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Reply #480 posted 09/12/19 2:28pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

IstenSzek said:

so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?

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I'm assuming the 23 unreleased vault tracks (Moonbeam Levels has been previously released) + the concert recording.


indeed, i forgot about "moonbeam levels" being officially released already.

after 20 years of living with it as an outtake, it slipped my mind smile


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Reply #481 posted 09/12/19 3:06pm

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IstenSzek said:



BartVanHemelen said:




IstenSzek said:


so how and where did they come up with "35 previously unreleased tracks from prince's legendary vault" ?




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I'm assuming the 23 unreleased vault tracks (Moonbeam Levels has been previously released) + the concert recording.




indeed, i forgot about "moonbeam levels" being officially released already.

after 20 years of living with it as an outtake, it slipped my mind smile




It’s listed as being 18 seconds longer than what was released on 4Ever, so a slightly extended version at least.
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Reply #482 posted 09/12/19 3:07pm

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Just got an email from the official Prince store. It says "10CD/1DVD", but when you click on the link the listing is the same as here, "5CD/1DVD".

Dammit! I got excited for a minute thinking there was an even bigger version. lol razz

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Reply #483 posted 09/12/19 4:08pm

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RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:

Ordered teh 5CD + DVD set from Amazon and expect the price to drop a bit nearing the release.



If the dvd is not remasterized

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Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.



Of course it s a word.
If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized.
The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source.
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I hope I m wrong
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Reply #484 posted 09/12/19 4:18pm

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Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

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Reply #485 posted 09/12/19 4:19pm

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jfenster said:

amazon says nov 15 as release ...$69 cds and $249 for vinyl

Bullmoose.com has $59.97 cds and $224.98 for vinyl. The best price I've seen so far. biggrin

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Reply #486 posted 09/12/19 4:21pm

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jaypotton said:

I wonder if this will sell better than Originals?

Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.


1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year.
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If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure.
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But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming.
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If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide.
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For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only.
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Reply #487 posted 09/12/19 4:27pm

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RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.
1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

1999 is certified 4x Platinum in USA alone... The total sales for 1999 are 7 million world wide.

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Reply #488 posted 09/12/19 4:27pm

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RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.
1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

Why do you keep stating your opinion as fact. It's so annoying. Your track record is shit anyway. Haven't you learnt your lesson?

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Reply #489 posted 09/12/19 4:34pm

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RODSERLING said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

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Reply #490 posted 09/12/19 4:36pm

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pricetag said:

RODSERLING said:

jaypotton said: 1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .

Why do you keep stating your opinion as fact. It's so annoying. Your track record is shit anyway. Haven't you learnt your lesson?

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Reply #491 posted 09/12/19 4:37pm

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pricetag said:



RODSERLING said:


BartVanHemelen said:


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Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.



Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

I love how the two people above, who both got it so wrong with this release, remain the most active in this thread. AND they're still speaking as if their opinions mean something. Learn some humility FFS. Or do you both have some frickin' personality defect? I know I've lost, though, because you both live for this shit.




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Reply #492 posted 09/12/19 4:41pm

feeluupp

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BartVanHemelen said:

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Dude, what are you even talking about? There isn't a first DVD release of this. This is by definition the first master of this video. Also, "remasterized" isn't a word.

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

It's not remastered, didn't you see what the Prince YoutTube channel posted today, the first video of 1999 Houston concert from the deluxe DVD.

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Reply #493 posted 09/12/19 4:45pm

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The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥
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Reply #494 posted 09/12/19 4:47pm

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I would say it is 14 unreleased songs and more than one was revamped into something that was released.


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Reply #495 posted 09/12/19 4:47pm

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Moonbeam said:

The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥

And it is not the one from City Lights! they did it right!

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Reply #496 posted 09/12/19 4:57pm

feeluupp

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The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥

The sound quality is excellent on that one.

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Reply #497 posted 09/12/19 5:56pm

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RODSERLING said:

Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong

The term you are referring to is "remastered", and I don't think it means what you think it means. remastering isn't some magical process that automatically makes any video source look amazing. no matter what processes are applied to improve it, a video can only look as good as whatever highest quality source looks like.

The Bad Wembley show WAS remastered. The VHS tape from which it was sourced was sent to the same lab that restored the NASA moon landing footage, but being as it was a VHS tape, it can only look so good.

Not being from a high quality source has nothing to do with whether or not something is remastered. You can't polish a turd if that's all there is to work with.

