Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.

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RODSERLING said:

Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.

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Me watching that 1999 live video

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Just watched the 8:08 minuts version of '1999' from the DVD on ...

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https://youtu.be/udkRI514KSI

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"On December 29, 1982, Prince was six weeks into his 1999 Tour and on the cusp of becoming a global superstar. Filmed at the Summit in Houston, the entire performance will be available on DVD as part of the #Prince1999 Super Deluxe Edition."

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RODSERLING said:

Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.

If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD.

djThunderfunk said:

RODSERLING said:

Ouch. The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure. Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.

If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD.

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Exactly ! ! !

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And by the way, Prince just filmed most of his show for own personal use.

IF he had the intention of releasing stuff, he would've used better equipment and crew, obviously.

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Be happy we have these VHS video quality of these 36/37 year old concerts, nearly ALL OF HIS LIVE SHOWS AND REHEARSALS are filmed. Isn't that already amazing in the first place ?!

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I'm already happy if we get to see 1% of it all !

Be happy too.

Peace.

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djThunderfunk said:

Vannormal said:

djThunderfunk said:

If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD.

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Exactly ! ! !

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And by the way, Prince just filmed most of his show for own personal use.

IF he had the intention of releasing stuff, he would've used better equipment and crew, obviously.

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This is a PRO shot show with multiple cameras. This was obviously filmed for some kind of release, and thus at the time there must have been a professional recording of it.

RODSERLING said:

djThunderfunk said:

If you remaster VHS, it looks like... VHS!!! There is NO PROCESS that will make VHS look like film or HD.

Not if you have the original tapes. What you put on VHS are the original tapes, the original source. . There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. . So if you believe that none of 1999 Prince concert were filmed on tapes, including this one, that's your choice. . WB just didn't locate the tapes, or didn't bother to remaster them. .

"Orignal tapes"? What kind of "original tapes" are you talking about? AFAIK, the "original tapes" ARE VHS. The reason that many concerts filmed in the 60s & 70s can be remastered in HD, is because they were FILMED... on FILM. Film is higher resolution than VHS and perfect for HD remaster. Shows that were originally recorded on VHS, like most of Prince's, will never, ever have an HD look. The reason Prince was able to film all of his shows, is because of the low expense of recording with VHS. Filming every show on FILM would have been too expensive, even for Prince.

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RODSERLING said:

There are many HD releases of concert filmed in the 60's/70's. .

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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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Vannormal said:

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I wonder why they didn't contacted the original THEN bandmembers of The Revolution for this package ?

They toured with him for at least 2 months, etc...

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I'm sure BOBBY Z has a lot of inside information on this,

not to mention Lisa, Dr. Fink, Dez, even Wendy at some level.

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Sort of a misser ?

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Money ?

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yeah, as opposed to the total random (at least to me) inclusion of liner notes by Duff from Guns n Roses

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BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Because they were filmed ON FILM. Holy crap, do we need to go through this nonsense over and over again?

I know very well that for HD you have to shoot on film.

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No you don't.

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To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense.

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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An expanded version of the list of Amazon links I posted previously:

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Moonbeam said:

This gives me hope that it will happen as Militant has come through before.

Hope I don't get crapped on for this, but I recently re-did my all time favorite albums list and wrote about the personal impact each of the top 25 had on me. 1999 is my all-time favorite, so needless to say, I'd be incredibly excited if this came to be. Here's what I wrote:

#1: Prince - 1999 (1982)

Ordering this top 25 has been very difficult. I've actually changed the order of the remaining albums a few times, making this exercise feel a bit like Album Survivor. That said, there was never any doubt that 1999 would be my #1. The way it has imprinted itself on my soul blows everything else away.

