When Prince went to the doctor's office on April 20th and the doctor went to PP on April 21st to give him the result from the day before, I was always curious what the results were going to say? Was there ever any word on that?

That information would be private under the HIPPA act and even if it were not I feel it is disrespectful to speculate. Would you want anyone to know if it was about you in similar circumstances?

[Edited 12/22/18 21:01pm]

macaylasdad said:

When Prince went to the doctor's office on April 20th and the doctor went to PP on April 21st to give him the result from the day before, I was always curious what the results were going to say? Was there ever any word on that?

It's no one's business.

Likely a tox screen; perhaps wanted to talk with him about various treatment options including

Buprenorphine which is what Dr. Kornfeld recommends. It is my understanding the Drs had talked.

he was going to tell him that prince.orgers are nosey

rogifan said:

Nun ya business. Why are people so nosy?

well...as if everything else released about the investigation is anyone's business... but hey...whatever..

Nonamesfan said:

That information would be private under the HIPPA act and even if it were not I feel it is disrespectful to speculate. Would you want anyone to know if it was about you in similar circumstances?

[Edited 12/22/18 21:01pm]

why would I care?? Just asking.... seems like everything else has been made public...so.....

MoBettaBliss said:

he was going to tell him that prince.orgers are nosey

nosey....no. curious....yes. There is a difference.

macaylasdad said:

MoBettaBliss said:

he was going to tell him that prince.orgers are nosey

nosey....no. curious....yes. There is a difference.

Frame it how ya want, but to want to delve into someone's medical shit is flat out nosey.

TrivialPursuit said:

macaylasdad said:

nosey....no. curious....yes. There is a difference.

Frame it how ya want, but to want to delve into someone's medical shit is flat out nosey.

Thanks Trivs... I have been so advised. Happy Holidays to you!

macaylasdad said:

MoBettaBliss said:

he was going to tell him that prince.orgers are nosey

nosey....no. curious....yes. There is a difference.

log off

I wondered about that too, why would a doc go to a patients home to give him results? but we have to remember that superstardom distorts everything so he was probably a little starstruck and decided to go the extra mile. Again, superstardom distorts everything. Last night I was watching a bunch of Elvis docus, two of his friends/employees have said he had bone cancer, one guy said he committed suicide which is unlikely because he had a heart attack, no one commits suicide by deciding to have a heart attack. Superstardom makes everything complicated.

rdhull said:

macaylasdad said:

nosey....no. curious....yes. There is a difference.

log off

I did...now I am back...and there you are! hehe

PeteSilas said:

I wondered about that too, why would a doc go to a patients home to give him results? but we have to remember that superstardom distorts everything so he was probably a little starstruck and decided to go the extra mile. Again, superstardom distorts everything. Last night I was watching a bunch of Elvis docus, two of his friends/employees have said he had bone cancer, one guy said he committed suicide which is unlikely because he had a heart attack, no one commits suicide by deciding to have a heart attack. Superstardom makes everything complicated.

Thanks Pete. I am just having some fun with some on this post. I understand HIPPA laws, privacy and the whole thing. In a world where government secrets are "leaked", one would of thought this would of got out. There were some very "private" photos and videos of Prince the day he died that were made public (which I thought should have stayed private), text messages, etc...

macaylasdad said:

PeteSilas said:

I wondered about that too, why would a doc go to a patients home to give him results? but we have to remember that superstardom distorts everything so he was probably a little starstruck and decided to go the extra mile. Again, superstardom distorts everything. Last night I was watching a bunch of Elvis docus, two of his friends/employees have said he had bone cancer, one guy said he committed suicide which is unlikely because he had a heart attack, no one commits suicide by deciding to have a heart attack. Superstardom makes everything complicated.

Thanks Pete. I am just having some fun with some on this post. I understand HIPPA laws, privacy and the whole thing. In a world where government secrets are "leaked", one would of thought this would of got out. There were some very "private" photos and videos of Prince the day he died that were made public (which I thought should have stayed private), text messages, etc...

don't worry about it, you're not posting on the org if someone isn't poking at you.

rogifan said:

Nun ya business. Why are people so nosy?

