start to believe the whole world is that way. If you see a lot of addicts, you think all people on narcotics are addicts. Police officers also have this occupational hazard they see so much they start thinking everyone is a criminal and is lying. (2) the drugs and surgery treadmill dealing with chronic matters (3) having to document everything to prevent lawsuits. Reading the Moline IL hospital medical records in the Prince case brough this back to me. They pretty much did everything right. They crossed every T and dotted every I but Prince did not cooperate and refused any help other than IV fluids which he seemed to like. The hospital still got sued for wrongful death, and in what I believe is a suicide.

It is my wish that we look at Prince as a more fully-fleshed- out human...removing stigma helps with this.


Study his music, lyrics, videos, films, live shows. Prince tells you everything you need to know. Also read Judith Hill’s interview with police.

Prince was interviewed on December 10, 2010 on NYC radio station 107.5. He stated: “The music pretty much speaks for me. I’m pretty open with my music, I always have been, so you’re going to know more about me through that, than me sitting down and talking.” He says this same thing to Matt Lauer in an interview on the Today show around the time he was inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. “I’m not so mysterious. I’m a pretty open book. People who know my music, I would say, know me.”

As a result of this experience, I may be a bit more clinical re: these 'taboo' topics. It is not my intent to come across as overly clinical and objective but to try to show that these conditions still carry alot of stigma.


Yes, there is stigma. But this is a Liebestod al Romeo and Juliette. Not a Kurt Cobain, Chris Cornell suicide.

From Wikipedia


"Liebestod" ([ˈliːbəsˌtoːt] German for "love death") is the title of the final, dramatic music from the 1859 opera Tristan und Isolde by Richard Wagner. It is the climactic end of the opera, as Isolde sings over Tristan's dead body.

When used as a literary term, Liebestod (from German Liebe, love and Tod, death) refers to the theme of erotic death or "love death", meaning the two lovers' consummation of their love in death or after death. Other two-sided examples include Pyramus and Thisbe, Romeo and Juliet, and to some degree Wuthering Heights. One-sided examples are Porphyria's Lover and The Sorrows of Young Werther. The joint suicide of Heinrich von Kleist and lover Henriette Vogel is often associated with the Liebestod


Prince was goofy over Denise Matthews. They could not be together in life. So, Prince followed her in death to be with her. That is he was saying throughout his music and in his suicide note.

That is why he picked April 15. The April anniversary of Denise Matthews death. When Judith Hill stopped the April 15 attempt, he chose the alternate date of April 21. The first day of the full moon that month. As in Under The Cherry Moon.

Judith Hill’s video for Back In Time is his goodbye letter to Judith and tells her and us why he left her. Denise got there first and he can’t forget her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL9CAFm0JQ

The ‘her’ in the lyrics is Denise Matthews. He also is showing in the imagery he is still with Judith spiritually. He hasn’t abandoned her. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars, like Russel Crowe at the end of Gladiator. But this one is a real-life artist.

Unfortunately, the police file documents reports of shredding paper and deleing computer files which I believe was more detail on the suicide note that Prince left. So, in my opinion, people around him, not artists, took it into their own hands to decide not to let the police, public or most importantly Judith Hill, who is taking undeserved public hits, know the truth behind Prince’s death. You have to wonder where their loyalties lie especially when you understand the ‘bombshells’ which I can’t talk about lest this post be deleted.

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Reply #512 posted 12/18/19 12:42pm

PeggyO

authorbest said:

I am one of the long-standing posters on the death investigation threads who put love and care into these threads.

But,I do know this, we both care alot about what happened with Prince or we would not be here 3.5 years later.


I’m not a long-standing poster but I have put a lot of time and love and care into my conclusions. The whole thing a giant Shakespearean Tragedy. And I can’t even tell you the full story including the “bombshells” or this post will be deleted.

I am also an RN (25+ yrs) and have given many of these drugs you seem to know so much about. Norco is extremely weak as is Vicodin. Please read more about pharmacology before you assert.