When I first heard Prince in 1989, I encountered some of his earlier singles through music videos during days-long MTV video marathons where they would play several videos from tons of artists. In this way I discovered the magic of songs like "When Doves Cry", "Let's Go Crazy", "Raspberry Beret", "Kiss", "U Got the Look", and "Alphabet St.". But it was "1999" that hooked me. The opening fanfare of the synths immediately grabbed my attention, soon joined by that first Earth-shattering rumble of the Linn 1 drum machine, and then exploded into a funk bonanza with the delectable bass and guitar licks. The way it wedded the neon of synths with the irresistible gravitational pull of funk left me completely mesmerised, connecting to the deepest part of me. It sounded so massive, an unconquerable force of nature that unleashed unfathomable joy and perpetual motion all at once, tapping into some unlocked quintessence of me later joined by The Gap Band's "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" and Stevie Wonder's "My Eyes Don't Cry".

I started to buy music that year after my parents bought me a cassette player. I quickly bought a BackTrax cassette single featuring "1999" and "Little Red Corvette", another herculean song which used its synths so differently, ebbing and flowing with cinematic warmth before kicking into pop/rock immortality. I played it over and over until I eventually bought a cassette of the whole album, and thus began my decades-long obsession with this album. Actually, the word "album" doesn't cut it, as 1999 feels like an entire world unto itself. Indeed, the songs felt like they were conceived or hatched or unearthed in an isolated lab, cracking open new dimensions that melded sounds and images and all sorts of emotions into a sort of primal omnipresence.

Every single song ingrained itself into my every fiber. I discovered with delight that "1999" offered even more thrills than the sub 4-minute single version I knew and loved, opening with a robotic god-like voice announcing its desire for the listener to have fun before the rumbles of the Linn 1 deliver just that, activating the galactic motion of the thing for over 6 minutes of extended revelry. "Little Red Corvette" was improved with its extended pyrotechnics as well, while "Delirious" was an immediate hit for me with its squeaking synths amplifying a delightful zaniness. "Let's Pretend We're Married" paired Hi-NRG relentlessness with wanton desire in pulsating bursts of megavoltage. "D.M.S.R." was a call to arms for revellers of all sorts, with sassy, brassy synths prancing atop lethal slap bass licks guaranteed to shake and quake a crowd. The synths in "Automatic" were so singularly captivating, transmitting an alien glow equal parts eerie and irresistible. Both "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)", with its fractured nightmarish magma of scalding synths, frenzied Linn drum patterns, and primordial shrieks as well as "Free" with its anthemic fireworks ignited my emotions. "Lady Cab Driver" blended blistering rock volcanism with thumping funk rhythms, and "All the Critics Love U in New York" convulsed with such a galvanizing freakiness that my face contorted inexorably to the rhythm of its hyperfunkplasma. And the swansong ballad "International Lover" ended the voyage with decadent verve.

1999 engaged me on all levels - it sparked my imagination, burned deep within my soul, and willed me to dance as if by remote control. The purple neon futuresynth soundscape that ties the album together saw my awestruck wonder extend to seemingly limitless heights. Most of the songs stretched to 6, 7, 8, or 9 minutes, but I felt they could go on forever, drowning each corner of my being in succulent splashes of serotonin. More than that, 1999 emboldened me to remain true to myself. In Prince, I had found a hero - this 5'3" titan of a man raised his freak flag so unapologetically high for all to see. At 10 years old, I had begun to feel like I didn't quite fit in, but 1999 helped to instill within me an insistence that I would not, could not change who I was at my core. If Prince could overcome the family troubles that saw him leave home at 12 as well as God-knows-what harassment due to his race, height, and comfort with his feminine side to release something so unrelentingly badass, I could face my troubles headfirst as well. In this way I felt not only permission, but a DUTY to be myself when I played the album. I had a very strong sense of who I was, and with 1999 I had a reliable way to reconnect with my sense of self when times got hard. If I needed confidence, I could blast "1999" or "D.M.S.R." to pep myself up. When I felt heartbreak or loneliness, I could lose myself in the guttural wails of "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)" to exorcise those demons. If I felt like I was too weird for the world, I could play "Automatic" or "All the Critics Love U in New York" and feel encouraged to not only accept, but celebrate the quirks that made me… me.