This is a Prince fan site and every now and then people ask questions.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PeteSilas said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Think someone was about to be found out...dr had the results from the tests run when Prince had no idea why he felt like he did.

Maybe

He likely knew why he felt like he did.

TrivialPursuit said:

It's no one's business.

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Why?

The country (yours?) is suffering from an opioid epidemic (a tsunami) and you can only think about privacy?

udo said:

TrivialPursuit said:

It's no one's business.

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Why?

The country (yours?) is suffering from an opioid epidemic (a tsunami) and you can only think about privacy?

Attacking a country's ills doesn't help the argument at hand. It's sort of a weak argument there as an excuse to know Prince's private business. Prince was a victim, like millions of others. Digging into a superstar's history isn't going to change that. Look at all we learned about Michael Jackson since 2009 - has anything changed other than a fan's morbid curiosity? Nope.

BUT - what will change that, since we're barking about epidemics and tsunamis (which is odd, but ok), is going after the big pharma industry. I've said on this site, and in my life, before that big pharma doesn't fix diseases, it creates a lifelong customer base. In the U.S., there is a drug ad on television every other time. In a typical daytime commercial break, which runs 4-5 minutes, at least half of that will probably be drug ads; every other ad is a drug for this or that or whatever. (Just as a sidenote: there is one ad for some face cream called Plexaderm that runs a full 5 minutes and takes the whole commercial break. I begin to wonder if the cat stepped on the remote and the program changed.) As the day runs into pre-prime time stuff (news, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, Entertainment Tonight etc type stuff), they seem to increase, probably because it's sometimes an older demographic that is watching those shows. We actually have an ongoing contest in the house to see which one of us (the roommate or I) can mute the TV faster when a drug ad comes on TV. We refuse to hear it.

Big pharma has half this country in a zombie-like state. It's created a world of liars and cheats because those addicted to drugs are typically lying about their addiction - either to themselves, those around them, or the half-dozen doctors they shop monthly. The way you know a drug addict is lying is when their mouth is moving. Big pharma is a multi-billion dollar industry. I blame them. It has nothing to do with helping people but rather just another avenue to make money from the already-overpriced insurance industry by way of their clients - everyday people. It's why the U.S. can't get universal health care because big pharma and insurance rule the roost.

So no, digging into Prince's personal medical history isn't going to solve anything. Yes, he deserves his privacy and his family has that final say-so until something changes. Besides, what are we going to learn anyway? We do know that he was seeing this doctor to start a detox and clean up his act. Someone may have talked to him about pain management and he saw options. Someone had to have gotten through to him on some level, or he probably wouldn't have been in that doctor's office at all. The thing Prince, and every other person addicted to opioids, forgets is that the more you use those things the more it agitates the pain. That, I have no doubt, is purposely and directly engineered by big pharma.

TrivialPursuit said:

udo said:

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Why?

The country (yours?) is suffering from an opioid epidemic (a tsunami) and you can only think about privacy?

Attacking a country's ills doesn't help the argument at hand. It's sort of a weak argument there as an excuse to know Prince's private business. Prince was a victim, like millions of others. Digging into a superstar's history isn't going to change that. Look at all we learned about Michael Jackson since 2009 - has anything changed other than a fan's morbid curiosity? Nope.

BUT - what will change that, since we're barking about epidemics and tsunamis (which is odd, but ok), is going after the big pharma industry. I've said on this site, and in my life, before that big pharma doesn't fix diseases, it creates a lifelong customer base. In the U.S., there is a drug ad on television every other time. In a typical daytime commercial break, which runs 4-5 minutes, at least half of that will probably be drug ads; every other ad is a drug for this or that or whatever. (Just as a sidenote: there is one ad for some face cream called Plexaderm that runs a full 5 minutes and takes the whole commercial break. I begin to wonder if the cat stepped on the remote and the program changed.) As the day runs into pre-prime time stuff (news, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, Entertainment Tonight etc type stuff), they seem to increase, probably because it's sometimes an older demographic that is watching those shows. We actually have an ongoing contest in the house to see which one of us (the roommate or I) can mute the TV faster when a drug ad comes on TV. We refuse to hear it.