I was in nursing school for 3 years. I took pharmacology. I have given these drugs to patients in a clinical setting. My mother was also an RN.

Of course opiates make you feel good. He likely took them for physical pain and for emotional reasons as well. (at times). I have worked with countless addicts.


My mother was also on Norco for years for neck pain (you could hear her neck creak like two tree limbs rubbing together) and Percocet temporarily when she broke her ribs. I helped her setting up pills and cutting pills in half. I also had to help her with the side effect – constipation. I cannot even explain to how unpleasant this was in the last few years. When I read the Prince death investigation files it all came rushing back to me.

I have taken narcotics myself a few times in my life. (1) when I had my wisdom teeth pulled (2) when I broke off my two front teeth playing racquet ball and had to have root canals and caps put on (3) when I had extreme joint pain as a result of acute sarcoidosis (4) I had been getting migraines a few years back and my mom would give me half pills of her Norco to try and help (5) after the sarcoidosis, if I got a cold sometimes I would cough, cough, cough for months after. I’m not talking a little cough, I mean whole body, coughing up a lung type coughing, bothering others type coughing, so I have been prescribed a couple of times codeine cough syrup.

Other than the codeine cough syrup, which helped, I hated taking narcotics. I did not feel euphoria. Instead I felt sleepy and extremely nauseous, a few times leading to actual vomiting. While the narcotics took some of the edge off the pain it did not address the underlying issues. I noticed this most significantly with the joint pain with sarcoidosis. I found Tylenol and Aleve, prescription doses, addressed the underlying issues better taking the pain away and therefore I no longer need any pain medication.

I find it hard to understand how people become addicted because I did not. My mother did not. Therefore, I believe there is some physiological, genetic or extreme phycological component to addiction that is not easy to ascertain and address.

Some of the reasons I left nursing school was (1) you get a distorted view of the world – you see the worst cases over and over and you start to believe the whole world is that way. If you see a lot of addicts, you think all people on narcotics are addicts. Police officers also have this occupational hazard they see so much they start thinking everyone is a criminal and is lying. (2) the drugs and surgery treadmill dealing with chronic matters (3) having to document everything to prevent lawsuits. Reading the Moline IL hospital medical records in the Prince case brough this back to me. They pretty much did everything right. They crossed every T and dotted every I but Prince did not cooperate and refused any help other than IV fluids which he seemed to like. The hospital still got sued for wrongful death, and in what I believe is a suicide.

It is my wish that we look at Prince as a more fully-fleshed- out human...removing stigma helps with this.


Study his music, lyrics, videos, films, live shows. Prince tells you everything you need to know. Also read Judith Hill’s interview with police.

Prince was interviewed on December 10, 2010 on NYC radio station 107.5. He stated: “The music pretty much speaks for me. I’m pretty open with my music, I always have been, so you’re going to know more about me through that, than me sitting down and talking.” He says this same thing to Matt Lauer in an interview on the Today show around the time he was inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. “I’m not so mysterious. I’m a pretty open book. People who know my music, I would say, know me.”

As a result of this experience, I may be a bit more clinical re: these 'taboo' topics. It is not my intent to come across as overly clinical and objective but to try to show that these conditions still carry alot of stigma.


Yes, there is stigma. But this is a Liebestod al Romeo and Juliette. Not a Kurt Cobain, Chris Cornell suicide.

From Wikipedia


"Liebestod" ([ˈliːbəsˌtoːt] German for "love death") is the title of the final, dramatic music from the 1859 opera Tristan und Isolde by Richard Wagner. It is the climactic end of the opera, as Isolde sings over Tristan's dead body.

When used as a literary term, Liebestod (from German Liebe, love and Tod, death) refers to the theme of erotic death or "love death", meaning the two lovers' consummation of their love in death or after death. Other two-sided examples include Pyramus and Thisbe, Romeo and Juliet, and to some degree Wuthering Heights. One-sided examples are Porphyria's Lover and The Sorrows of Young Werther. The joint suicide of Heinrich von Kleist and lover Henriette Vogel is often associated with the Liebestod


Prince was goofy over Denise Matthews. They could not be together in life. So, Prince followed her in death to be with her. That is he was saying throughout his music and in his suicide note.