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Reply #498 posted 09/12/19 6:03pm

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djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.



I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.
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Reply #499 posted 09/12/19 6:08pm

jstar69

feeluupp said:



Moonbeam said:


The first bomb to drop in the form of the Detroit live “1999” is as seismic as I could have hoped. That chicken scratch! 🔥👾🔥


The sound quality is excellent on that one.



Sound is fabulous
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Reply #500 posted 09/12/19 6:18pm

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Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.

Superdeeduper deluxeremasterizedized Diamond Elite Plus!

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Reply #501 posted 09/12/19 6:53pm

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The first 2 songs I am going to listen to are....


If It’ll Make U Happy
How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

after that I may go on to "cd 4" and then back to "cd 3"

Frankly I am mostly intrested in the vault cds and the main album.

I will listen to the live CD some too and maybe once to the edits... and I will watch the DVD a few times....


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Reply #502 posted 09/12/19 7:05pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

The first 2 songs I am going to listen to are....


If It’ll Make U Happy
How Come U Don’t Call Me Anymore? (Take 2)

after that I may go on to "cd 4" and then back to "cd 3"

Frankly I am mostly intrested in the vault cds and the main album.

I will listen to the live CD some too and maybe once to the edits... and I will watch the DVD a few times....


duly noted

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Reply #503 posted 09/12/19 7:07pm

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Some photos from the upcoming release:

















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It looks fantastic! I don’t usually think about my Christmas list this early, but this is item number one on my Christmas list!
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Reply #504 posted 09/12/19 8:51pm

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Doozer said:

djThunderfunk said:

Nothing will be "remasterized", because "remasterized" is not even a word, much less a thing.

I’m just glad we are getting 1999 deluxized just four and a half months after Originals was releasized. I preorderized mine and can’t wait to peruse the rephotorized booklet and linerized notes.


falloff lol lol lol

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Reply #505 posted 09/12/19 9:00pm

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That live video! My god! The hunger!
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Reply #506 posted 09/12/19 10:09pm

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PurpleMouse88 said:



RODSERLING said:


Of course it s a word. If it's like The Bad Wembley concert of MJ or the Purple the rain live, this is not remasterized. The simple fact this is a dvd and not a blu ray is not a good sign, and probably the picture won't be remasterized from the original source. . I hope I m wrong


The term you are referring to is "remastered", and I don't think it means what you think it means. remastering isn't some magical process that automatically makes any video source look amazing. no matter what processes are applied to improve it, a video can only look as good as whatever highest quality source looks like.



The Bad Wembley show WAS remastered. The VHS tape from which it was sourced was sent to the same lab that restored the NASA moon landing footage, but being as it was a VHS tape, it can only look so good.



Not being from a high quality source has nothing to do with whether or not something is remastered. You can't polish a turd if that's all there is to work with.



No, you can't remaster something without the original master I m sorry.
So neither OR deluxe nor Bad or the moon landing were remastered.
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The tapes exist for Bad Wembley but they didn't locate it/didn't want to buy it.
By the way, it the 1999 live looks like a VHS, I doubt they sell it 60 bucks.
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The original footage of the moon landing was destroyed/lost around 2006 according to the NASA.
So once again the moon landing wasn't remastered but "improved" from a second copy.
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Reply #507 posted 09/12/19 10:18pm

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feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


jaypotton said:
I wonder if this will sell better than Originals? Also wonder how sales will compare to PR deluxe? Should give an indication for how large/small the market is for these type of releases.

1999, the album, surely already sold like 10.000 copies this year. . If they really sold it 60 dollars the deluxe edition, it won't sell much than Originals for sure. . But it will make publicity for the original album that will make better numbers on streaming. . If there is no documentary, no lead single with a good music video, no recertification, it Will sell like Originals, which sold 53.000 copies in the US in 3 months. You can double that number worldwide. . For the record, 1999 sold 80% of its worldwide sales in the US only. .


1999 is certified 4x Platinum in USA alone... The total sales for 1999 are 7 million world wide.



6 millions, including 4.6 m in the US
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Reply #508 posted 09/12/19 10:28pm

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Ouch.
The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure.
Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.
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Reply #509 posted 09/12/19 11:55pm

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Ouch.
The live of 1999 on YouTube really looks like a VHS...So it wasn't remastered for sure.
Better than nothing, but I doubt they charge so much for that crap.

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