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Sign O The Times / Dream Factory !

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Neversin said:

love2thenines2003 said:

Meh....and no 1982 Jerk Out....big disapointment!

They seemingly felt the need to leave the best material from that era off of the set... Half assed and insulting cash grab and everyone is falling for it... Neversin.

I really wish they would do a What Time Is It? deluxe instead

The outtakes from that album seem wonderful

they put about 3-4 of them on the 1999 deluxe

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It's Time 2 fix your clock

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The Walk
Wild & Loose
OneDayI'mGonnaBeSomebody
I Don't Want 2 Leave U
777-9311
Gigolos Get Lonely Too
Grace
Jerk Out
Colleen

Bold Generation
International Lover (6:35)*

The Rainbow Children is another I would like to see happen (if there are outtakes etc) I don't know much about the background recordings for this album. After 1998 what he recorded and for what get's really murky. I heard from someone on the Org before that some song that ended up on LotusFlow3r might have been outtakes.

OldFriends4Sale said:

For You

I love the beginnings of Prince's recording career

1. For You

2. In Love

3. Soft And Wet

4. Crazy You

5. Just As Long As We're Together

6. Baby

7. My Love Is Forever

8. So Blue

9. I'm Yours

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Now we're talking. Nicely laid out. I admire your enthusiasm.

rdhull said:

I wish they would consider For You. Its really low fi but the song craftmanship is excellent. Sure, it's before he became weird but its a great Joni influenced album.

Oh yes! that was such a great debut album. I was listening to his audition song "We Can Work It Out" the other day and it blew my mind all over again, there's so much attitude and personality in the songs that haven't made it to the album such as "Make it through the storm", "Wouldn't U Love to Love"(original) and the jazz instrumental sessions he did. Also, I'm curious to see if Patrice Rushen recorded any jam sessions with him in that time beyond the involvement of "Baby". And speaking of the Joni influence, I hope the "Leaving for New York" gets remastered.

Vannormal said:

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Sign O The Times / Dream Factory !

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:40am]

I would prefer a

Dream Factory June configuration (with all the other outtakes)

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and release Camille with other (sped up vocalled songs) U Got the Look, Cosmic Day Scarlett Pussy and a few others

OldFriends4Sale said:

Neversin said:

love2thenines2003 said: They seemingly felt the need to leave the best material from that era off of the set... Half assed and insulting cash grab and everyone is falling for it... Neversin.

I really wish they would do a What Time Is It? deluxe instead

The outtakes from that album seem wonderful

they put about 3-4 of them on the 1999 deluxe

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It's Time 2 fix your clock

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The Walk
Wild & Loose
OneDayI'mGonnaBeSomebody
I Don't Want 2 Leave U
777-9311
Gigolos Get Lonely Too
Grace
Jerk Out
Colleen

Bold Generation
International Lover (6:35)*

A "Triple Threat" boxset is the only reasonable thing to do with "1999", "What Time Is It?" and "Vanity 6"...
Complete with all outtakes, alternate versions, non-fade out versions (like for example his biggest hit of the album "Little Red Corvette", that one isn't even on there but "How Come U Don't Call Me?" is?!) Prince versions of the the associated artists tracks from that era... And, of course, a complete "Triple Threat" show with Vanity 6, The Time and Prince... There are at least 2 complete multicam "pro shots" in his vault...
But no, they put out this amateuristic shit...
Let's hope this is only because WBR is desperate to cash in before 2021 and after that a real ultimate set is released... Preferably complemented with an online repository with more live gigs, rehearsals, soundchecks and studio jams etc...

Neversin.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Vannormal said:

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Sign O The Times / Dream Factory !

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[Edited 9/13/19 6:40am]

I would prefer a

Dream Factory June configuration (with all the other outtakes)

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and release Camille with other (sped up vocalled songs) U Got the Look, Cosmic Day Scarlett Pussy and a few others

Good luck with that... Sony and WBR won't play nice...

Neversin.

OK, so I knocked this up and haven't had time to check running times, so this may need a little altering to get everything to fit, but I reckon this works for the most part...