That is why he picked April 15. The April anniversary of Denise Matthews death. When Judith Hill stopped the April 15 attempt, he chose the alternate date of April 21. The first day of the full moon that month. As in Under The Cherry Moon.

Judith Hill’s video for Back In Time is his goodbye letter to Judith and tells her and us why he left her. Denise got there first and he can’t forget her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL9CAFm0JQ

The ‘her’ in the lyrics is Denise Matthews. He also is showing in the imagery he is still with Judith spiritually. He hasn’t abandoned her. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars, like Russel Crowe at the end of Gladiator. But this one is a real-life artist.

Unfortunately, the police file documents reports of shredding paper and deleing computer files which I believe was more detail on the suicide note that Prince left. So, in my opinion, people around him, not artists, took it into their own hands to decide not to let the police, public or most importantly Judith Hill, who is taking undeserved public hits, know the truth behind Prince’s death. You have to wonder where their loyalties lie especially when you understand the ‘bombshells’ which I can’t talk about lest this post be deleted.

Please see below, my comments were directed to Morgaine, if there is any confusion.

(I was in nursing school for 3 years. I took pharmacology. I have given these drugs to patients in a clinical setting. My mother was also an RN. HUH? )

Yes, there is a definite degree of burnout dealing with addicts as there is often a level of manipulation that makes it difficult to negotiate with them.

I feel compassion for Prince, but I bet he wasn't easy.

[Edited 12/18/19 12:55pm]

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Reply #513 posted 12/18/19 3:05pm

Strive

Prince couldn't remember his lyrics...but he's referencing Under The Cherry Moon and turning every U into Vanity and creating insanely elaborate and obscure references for some spawling suicide note in his last couple days left on Earth? Really?

What's the significance of releasing Black Sweat from the last show and prepping the entire show for release and doing everything within his power to conceal his condition from the public? That doesn't fit with this theory.
Free the music, fire Michael Howe

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Reply #514 posted 12/18/19 3:14pm

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Here's a link to the DEA files.


https://thedeathofprincer...-dea-files



I've got all the files downloaded and saved to my old computer, I've just not transferred them over to my new one.


The Carver County links from Carver County have been deleted on their website.


If you go to the link above you will find quite a few things, this is Jay Corn's website and is a good starting point or to look back on as a reference.

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Reply #515 posted 12/18/19 3:19pm

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authorbest said:

I am one of the long-standing posters on the death investigation threads who put love and care into these threads.

But,I do know this, we both care alot about what happened with Prince or we would not be here 3.5 years later.


I’m not a long-standing poster but I have put a lot of time and love and care into my conclusions. The whole thing a giant Shakespearean Tragedy. And I can’t even tell you the full story including the “bombshells” or this post will be deleted.

I am also an RN (25+ yrs) and have given many of these drugs you seem to know so much about. Norco is extremely weak as is Vicodin. Please read more about pharmacology before you assert.


I was in nursing school for 3 years. I took pharmacology. I have given these drugs to patients in a clinical setting. My mother was also an RN.

Of course opiates make you feel good. He likely took them for physical pain and for emotional reasons as well. (at times). I have worked with countless addicts.


My mother was also on Norco for years for neck pain (you could hear her neck creak like two tree limbs rubbing together) and Percocet temporarily when she broke her ribs. I helped her setting up pills and cutting pills in half. I also had to help her with the side effect – constipation. I cannot even explain to how unpleasant this was in the last few years. When I read the Prince death investigation files it all came rushing back to me.