I became a bit of a "purple evangelist", unable to help myself from proselytising about the wonders of Prince and his music. I've bought dozens of copies of 1999 over the years, both for myself and as gifts to others, even strangers who overheard it playing at a drive-thru window. It became a part of my identity, and my resultant Prince fandom changed my life in major ways, introducing me to dozens of friends, and eventually, the love of my life. I wouldn't have met my wife Tracy without Prince. I wouldn't have moved to Australia and started my career as a university academic without Prince. I wouldn't have my son without Prince. In Prince, I found not only an identity to help guide me throughout my childhood and adolescence, but a unique map to my wife, my new home country, and an entirely new life for me. And it was the opening rumble of "1999" that opened the door.

As such, as an album 1999 is the Alpha and the Omega for me. It was on 1999 that the peak of Prince's hunger met the peak of his vision and the peak of his ambition, creating the most vibrant soundscape of any album ever made. It is a 70 minute symphony of neon purple lasers illuminating a pitch black sky that will thrill and amaze me until the day I die. The wails of "Something in the Water" still go right through my core, that drum machine rumble in "1999" still moves with seismic thunder, the alien synthscape of "Automatic" still leaves me breathless, the twisted funk of "All the Critics in New York" still ignites wild fits of dancing in me, the propulsion of "Let's Pretend We're Married" still inhabits me with each pulse, the punishing bass and sassy synth of "D.M.S.R." still get me moving thousands of listens later.

It creates the most vivid pictures in my mind. I mean look at those worlds on the cover art that he drew! Prince made those worlds come to life in such a visual, visceral way. The ladder in the E leading up to the red staircase that climbs into the clouds in particular is so striking. And the guy isn't climbing the stairs as much as he is GROOVING his way up them. If I could think of one image of what Prince's music can do, it would be this. If "everybody's looking for the ladder" as Prince would later sing, I found mine in 1999.

Top 3 songs:

"Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)"
"1999"
"All the Critics Love U in New York"

Full review here

Dude that is some article you wrote!

BartVanHemelen said:

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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What a dush you are. You don't know what film is. You also ignore that many shos from that era were shot on film( including the live at first avenue 83). You also ignore completely that WB actually had the choice between releasing a HD transfer of a pristine picture VS releasing a concert with a crappy picture. . But keep believing if you want that WB could only release this live, on dvd, with this low quality.

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Are you SURE that show was recorded on film? I mean, do you have a source?

Film is *really* expensive.

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Yes. Same with PR Syracuse. In fact, the vast majority of his shows were probably "filmed" on VHS. The filmstock, cameras and equipment involved in using actual film would have been far too expensive for recording every show as he did.

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RODSERLING said:

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No you don't.

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To believe that Prince never shoot his concerts of the era on film is utter nonsense.

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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Romeoblu said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off

IstenSzek said:

RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Nobody said so. But this video was obviously not filmed on film, but with video cameras.

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What a dush you are. You don't know what film is.

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No, you don't. Look at how the lights interact with the picture: typical of analog video, not of film.

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You also ignore that many shos from that era were shot on film( including the live at first avenue 83).

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Where's your proof? You don't have it because it isn't true.

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You also ignore completely that WB actually had the choice between releasing a HD transfer of a pristine picture VS releasing a concert with a crappy picture. .

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No they didn't because then they wouldn't have used this source.

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off

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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."

BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off

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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."

yeah, i hear you and i know that's why you try to correct them. it's just insane that people keep
bringing this up again and again. there should be a sticky or something at the top of the homepage.

Agreed.

So this is the last thing I'll say to ROD on the subject:

Just go watch the Sign "O" The Times movie, DVD or Blu-ray, doesn't matter...

Notice how U Got The Look looks like shit compared to the rest of the movie? It's because it was shot on video and the rest of the movie was shot on film. No matter what they do, they cannot match the quality for the two sources.

The concerts were shot on video, not film, so, same problem.

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BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

can we please just have a vhs/film/master/remaster pissing contest in another thread?

not that it matters much. it's just that it's starting to fucking piss me off

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Me as well, but apparently some people can't even admit simple truths. And next thing you know that nonsense gets repeated as "see how WB are deliverately watering down the worth of the estate."

What the fuck does "deliverately" mean? Is it that hard to use spell check?!?!?