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Reply #630 posted 09/16/19 9:27am

eyewishuheaven

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Strive said:

Dandroppedadime said:

Just listening to New Power Generation (the song) and I'm thinking is it the same basic tracks as Bold Generation? he even says "we got to rearrange" in the song (one of the other songs on 1999 Deluxe). Maybe something similar to We Can Fuck with the same basic tracks but overdubbed into an 'almost' different song. It'll be interesting to hear nevertheless!

[Edited 9/16/19 5:34am]

Michael Howe: I don’t believe this ever trickled out into the fan community, and really is the only example of something on the entire set of expanded body of work that we had to source from a cassette rough mix, because there was literally no other existing version. Even a two-inch [reel] was recorded over, so we didn’t even have a trace of what the original track was, but we did find a cassette rough mix of it and made it as sonically appealing as we possibly could, given the limitations, but that’s the kind of forensic approach that we tried to take. I am virtually certain it was initially intended for The Time and obviously never ended up getting released as it currently exists, and turned into the song ‘New Power Generation’, which is something that ended up on Graffiti Bridge I guess, but this is a much more organic sort of approach I would say.


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

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Reply #631 posted 09/16/19 9:40am

RODSERLING

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RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:



I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).



The Black album is out print since 25 years, and Is apparently included neither in the new WB deal, nor in the Sony deal, and wasn't even included in the Universal deal. . The rape lyrics is objectively a good reason to not release this song, in this "me too era". . Causing voluntarily some huge controversy for an artist that couldn't even defend himself since he is dead, would have devastating effects that couldn't be repaired. . The analogy that someone here made with the documentary against MJ is a good one. .


All the songs are readily available via whatever means to be scrutinized, if it would be so harmful in this #Me Too era it would have been a problem already.
Everyone famous was put under a loop when that whole #Me Too shit began, inlcuding Prince, and nobody said anything about his lyrical content. If they would then they would have to look into a huge pile of 90's to current Hip Hop for more deplorable stuff or even books. I think (or hope) these #Me Too people can distinguish actual rape accounts from fictional lyrics, as if Prince would really threaten to rape someone and sing about it lol I truly hope these #Me Too people aren't that dumb, and considering Prince hasn't been blamed of such things even though a lot of people and, I wouldn't doubt also #ME Too supporters, have heard these lyrics, especially after he died, I highly doubt he would ever be blamed just for his lyrics.



If you had to rule the prince business, would you seriously take the risk?
There is a difference between release the song in an event boxset with a pristine sound, and an obscure bootleg, that as a fan, I didn't even care to listen.
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But if it is release officially, every specialized media would talk about it, and would focus on it
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I m not saying this is a good journalism, but that's the logical today
[Edited 9/16/19 9:42am]
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Reply #632 posted 09/16/19 11:30am

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eyewishuheaven said:

Strive said:

Dandroppedadime said:


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

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Reply #633 posted 09/16/19 11:43am

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BartVanHemelen said:

eyewishuheaven said:


A cynical part of me always wondered if Prince was courting Pepsi-Cola with 'New Power Generation'. I'm relieved to learn that that was never the case.

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http://www.princevault.co...=Coca-Cola


Well, I'll be! At least he picked the better of the two. lol

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Reply #634 posted 09/16/19 12:01pm

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Just ordered mine on vinyl. Can't wait!!!

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Reply #635 posted 09/16/19 1:52pm

Gustavm

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

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Reply #636 posted 09/16/19 2:02pm

mushmackalenta

I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.
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Reply #637 posted 09/16/19 2:06pm

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Gustavm said:

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

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Hi Gustavm,

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According to https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/ all sets will be on black vinyl except for the 2LP edition which will be purple.

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The CD edition will include a smaller 48pp perfect bound booklet that will contain all of the track notes present in the vinyl version. It doesn’t state specifically if all the content will be the same, but I’m assuming it’s just a smaller version of the vinyl booklet.

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Reply #638 posted 09/16/19 2:10pm

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mushmackalenta said:

I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.

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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.

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Reply #639 posted 09/16/19 4:58pm

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VaultCurator said:



mushmackalenta said:


I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.