I have taken narcotics myself a few times in my life. (1) when I had my wisdom teeth pulled (2) when I broke off my two front teeth playing racquet ball and had to have root canals and caps put on (3) when I had extreme joint pain as a result of acute sarcoidosis (4) I had been getting migraines a few years back and my mom would give me half pills of her Norco to try and help (5) after the sarcoidosis, if I got a cold sometimes I would cough, cough, cough for months after. I’m not talking a little cough, I mean whole body, coughing up a lung type coughing, bothering others type coughing, so I have been prescribed a couple of times codeine cough syrup.

Other than the codeine cough syrup, which helped, I hated taking narcotics. I did not feel euphoria. Instead I felt sleepy and extremely nauseous, a few times leading to actual vomiting. While the narcotics took some of the edge off the pain it did not address the underlying issues. I noticed this most significantly with the joint pain with sarcoidosis. I found Tylenol and Aleve, prescription doses, addressed the underlying issues better taking the pain away and therefore I no longer need any pain medication.

I find it hard to understand how people become addicted because I did not. My mother did not. Therefore, I believe there is some physiological, genetic or extreme phycological component to addiction that is not easy to ascertain and address.

Some of the reasons I left nursing school was (1) you get a distorted view of the world – you see the worst cases over and over and you start to believe the whole world is that way. If you see a lot of addicts, you think all people on narcotics are addicts. Police officers also have this occupational hazard they see so much they start thinking everyone is a criminal and is lying. (2) the drugs and surgery treadmill dealing with chronic matters (3) having to document everything to prevent lawsuits. Reading the Moline IL hospital medical records in the Prince case brough this back to me. They pretty much did everything right. They crossed every T and dotted every I but Prince did not cooperate and refused any help other than IV fluids which he seemed to like. The hospital still got sued for wrongful death, and in what I believe is a suicide.

It is my wish that we look at Prince as a more fully-fleshed- out human...removing stigma helps with this.


Study his music, lyrics, videos, films, live shows. Prince tells you everything you need to know. Also read Judith Hill’s interview with police.

Prince was interviewed on December 10, 2010 on NYC radio station 107.5. He stated: “The music pretty much speaks for me. I’m pretty open with my music, I always have been, so you’re going to know more about me through that, than me sitting down and talking.” He says this same thing to Matt Lauer in an interview on the Today show around the time he was inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame in 2004. “I’m not so mysterious. I’m a pretty open book. People who know my music, I would say, know me.”

As a result of this experience, I may be a bit more clinical re: these 'taboo' topics. It is not my intent to come across as overly clinical and objective but to try to show that these conditions still carry alot of stigma.


Yes, there is stigma. But this is a Liebestod al Romeo and Juliette. Not a Kurt Cobain, Chris Cornell suicide.

From Wikipedia


"Liebestod" ([ˈliːbəsˌtoːt] German for "love death") is the title of the final, dramatic music from the 1859 opera Tristan und Isolde by Richard Wagner. It is the climactic end of the opera, as Isolde sings over Tristan's dead body.

When used as a literary term, Liebestod (from German Liebe, love and Tod, death) refers to the theme of erotic death or "love death", meaning the two lovers' consummation of their love in death or after death. Other two-sided examples include Pyramus and Thisbe, Romeo and Juliet, and to some degree Wuthering Heights. One-sided examples are Porphyria's Lover and The Sorrows of Young Werther. The joint suicide of Heinrich von Kleist and lover Henriette Vogel is often associated with the Liebestod


Prince was goofy over Denise Matthews. They could not be together in life. So, Prince followed her in death to be with her. That is he was saying throughout his music and in his suicide note.

That is why he picked April 15. The April anniversary of Denise Matthews death. When Judith Hill stopped the April 15 attempt, he chose the alternate date of April 21. The first day of the full moon that month. As in Under The Cherry Moon.

Judith Hill’s video for Back In Time is his goodbye letter to Judith and tells her and us why he left her. Denise got there first and he can’t forget her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL9CAFm0JQ

The ‘her’ in the lyrics is Denise Matthews. He also is showing in the imagery he is still with Judith spiritually. He hasn’t abandoned her. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars, like Russel Crowe at the end of Gladiator. But this one is a real-life artist.

