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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The relationship he's written about with his dad genuinely shocked me. From my extensive reading over the years etc I always thought they had a strained relationship, JL was borderline jealous of P's success etc. So, to hear of the polar opposite is both surprising but also [if true!] heartening.

As for his relationship with his mother...oooh lawdy she sounded like a fun person to be around.

The duality of Prince's Gemini is beautifully explained by him.

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Jesus....now this was the clip that just came back to me...John L Nelson..really does contradict P's story I think..assuming they reconcilled afterwards. Cringeworthy from P & Sharon.

https://www.youtube.com/w...e=youtu.be

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Hamad said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=1

Original thread from the org here. JL really does not come across well.....

Takes me to a computer article? Somehow I’m not if it’s the right link you intended. Yeah I remember that YouTube clip, I really loved watching him play/sing “Purple Rain” on the piano, it kinda reminds me just a little bit of stride piano of folks like Teddy Wilson. Interesting connection I just thought of, he was heavily influenced by Thelonious Monk, who himself cited Teddy Wilson & Art Tatum as great influences. I wonder if he recorded anything from his Prince Roger Trio days, would’ve been interesting to hear indeed.

Good observations. John Nelson was from Louisiana too, nothing but great piano players. Would love to hear some recordings from John's PRN band gigs, have also thought of that.

For some reason the org links rarely work. I started posting the title with the link so at least you can find it on the google search.

poppys said:

PURPLEIZED3121 posted that link.

Hamad said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

https://prince.org/msg/7/...?&pg=1

Original thread from the org here. JL really does not come across well.....

Takes me to a computer article? Somehow I’m not if it’s the right link you intended. Yeah I remember that YouTube clip, I really loved watching him play/sing “Purple Rain” on the piano, it kinda reminds me just a little bit of stride piano of folks like Teddy Wilson. Interesting connection I just thought of, he was heavily influenced by Thelonious Monk, who himself cited Teddy Wilson & Art Tatum as great influences. I wonder if he recorded anything from his Prince Roger Trio days, would’ve been interesting to hear indeed.

apologies, will hunt out the correct link.

Try this link:

https://www.youtube.com/w...yr-TaMi0gA

A very different picture...P would have been furious with them both.

to me Prince seemed to be tryin to be postive with what he wrote in the book..i coudnt detect any negativity

jfenster said:

to me Prince seemed to be tryin to be postive with what he wrote in the book..i coudnt detect any negativity

I think as he got older, he had a different perspective about his parents, and the choices they made when he was a child.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

jfenster said:

to me Prince seemed to be tryin to be postive with what he wrote in the book..i coudnt detect any negativity

I think as he got older, he had a different perspective about his parents, and the choices they made when he was a child.

totally agree. I am guessing that as we all saw he grew older & very much wiser & probably had a different take on their relationship. Glad he reconcilled it...first sign of this I guess was with Arboretum (link to unofficial upload deleted - l'ange bleu moderator)

Can we talk about Prince's sketching skills! Ahhh love that dude....bet he was such a good guy to be around when he was a young teen in fun mode!

#1 on The NY Times bestseller list. 💜

https://twitter.com/princ...81728?s=21

https://www.nytimes.com/b...zmCRr-xZZY

^^ Noice!

https://www.vogue.com/art...ty-memoirs

Vanilli said:

does anyone know how to get a copy with the purple ribbon bookmark? Picked up my copy. It says first edition but it is missing the bookmark. What the heck?

Didn't know it came with a bookmark.

Vanilli said:

does anyone know how to get a copy with the purple ribbon bookmark? Picked up my copy. It says first edition but it is missing the bookmark. What the heck?

Waterstones in the UK had a limited first run with purple pages and a purple bookmark. Last I checked the shelves were being replenished with the standard bookmark/white page version.

Has anyone else noticed (sorry if it's been discussed before) that photos of Owen were removed from the photo pages (in Part 2 of the book), most probably by Prince? At least in 3 cases Prince's own photo captions mention Owen where the photos are missing.
I wonder when did he remove the photos and why. Was it still about that case when Owen was still his manager and refused to run out and bring him a space heater or something?

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Kares said:

Has anyone else noticed (sorry if it's been discussed before) that photos of Owen were removed from the photo pages (in Part 2 of the book), most probably by Prince? At least in 3 cases Prince's own photo captions mention Owen where the photos are missing.
I wonder when did he remove the photos and why. Was it still about that case when Owen was still his manager and refused to run out and bring him a space heater or something?

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I may be wrong, but I think he may have heard that Owen did not really believe in him.

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Hamad said:

Touré has an article in the New York Times where he "reviews" several music bios. Interestingly, the article isn't available at the NYT site anymore, but it is still available in the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/w...-john.html

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Prince also describes violence in his home in THE BEAUTIFUL ONES (Spiegel & Grau, $30). “The sound of Ur parents fighting is chilling when U’re a child. If it happens 2 become physical, it can b soul-crushing. One night I remember hearing them arguing & it got physical. At some point my mother crashed in2 my bedroom and grabbed me. She was crying but managed a smile & said, ‘Tell Ur father 2 b nice 2 me.’” They divorced when he was 7.

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In ON TIME (Da Capo, $27), written with David Ritz, Morris Day admits that he was a stoner, saying, “Weed provided a filter that mellowed me out while intensifying the music.” He also notes that Prince was sober: “He didn’t need that extra creative boost. … He could get to that higher plateau without stimulants. … I also think Prince feared drugs. … Prince needed control at all times. He didn’t want his vision clouded or his mind altered.”

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Prince’s is by far the most eagerly anticipated of this crop of books. When news broke that he was writing his autobiography, there was an audible gasp from the culture: Finally! But, tragically, Prince died shortly after starting the process, so we see his reflections on his preteens and little else; Dan Piepenbring continued the project and writes about the experience in his introduction. It’s typical of Prince that this book gives us a glimpse of the real artist — but only a glimpse. [...]

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Prince’s book is so short, I read it in about 20 minutes. If he were not such a massive star, the publishing house surely would’ve rejected the manuscript for being far too small to do anything with. Instead, they filled the book with archival photos and handwritten pages, but it’s all too pithy for anyone but superfans to care about.

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Fortunately, Morris Day’s memoir arrives in the same month as his old friend’s. Day grew up a few blocks from Prince and played drums in his first band, Grand Central. The two remained close for decades. Day’s book has him in conversation with Prince’s ghost, arguing about how to tell the story, and gives us details about Prince that he never got to tell his memoirist. [...] Day has a front-row seat for the life of one of the greatest musicians of all time and his book is a worshipful telling of what Prince’s rise looked like from his vantage.

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Click the link for the full article.