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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.


Basically, it’s being released on “Black Friday”, which is the first day of the Christmas shopping season in the USA. It’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, which the 4th Thursday in Nov.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #640 posted 09/16/19 5:02pm

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rdhull said:



controversy99 said:


All I know baby is what I see is good ... How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore (take 2) —- yes, I’m excited for that . Don’t need no refer, don’t need cocaine ... 1999 Deluxe should do the same to my brain. And I’ll get high, so high, in November. —- yaaass! . Darlin. It appears to me. ... International Lover. I hope you are an acoustic piano version . Turn it up! Turn it up baby! ... that’s what I’m planning to do. . I am definitely looking forward to this.

I agree with this post, and its funny.


Glad you enjoyed it! I tried to keep it fun. 😀
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Reply #641 posted 09/16/19 6:02pm

Gustavm

VaultCurator said:

Gustavm said:

Can somebody clarify a couple of things for me?

1. Will the super deluxe vinyl set be on purple vinyl?

2. Will the super deluxe CD set have all the same booklets as the vinyl?

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Hi Gustavm,

.

According to https://www.superdeluxeed...-material/ all sets will be on black vinyl except for the 2LP edition which will be purple.

.

The CD edition will include a smaller 48pp perfect bound booklet that will contain all of the track notes present in the vinyl version. It doesn’t state specifically if all the content will be the same, but I’m assuming it’s just a smaller version of the vinyl booklet.

Thanks!

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Reply #642 posted 09/16/19 6:25pm

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controversy99 said:

VaultCurator said:

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Hi there.

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According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.

Basically, it’s being released on “Black Friday”, which is the first day of the Christmas shopping season in the USA. It’s the day after our thanksgiving holiday, which the 4th Thursday in Nov.

yeah I mentioned that and someone pretty much said I was wrong that shops would refuse to stock it! (based on a 4 year old article)

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Reply #643 posted 09/16/19 9:14pm

mushmackalenta

VaultCurator said:



mushmackalenta said:


I keep seeing the 15th as release date for the CD and 29th for the vinyl set.

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Hi there.


.


According to https://www.prince.com/article/1999, the release date is the 29th November across all formats. Before the official announcement the 15th was mistakenly rumoured as the release date. Some outlets seemed to have run with it.



Thanks. I was hoping the release date was the same for both as I plan on getting the vinyl set.
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Reply #644 posted 09/17/19 12:12am

JorisE73

dodger said:

JorisE73 said:


I don't see how the rape lyrics could. The Black Album was released to little no controversy (he shoots at cops, threatnes to slap and kill his woman, terrorizes a supermodel, drinking blood, tying people to chairs and scare them).

Seriously? I'm stating the obvious but those lyrics in today's day and age would be a big no. Same for Lust U Always. Personally I wish they both were included but you can understand why the powers that be chose otherwise.

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Mathieu Bitton said similar on Twitter.

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As for the Dez 'playful dis;' I cannot see how that would be an issue. It would even be a good talking point and anecdote for Dez etc to discuss in promo


Yes seriously. What's next, burning books for mentioning words people don't like?!

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Reply #645 posted 09/17/19 12:14am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:


All the songs are readily available via whatever means to be scrutinized, if it would be so harmful in this #Me Too era it would have been a problem already.
Everyone famous was put under a loop when that whole #Me Too shit began, inlcuding Prince, and nobody said anything about his lyrical content. If they would then they would have to look into a huge pile of 90's to current Hip Hop for more deplorable stuff or even books. I think (or hope) these #Me Too people can distinguish actual rape accounts from fictional lyrics, as if Prince would really threaten to rape someone and sing about it lol I truly hope these #Me Too people aren't that dumb, and considering Prince hasn't been blamed of such things even though a lot of people and, I wouldn't doubt also #ME Too supporters, have heard these lyrics, especially after he died, I highly doubt he would ever be blamed just for his lyrics.