Unfortunately, the police file documents reports of shredding paper and deleing computer files which I believe was more detail on the suicide note that Prince left. So, in my opinion, people around him, not artists, took it into their own hands to decide not to let the police, public or most importantly Judith Hill, who is taking undeserved public hits, know the truth behind Prince’s death. You have to wonder where their loyalties lie especially when you understand the ‘bombshells’ which I can’t talk about lest this post be deleted.

Would you please provide the link to the suicide note, or a photo of it? Thanks.

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Reply #516 posted 12/18/19 9:54pm

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Strive said:

Prince couldn't remember his lyrics...but he's referencing Under The Cherry Moon and turning every U into Vanity and creating insanely elaborate and obscure references for some spawling suicide note in his last couple days left on Earth? Really? What's the significance of releasing Black Sweat from the last show and prepping the entire show for release and doing everything within his power to conceal his condition from the public? That doesn't fit with this theory.

I don't agree with your premise that Prince could not remember his lyrics. However, given the amount of songs Prince had in his arsenal it would not be unusual for him to not remember all his lyrics to every song especially songs that he did not play live on a regular basis. That has nothing to do with mental decline, it is just the human condition. Further, Prince in his Piano and A Microphone Tour was playing snippets of songs, medleys and maybe a verse her or there from a song in the middle of paying another song. I know in my case, I have many lyrics memorized to my favorite songs. However, if you asked me to start with the second or third verse without staring from the beginning, I might have a problem remembering the lyrics because they are not played out in a way that I'm used to. So, if Prince had a lyrics aide on this tour, I would not be surprised. Your conclusion that he could not remember his lyrics is, I believe, wrong and harsh judgement. That being said, even if he could not remember the exact lyric to every song completely, I'm sure he had no doubt about what was the meaning and purpse in creating each song.

And when I reference Under The Cherry Moon I mean the film and not the song. The message of that film that he wrote and directed I'm sure was very clear in his mind. It may not be that way for fans but I'm sure it was for him.

'U' - he is not turning every 'U' into Vanity. 'U' is Denise Matthews/Vanity.

creating insanely elaborate and obscure references for some spawling suicide note in his last couple days left on Earth?

I assume you mean sprawling suicide note. I like that term. Thank you!

It wasn't a couple of days, but it is huge and in pieces. It was not a 'note' in a conventional suicide 'note' sense by writing it down on a piece of paper and explaining everything. (However, he may have done that. That is what I believe was destroyed in the shredding documents and computer file deleting noted in the police file.) It also was in his actions. It was fitting of a master artist.

[Edited 12/18/19 22:00pm]

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Reply #517 posted 12/18/19 10:08pm

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Would you please provide the link to the suicide note, or a photo of it? Thanks.

Photos are in the police file.

Lyrics are on line.

Movies you have to buy or rent. I

Instagram and Twitter accounts are online.

Videos are on You Tube

Watch Judith Hills video to Back In Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL9CAFm0JQ

Read Judith Hill's statment in the police file.

Read the police file.

Read any book you can find on Prince.

Think

Forget your preconcieved perceptions.

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Reply #518 posted 12/18/19 10:33pm

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See the source image

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #519 posted 12/18/19 10:54pm

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authorbest said:

Bobby Z. trying to offer a tip about drug use, and blaming the third eye girls.

Bobby Z. (if it was Bobby Z.) thinks there was cocaine use specifically, and he doesn't sound at all confident with the stories accuracy, since he heard it third hand. The idea Prince was upset Hannah had a baby doesn't jive. Hannah and Joshua Welton are devout Christians, and Prince was acting like a father figure type. It looked like the project had run it's course anyway, and he was already just incorporating 3eyeGirl sets like they were a sampler set. Judith Hill... I kinda feel like people need to link to the actually quotes and screen grabs instead of reading into her comments so wildly...but...she doesn't sound like she had a lot of answers, and she's still trying to figure it out too...and she also says she didn't have contact for gaps of time.