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Sign 'O' The Times (Super Deluxe)

Disc 1: Crystal Ball I
Rebirth Of The Flesh
Play In The Sunshine
Housequake
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker
It
Starfish And Coffee
Slow Love
Hot Thing
Crystal Ball
If I Was Your Girlfriend
Rockhard In A Funky Place

Disc 2: Crystal Ball II
The Ball
Joy In Repetition
Strange Relationship
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man
Shockadelica
Good Love
Forever In My Life
Sign O' The Times
The Cross
It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night
Adore (Until The End Of Time)

Disc 3: The Singles
Sign O' The Times (Edit) (3:42)
La, La, La, He, He, Hee (3:21)
If I Was Your Girlfriend (Edit) (3:46)
Shockadelica (3:30)
U Got The Look (3:46)
Housequake (Edit) (3:24)
Hot Thing (Edit) (3:40)
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Fade) (3:39)
Feel U Up (3:44)
La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) (10:32)
U Got The Look (Long Look) (6:45)
Housequake (7 Minutes MoQuake) (7:15)
Hot Thing (Extended Remix) (8:32)
Hot Thing (Dub Version) (6:53)
Feel U Up (Long Stroke)
The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker (Extended Version)

Disc 4: The Dream Factory Sessions
Visions
Dream Factory
It's A Wonderful Day
Train
Big Tall Wall
And That Says What?
Strange Relationship*
Teacher, Teacher
Interlude
In A Large Room With No Light
Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A
Sexual Suicide
Crystal Ball
Power Fantastic
Last Heart
Witness 4 The Prosecution
Movie Star
A Place In Heaven (Lisa’s Vocal)
All My Dreams

Disc 5: The Vault Part 1 (May 1986 - Sep 1986)
Splash '86
Baby Go Go
Get On Up
Eggplant
Everybody Wants What They Don't Got
Coco Boys
Adonis and Batsheeba
Joy in Repetition (unsegued)
Soulpsychodelicide '86
Data Bank
Girl 'O' My Dreams
Can't Stop This Feeling I Got
We Can Funk

Disc 6: The Vault Part 2 (Sep 1986 - Feb 1987)
When The Dawn Of The Morning Comes
Crucial (Eric Leeds mix)
Witness 4 The Prosecution (new recording)
Telepathy
Emotional Pump
Eternity
Cosmic Day
Crucial
Walkin' In Glory
Housequake (Razormaid Remix)
3 Nigs Watchin' A Kung Fu Movie
101
Wally

Disc 7: The Black Album
Le Grind
Cindy C.
Dead On It
When 2 R In Love
Bob George
Superfunkycalifragisexy
2 Nigs United 4 West Compton
Rockhard In A Funky Place

Disc 8: Sign O' The Times Live (France or Netherlands)

Disc 9: Sign O The Times Concert Movie (DVD)

[Edited 9/13/19 9:00am]

RODSERLING said:

Hamad said:

^^Great tracklist

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Thank you God, I hope the do SOTT soon.

VaultCurator said:

"The Black Album" needs its own deluxe edition and shouldn't be buried on a "Sign "O" The Times" set... There are enough alternate/uncut versions, outtakes and studio jams for that album to make a decent multi disc set...

Neversin.

Neversin said:

"The Black Album" needs its own deluxe edition and shouldn't be buried on a "Sign "O" The Times" set... There are enough alternate/uncut versions, outtakes and studio jams for that album to make a decent multi disc set...

Neversin.

I’m only aware of the alternate versions of “Superfunkycalifragisexy” - “When 2 R In Love ft. Eric Leeds” (BTW shouldn’t it belong on a Lovesexy Deluxe?) and Walkin’ In Glory (gospel answer to “Bob George”).

There’s actually more than that and enough to make a Deluxe edition of “The Black Album”?

Neversin said:

"The Black Album" needs its own deluxe edition and shouldn't be buried on a "Sign "O" The Times" set... There are enough alternate/uncut versions, outtakes and studio jams for that album to make a decent multi disc set...

Neversin.

I agree, it stands alone. And to be able to present photos taken for the album, and include all the information specifically about the aborted album would be wonderful.

It was clear that they were moving in that visual direction by November 1987

jaypotton said:

Interesting idea, to make a black album/lovesexy mix. That might work, now that I think about it. It also allows a space to put some of the spare tracks from 87 somewhere else, as Sign Of The Times will max out what's possible (although, to add to that tracklist, it needs the Prince vocal version of Place In Heaven somewhere as well).

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Between Parade deluxe, Sign Of the Times deluxe (including Crystal Ball, Camille and Dream Factory) and The Black Album/Lovesexy deluxe, it'll be a good time for us. All can include a great liveshow as well.