If you had to rule the prince business, would you seriously take the risk? There is a difference between release the song in an event boxset with a pristine sound, and an obscure bootleg, that as a fan, I didn't even care to listen. . But if it is release officially, every specialized media would talk about it, and would focus on it . I m not saying this is a good journalism, but that's the logical today [Edited 9/16/19 9:42am]


Of course I would, this is Prince we're talking about. Prince's whole schtick was shock and controversy.

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Reply #646 posted 09/17/19 12:42am

SoulAlive

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[Edited 9/17/19 0:53am]

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Reply #647 posted 09/17/19 2:04am

dodger

JorisE73 said:

dodger said:

Seriously? I'm stating the obvious but those lyrics in today's day and age would be a big no. Same for Lust U Always. Personally I wish they both were included but you can understand why the powers that be chose otherwise.

.

Mathieu Bitton said similar on Twitter.

.

As for the Dez 'playful dis;' I cannot see how that would be an issue. It would even be a good talking point and anecdote for Dez etc to discuss in promo


Yes seriously. What's next, burning books for mentioning words people don't like?!

I agree it's ridiculous but it's the way it is now. My 12 year old daugther constantly accuses me of being offensive in one way or another. 'That's racist/sexist/stereo-typing' is all I get but kids are being told this in school and social media.

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In light of Sinead O'Connor's latest accusations though I guess the estate, from a business point of view, are glad they did not include these tracks. You can imagine the press running with the Prince rape lyrics and woman beater stories.

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Reply #648 posted 09/17/19 3:12am

udo

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dodger said:

My 12 year old daugther constantly accuses me of being offensive in one way or another.

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Act now:

Please explain her that saying stuff about the shape of things is weak.

She should be able (sooon...) to discern between the shape of things and the content of the things that are communicated.

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How many more days until that box set?

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Reply #649 posted 09/17/19 8:39am

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Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

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Reply #650 posted 09/17/19 9:46am

udo

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Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

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Wow!

You must be kinda the completist type? lol

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Reply #651 posted 09/17/19 10:54am

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djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol


meanwhile, some of us mere mortals are still contemplating if we can justify the expense of the CD box for ourselves lol



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Reply #652 posted 09/17/19 11:39am

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IstenSzek said:

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol


meanwhile, some of us mere mortals are still contemplating if we can justify the expense of the CD box for ourselves lol



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Reply #653 posted 09/17/19 11:56am

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udo said:

djdaffy1227 said:

Welp I finally did it. I pre-ordered the Deluxe CD version, as well as the the 2LP, 4LP and 10LP versions. Now if the Estate could just slow down a tad, my bank account would appreciate it lol

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Wow!

You must be kinda the completist type? lol

Unfortunately, yep lol

The guy who owns the record shop near me Private Messaged me on Facebook and said if I wanted him to order all three LP sets he would hold them for me until I can pay them off. So I am DJing an event this weekend and will just give him the money I make there, I will still have a little money left over. biggrin

The CD I ordered off Wal*Mart's website. It was the cheapest I found onine.

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Reply #654 posted 09/17/19 2:47pm

SoulAlive

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too eek I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.

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Reply #655 posted 09/17/19 3:51pm

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SoulAlive said:

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too eek I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.



Was thinking the same but decided to get both super deluxe sets plus the limited 2 lp purple vinyl set. 1999 is the album that made me a fan in 1982.
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Reply #656 posted 09/17/19 3:52pm

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SoulAlive said:

I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe CD box,but I really want the vinyl version too eek I never buy two versions of the same set,but I just might in this case.


I'm going to get both for sure. It's my favorite album ever and I can't help but have both! The stupid completionist in me is wondering about getting all of the sets, even the smaller ones. lol

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Reply #657 posted 09/17/19 3:56pm

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"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

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Reply #658 posted 09/17/19 4:16pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

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Reply #659 posted 09/17/19 4:28pm

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soladeo1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

"Bold Generation" is said to be an early version of "New Power Generation" and it contains the word "Rearrange" which is another song on this set... I do not think it is a coincidence.

Lay down your funky weapon, come join us on the floor
Making love and music's the only things worth fighting for...


We are the Bold Generation, we want to change the world
The only thing that's in our way is you
Your old fashioned music, your old ideas
We're sick and tired of you telling us what to do!!!

I hope it is not that close...

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