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Reply #520 posted 12/18/19 11:24pm

lavendardrumma
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Canada: Who was born there and spent the early part of her career in Toronto and Montreal. Oakland: Who lived in the Oakland area in recent years?

Why was Prince in Oakland? If you answer this question you know the reason.

Atlanta: Not sure but my theory is that it was a major setting for Gone With The Wind.

Uh.Well he was apparently tight with some Oakland figures (besides Van Jones and the Escovedo family), and Canada also gave him Manuela and Donna, plus he had a home there at one point. The fan idea that he was love stricken with Vanity and Sheila, and that Judith had a relationship with any of these people, is pretty fantastical, and I get why people are relating your posts to the conspiracists and fan fiction. I mean...Gone With the Wind? Really? Sure it wasn't Driving Miss Daisy, that was shot in Atlanta too. I do remember Sheila's comments, and remember thinking they sounded like she was hinting to something...and yet, they don't justify your matter of fact posts, or connect your dots. Same with Tyka's comments about him knowing he was going to die. The way you talked, I was expected flushed out theories not your creativity.

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Reply #521 posted 12/19/19 12:06am

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purplethunder3121 said:

See the source image


I love it!
Plato is a friend of mine!
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Reply #522 posted 12/19/19 12:08am

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lavendardrummachine said:



authorbest said:



Canada: Who was born there and spent the early part of her career in Toronto and Montreal. Oakland: Who lived in the Oakland area in recent years?


Why was Prince in Oakland? If you answer this question you know the reason.


Atlanta: Not sure but my theory is that it was a major setting for Gone With The Wind.




Uh.Well he was apparently tight with some Oakland figures (besides Van Jones and the Escovedo family), and Canada also gave him Manuela and Donna, plus he had a home there at one point. The fan idea that he was love stricken with Vanity and Sheila, and that Judith had a relationship with any of these people, is pretty fantastical, and I get why people are relating your posts to the conspiracists and fan fiction. I mean...Gone With the Wind? Really? Sure it wasn't Driving Miss Daisy, that was shot in Atlanta too. I do remember Sheila's comments, and remember thinking they sounded like she was hinting to something...and yet, they don't justify your matter of fact posts, or connect your dots. Same with Tyka's comments about him knowing he was going to die. The way you talked, I was expected flushed out theories not your creativity.

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Bobby Z. trying to offer a tip about drug use, and blaming the third eye girls.




Bobby Z. (if it was Bobby Z.) thinks there was cocaine use specifically, and he doesn't sound at all confident with the stories accuracy, since he heard it third hand. The idea Prince was upset Hannah had a baby doesn't jive. Hannah and Joshua Welton are devout Christians, and Prince was acting like a father figure type. It looked like the project had run it's course anyway, and he was already just incorporating 3eyeGirl sets like they were a sampler set. Judith Hill... I kinda feel like people need to link to the actually quotes and screen grabs instead of reading into her comments so wildly...but...she doesn't sound like she had a lot of answers, and she's still trying to figure it out too...and she also says she didn't have contract for gaps of time.


That Bobby Z line was not mine. I took that from some eles's post..
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Reply #524 posted 12/19/19 3:57am

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Nope. That's not good enough. There was no suicide note anywhere in the files. There was no photo of a suicide note either.

Why is it you can't show a link or a picture that shows us the suicide note? Why? Because it doesn't exist.

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Would you please provide the link to the suicide note, or a photo of it? Thanks.

Photos are in the police file.

Lyrics are on line.

Movies you have to buy or rent. I

Instagram and Twitter accounts are online.

Videos are on You Tube

Watch Judith Hills video to Back In Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puL9CAFm0JQ

Read Judith Hill's statment in the police file.

Read the police file.

Read any book you can find on Prince.

Think

Forget your preconcieved perceptions.

A MASK ISN'T TOO MUCH TO ASK!!
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