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It might be an idea to take Dream Factory though, and add it to the Parade deluxe, instead of Sign Of The Times. Sure, some tracks might overlap, but it has a lot of different versions and it is, in a way, the swan song of the Revolution, so it might fit better there. Parade can tell the story of how the Revolution became more than just the band to let Prince be who he wanted to be, but being more collaborative, with experiments all over the place until Prince somehow felt the need to take control again, sending some people away from him, so as to make it possible for him to take new paths that were just his. Sign Of The Times can then tell the story of Prince defining himself again, starting over after the Revolution.

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The Black Album/Lovesexy can then tell the story of his first (of many) spiritual awakenings and insistance that the record company should not be listened to, which will give a nice leitmotif for the deluxe versions coming after.

VaultCurator said:

OK, so I knocked this up and haven't had time to check running times, so this may need a little altering to get everything to fit, but I reckon this works for the most part...

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Sign 'O' The Times (Super Deluxe)


Disc 3: The Singles

La, La, La, He, He, Hee (3:21)

The full version of La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) is the definitive version. The song really just starts to get going when the single version fades out. After that it's a musical tour de force.

Lovesexy with Rave 89 as a bonus disc would be nice.

mediumdry said:

Whatever puts 'In A Large Room With No Light' into my sweaty hands the soonest.

Neversin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I would prefer a

Dream Factory June configuration (with all the other outtakes)

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and release Camille with other (sped up vocalled songs) U Got the Look, Cosmic Day Scarlett Pussy and a few others

Good luck with that... Sony and WBR won't play nice...

Neversin.

That's interesting, I never considered that before. So logically there won't be an expanded SOTT/Dream Factory/Crystal Ball until 2021 at the earliest then.

massing said:

Whatever puts 'In A Large Room With No Light' into my sweaty hands the soonest.

LOL I my brother heard that one for the first time Thursday, ...the look on his face

I'd like to have a Black Album remastered.

Neversin said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I really wish they would do a What Time Is It? deluxe instead

The outtakes from that album seem wonderful

they put about 3-4 of them on the 1999 deluxe

.

It's Time 2 fix your clock

.

The Walk
Wild & Loose
OneDayI'mGonnaBeSomebody
I Don't Want 2 Leave U
777-9311
Gigolos Get Lonely Too
Grace
Jerk Out
Colleen

Bold Generation
International Lover (6:35)*

A "Triple Threat" boxset is the only reasonable thing to do with "1999", "What Time Is It?" and "Vanity 6"...
Complete with all outtakes, alternate versions, non-fade out versions (like for example his biggest hit of the album "Little Red Corvette", that one isn't even on there but "How Come U Don't Call Me?" is?!) Prince versions of the the associated artists tracks from that era... And, of course, a complete "Triple Threat" show with Vanity 6, The Time and Prince... There are at least 2 complete multicam "pro shots" in his vault...
But no, they put out this amateuristic shit...
Let's hope this is only because WBR is desperate to cash in before 2021 and after that a real ultimate set is released... Preferably complemented with an online repository with more live gigs, rehearsals, soundchecks and studio jams etc...

Neversin.

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Thank you!! Someone finally said it! The biggest reason I wanted the 1999 Deluxe was because I thought it would have had V6 and The Times outtakes and shows. THEY COULD HAVE GLADLY RIPPED ME OFF FOR THAT... This feels incomplete.

None.

I only care for unreleased material that isn't heard before. Don't care if it's 'under toilet pot' sound quality.

VaultCurator said:

lurker316 said:

I'm with you 100%.

Was Roadhouse Garden also from that time period?

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Hi Lurker

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If you're talking about the song Roadhouse Garden, I believe that was recorded in the period between the Purple Rain album being complete and it's release. Hence it being considered a Purple Rain era track.

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However, if you're talking about the Roadhouse Garden album that Prince was considering releasing around 1998/1999, that was meant to be a compilation of Revolution era tracks that spanned between Purple Rain and Dream Factory, so 1983-1986.

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Since some of the songs rumoured to have been included on RG were Our Destiny, Roadhouse Garden & Wonderful Ass it’s unlikely to come out now since those came out on Purple Rain deluxe.

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These new Super deluxe editions will probably cover everything considered for Roadhouse eventually.

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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I knew he'd considered releasing the album in the late '90s, but I thought it was something he'd also considered releasing in the '80s around the time of Dream Factory.