Big pharma has half this country in a zombie-like state. It's created a world of liars and cheats because those addicted to drugs are typically lying about their addiction - either to themselves, those around them, or the half-dozen doctors they shop monthly. The way you know a drug addict is lying is when their mouth is moving. Big pharma is a multi-billion dollar industry. I blame them. It has nothing to do with helping people but rather just another avenue to make money from the already-overpriced insurance industry by way of their clients - everyday people. It's why the U.S. can't get universal health care because big pharma and insurance rule the roost.

So no, digging into Prince's personal medical history isn't going to solve anything. Yes, he deserves his privacy and his family has that final say-so until something changes. Besides, what are we going to learn anyway? We do know that he was seeing this doctor to start a detox and clean up his act. Someone may have talked to him about pain management and he saw options. Someone had to have gotten through to him on some level, or he probably wouldn't have been in that doctor's office at all. The thing Prince, and every other person addicted to opioids, forgets is that the more you use those things the more it agitates the pain. That, I have no doubt, is purposely and directly engineered by big pharma.

What you didn’t mention in this post is the doctors’ role, who are also responsible for this crisis. The doctors are just as culpable as the drug companies for this problem.

leec1 said:

What you didn’t mention in this post is the doctors’ role, who are also responsible for this crisis. The doctors are just as culpable as the drug companies for this problem.

I don't disagree. I would hope that a doctor, having taken an oath to help and not harm people, truly seek out better options for those that can have options beyond a lifetime prescription. Some may be getting a kickback from pushing drugs, some may just not care. Both of those types should have their licenses revoked permanently. Big Pharma is still the defacto despot manufacturer in the crisis, the doctors are just dealers.

The Dr was going to fax the reports to PP but Kirk told him they had no fax, the Dr. just said he would run them by then. The tests showed that P had mild anemia. The urine showed P had Hydrocodone and Hydromorphone in his urine. The tox screen was not back yet, turns out the coroners office took the blood and ran tests on them. No fentanyl was found in his blood from 4/20.

leec1 said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Attacking a country's ills doesn't help the argument at hand. It's sort of a weak argument there as an excuse to know Prince's private business. Prince was a victim, like millions of others. Digging into a superstar's history isn't going to change that. Look at all we learned about Michael Jackson since 2009 - has anything changed other than a fan's morbid curiosity? Nope.

BUT - what will change that, since we're barking about epidemics and tsunamis (which is odd, but ok), is going after the big pharma industry. I've said on this site, and in my life, before that big pharma doesn't fix diseases, it creates a lifelong customer base. In the U.S., there is a drug ad on television every other time. In a typical daytime commercial break, which runs 4-5 minutes, at least half of that will probably be drug ads; every other ad is a drug for this or that or whatever. (Just as a sidenote: there is one ad for some face cream called Plexaderm that runs a full 5 minutes and takes the whole commercial break. I begin to wonder if the cat stepped on the remote and the program changed.) As the day runs into pre-prime time stuff (news, Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, Entertainment Tonight etc type stuff), they seem to increase, probably because it's sometimes an older demographic that is watching those shows. We actually have an ongoing contest in the house to see which one of us (the roommate or I) can mute the TV faster when a drug ad comes on TV. We refuse to hear it.

Big pharma has half this country in a zombie-like state. It's created a world of liars and cheats because those addicted to drugs are typically lying about their addiction - either to themselves, those around them, or the half-dozen doctors they shop monthly. The way you know a drug addict is lying is when their mouth is moving. Big pharma is a multi-billion dollar industry. I blame them. It has nothing to do with helping people but rather just another avenue to make money from the already-overpriced insurance industry by way of their clients - everyday people. It's why the U.S. can't get universal health care because big pharma and insurance rule the roost.

So no, digging into Prince's personal medical history isn't going to solve anything. Yes, he deserves his privacy and his family has that final say-so until something changes. Besides, what are we going to learn anyway? We do know that he was seeing this doctor to start a detox and clean up his act. Someone may have talked to him about pain management and he saw options. Someone had to have gotten through to him on some level, or he probably wouldn't have been in that doctor's office at all. The thing Prince, and every other person addicted to opioids, forgets is that the more you use those things the more it agitates the pain. That, I have no doubt, is purposely and directly engineered by big pharma.

What you didn’t mention in this post is the doctors’ role, who are also responsible for this crisis. The doctors are just as culpable as the drug companies for this problem.

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And then there are the sad lot of people who manufacture bogus/pseudo pills "cut" for a profit, because the insurance/doctor system isn't designed for poor folks/people without access, which in turn allows those with access to simply abuse the bogus pills and cut out the middle man (doctors, insurance, etc.).

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https://www.vice.com/en_c...generation

TrivialPursuit said:

leec1 said:

What you didn’t mention in this post is the doctors’ role, who are also responsible for this crisis. The doctors are just as culpable as the drug companies for this problem.

I don't disagree. I would hope that a doctor, having taken an oath to help and not harm people, truly seek out better options for those that can have options beyond a lifetime prescription. Some may be getting a kickback from pushing drugs, some may just not care. Both of those types should have their licenses revoked permanently. Big Pharma is still the defacto despot manufacturer in the crisis, the doctors are just dealers.

I agree with both of you. Drs, over prescribed this stuff, and big Pharma pushed them to.

TrivialPursuit said:

leec1 said:

What you didn’t mention in this post is the doctors’ role, who are also responsible for this crisis. The doctors are just as culpable as the drug companies for this problem.

I don't disagree. I would hope that a doctor, having taken an oath to help and not harm people, truly seek out better options for those that can have options beyond a lifetime prescription. Some may be getting a kickback from pushing drugs, some may just not care. Both of those types should have their licenses revoked permanently. Big Pharma is still the defacto despot manufacturer in the crisis, the doctors are just dealers.

they are but people have to be smarter too. i never trusted doctors (or much anyone else) and it's worked for me. I have a friend who has a daughter hooked on the stuff and it's very painful for her but I do mention that the docs should never have been trusted in the first place, we're indians, we should never trust doctors and take everything they say with a healthy dollop of cynicism and skepticism.

TrivialPursuit said:

Attacking a country's ills doesn't help the argument at hand.

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Interpreting my remark as an `attack` shows your thought process.

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It's sort of a weak argument

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When we would have learned that the doctor had found out about Prince's drug abuse, would have confronted him and gotten the source of these pills he could have saved part of the tsunami's victims.

So yes the doctor plays a crucial role in idetifying the problem at hand and the immediate actions he might take.

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Prince's private business.

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Prince has no private business anymore but we still have the opioid problem.

Prince was a victim, like millions of others. Digging into a superstar's history isn't going to change that.

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If you cannot see beyond that then you must read what I just wrote; fighting the source of them pills will certainlky change things.

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Look at all we learned about Michael Jackson since 2009 - has anything changed other than a fan's morbid curiosity? Nope.

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Michael was treated by a yesman doctor with lax regard for his safety.

A different situation from a drug user that gets the tsuff via his own channels.

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BUT - what will change that, since we're barking about epidemics and tsunamis (which is odd, but ok), is going after the big pharma industry.

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Why is describing a big problem odd?

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I've said on this site, and in my life, before that big pharma doesn't fix diseases, it creates a lifelong customer base.

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That's a different problem from saying that prince has a right to privacy.

The stakes are too high.

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In the U.S., there is a drug ad on television every other time.

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That is simply a symptom of affordable airtime and money in the pharma system.

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We refuse to hear it.

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Simply refusing to watch TV is easier.

I rarely watch TV. Most of my content is ad free.

So much more efficient.

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So no, digging into Prince's personal medical history isn't going to solve anything.

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Au contraire.

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That, I have no doubt, is purposely and directly engineered by big pharma.

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When one grows up in a country where every pain, every ill needs a pill then of course things are different.

This pill culture needs to be fought.